skin heads are not nazis

[A Free Mind]

Skinheads are not nazis most National socialists hate skinheads they do not understand the real ideas behind national socialism which are not realy opposed to those of communism just nationalistic instead of international in spirit

[WUOrevolt]

S.H.A.R.P. are not nazis, but national socialists are.

[LSD]

Skinheads are not nazis

Some aren't, but most are.

The majority of the skinhead "movement" mirrors the brown-shirt auxilliary of the Nazi party.

They don't have to understand the "theory", they just have the grasp the fundamentals.

Hate Jews, hate blacks, hate gays.

That about cover it?


they do not understand the real ideas behind national socialism which are not realy opposed to those of communism just nationalistic instead of international in spirit

:lol:

You just can't let that one go, can you?

Really, it&#39;s so nice that you started posting again. I was beginning to miss your mindless apologizing for Hitler... <_<

[which doctor]

Skinheads can be nazis and such, but not all the time. Just look at RASH (Red and Anarchist Skinheads), they are not nazis.

[omegaflare]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2006, 08:42 PM

Skinheads are not nazis

Some aren&#39;t, but most are.

The majority of the skinhead "movement" mirrors the brown-shirt auxilliary of the Nazi party.

They don&#39;t have to understand the "theory", they just have the grasp the fundamentals.

Hate Jews, hate blacks, hate gays.

That about cover it?


they do not understand the real ideas behind national socialism which are not realy opposed to those of communism just nationalistic instead of international in spirit

:lol:

You just can&#39;t let that one go, can you?

Really, it&#39;s so nice that you started posting again. I was beginning to miss your mindless apologizing for Hitler... <_<
While it is true that there are a lot of Nazi Skins, that doesnt mean that MOST are. Is there any actual proof to this, or is this just a subjective answer? The Skinhead movement has its roots in the Working Class and the mixture of Jamaican and British people. It is NOT something that is racist or prejudiced. It just depends on where you are. Here in Dallas, I have yet to see a bonehead, yet I see plenty of RASH and SHARP skins. You should read "The Spirit of 69", that is, if you have any interest in Reggae music at all.

[Atlas Swallowed]

Most skinheads I have ever encountered are racist fucks. Don&#39;t know or really care if they are actual Nazis or not. The chickenshits won&#39;t fight unless they out number you three to one anyway.

[Comrada J]

I hate skinheads, both punk and WhitePowa...

http://www.tvhams.com/beta/w/barrvilleboys.jpg


Originally posted by teh wiki
Punk theoretically was against the commercial world, but right in the beginning was exploited and promoted through mainstream media. The left-wing created the image of the Punks as Leftist (while in the beginning had nothing to do with party politics) while the revival of the skinhead style was taken advantage of by the right wing. Nazi skinheads are often called "Boneheads" by anti-racist skinheads and punks.

[KC]

Skinheads aren&#39;t racist. Boneheads are.

[LA GUERRA OLVIDADA]

Most Skinheads I&#39;ve seen are into the "Heritage Not Hate" bullshit, and are usually libertarians.

[C_Rasmussen]

Originally posted by Atlas [email protected] 15 2006, 07:54 AM
Most skinheads I have ever encountered are racist fucks. Don&#39;t know or really care if they are actual Nazis or not. The chickenshits won&#39;t fight unless they out number you three to one anyway.
Or they&#39;ll come at you when you dont have a chance to defend yourself. Got attacked at my drummer&#39;s(RIP) house one time last year by his Nazi SKINHEAD stepson. I was drunk and didn&#39;t really have a chance to defend myself.

[KC]

Again, skinheads aren&#39;t racist. Boneheads are. Educate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinhead) yourself&#33;

[Atlas Swallowed]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2006, 04:44 AM
Again, skinheads aren&#39;t racist. Boneheads are. Educate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinhead) yourself&#33;
Who cares what some racist, white supremicist, jack asses call themselves. Oh the kinder gentler racisist, not buying it. Where I am from they are racisist maybe its different in other parts of the world, most of us are refering to the racisist variety. Don&#39;t get your panties in a bind.

[Comrada J]

I agree, most Skinheads I&#39;ve met are intolerant assholes.

[Alexknucklehead]

Some aren&#39;t, but most are.

The majority of the skinhead "movement" mirrors the brown-shirt auxilliary of the Nazi party.

They don&#39;t have to understand the "theory", they just have the grasp the fundamentals.

Hate Jews, hate blacks, hate gays.

That about cover it?



This is obviously complete and utter bollocks coming from a person who has absolutely no idea of the multi-cultural working-class movement that was skinhead.

Please learn something about the culture instead of making ridiculous ill-informed blanket statements, I suggest you read this for quite a fair perspective on the matter and a better understanding of the roots - http://www.libcom.org/history/articles/skinheads/

[C_Rasmussen]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 10:44 PM
Again, skinheads aren&#39;t racist. Boneheads are. Educate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinhead) yourself&#33;
Or how about the fuck not. Maybe its kinda hard to be tolerant of skinheads after being attacked by one and seeing on the tv many a programs about NAZI SKINHEADS. Get it? Do you understand what I am saying?

[Korol Aferist]

All of you are wrong...
If you met a skinhead on the street and he&#39;s racist then he&#39;s not a skinhead.
Skinheads are against racism... Skinheads based their ideologies in the Rude Boys of Jamaica and the U.K.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/29/Anarcho-skinheads.gif

I should know, I come from New York City, there are many skinheads that are anarchists and commies.

Here from Wikipedia:

" * Traditional (Trad), Trojan Skinheads (after the Trojan Records label), or Original Skins - Unlike the other categories, traditional skinheads do not regard attitudes toward racism as central to the subculture. Instead, they identify with the original skinhead movement ("The Spirit of 69") in music, style, culture and working class pride.

* SHARP (Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice), Aggressively anti-racist and political, generally left wing. The moniker "SHARP skinheads" is commonly used for all anti-racist skinheads, even if they aren&#39;t members of a SHARP organization. Anti-racist skins include RASH (Red and Anarchist Skinheads), Redskins, and Anarcho-Skinheads."

And yes, there are people that call themselves skinheads and are racist at the same time... They&#39;re not real skinheads, they&#39;re boneheads and dummies.

If you see a skinhead, tell him to remember The Spirit of &#39;69.

Read this, it&#39;s froma leftist site:

http://www.libcom.org/history/articles/skinheads/

[KC]

Who cares what some racist, white supremicist, jack asses call themselves. Oh the kinder gentler racisist, not buying it. Where I am from they are racisist maybe its different in other parts of the world, most of us are refering to the racisist variety. Don&#39;t get your panties in a bind.

Racist skinheads don&#39;t call themselves boneheads. That was the name given to racist skinheads by the real skinheads before the boneheads pretty much hijacked the movement. Skinheads are against racism, they aren&#39;t a "kinder gentler racist". If a skinhead is racist then he&#39;s a bonehead. It&#39;s really simple.



Or how about the fuck not. Maybe its kinda hard to be tolerant of skinheads after being attacked by one and seeing on the tv many a programs about NAZI SKINHEADS. Get it? Do you understand what I am saying?

Or how about you read the fucking link? Or is it too hard for you to learn what the fuck you&#39;re talking about before you post a reply? Do you think China is communist? There are tv programs about communist China&#33; Does that make them communist? Because China is communist, you as a communist are a horrible authoritarian prick&#33; Do you like being put in the same category? I know you don&#39;t. I know you don&#39;t think China is communist. So are you going to believe the media in everything they say? How is this situation different than that one? It&#39;s really simple.


Thank you Korol and Alex for posting more information&#33;

[C_Rasmussen]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2006, 01:44 PM


Who cares what some racist, white supremicist, jack asses call themselves. Oh the kinder gentler racisist, not buying it. Where I am from they are racisist maybe its different in other parts of the world, most of us are refering to the racisist variety. Don&#39;t get your panties in a bind.

Racist skinheads don&#39;t call themselves boneheads. That was the name given to racist skinheads by the real skinheads before the boneheads pretty much hijacked the movement. Skinheads are against racism, they aren&#39;t a "kinder gentler racist". If a skinhead is racist then he&#39;s a bonehead. It&#39;s really simple.



Or how about the fuck not. Maybe its kinda hard to be tolerant of skinheads after being attacked by one and seeing on the tv many a programs about NAZI SKINHEADS. Get it? Do you understand what I am saying?

Or how about you read the fucking link? Or is it too hard for you to learn what the fuck you&#39;re talking about before you post a reply? Do you think China is communist? There are tv programs about communist China&#33; Does that make them communist? Because China is communist, you as a communist are a horrible authoritarian prick&#33; Do you like being put in the same category? I know you don&#39;t. I know you don&#39;t think China is communist. So are you going to believe the media in everything they say? How is this situation different than that one? It&#39;s really simple.


Thank you Korol and Alex for posting more information&#33;
:lol: What the fuck are you trying to say in that? I couldn&#39;t help but laugh when you called me an authoritarian prick. Just because I dont fucking think like you do doesn&#39;t make me authoritarian. Yes I may be a prick but I do believe in freedom for all. Ever think that PERSONAL EXPERIENCE has something to do with the way a person thinks about something/someone? Think about that one for a moment before you spout off some shit.

[dannie]

rasmussen,

i believe what lazar was trying to do is make a comparison about how bias the media is and how you shouldnt base your views on a group of people, or atleast a certain part of it from what the media tells.
but i guess you just love to twist others words around to prove yourself right

[C_Rasmussen]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2006, 02:07 PM
rasmussen,

i believe what lazar was trying to do is make a comparison about how bias the media is and how you shouldnt base your views on a group from what the media tells.
but i guess you just love to twist others words around to prove yourself right
Oh ok. I apologize seeing as I read it wrong.

[Alexknucklehead]

Originally posted by C_Rasmussen+Jan 16 2006, 07:56 PM--> (C_Rasmussen @ Jan 16 2006, 07:56 PM)
[email protected] 16 2006, 01:44 PM


Who cares what some racist, white supremicist, jack asses call themselves. Oh the kinder gentler racisist, not buying it. Where I am from they are racisist maybe its different in other parts of the world, most of us are refering to the racisist variety. Don&#39;t get your panties in a bind.

Racist skinheads don&#39;t call themselves boneheads. That was the name given to racist skinheads by the real skinheads before the boneheads pretty much hijacked the movement. Skinheads are against racism, they aren&#39;t a "kinder gentler racist". If a skinhead is racist then he&#39;s a bonehead. It&#39;s really simple.



Or how about the fuck not. Maybe its kinda hard to be tolerant of skinheads after being attacked by one and seeing on the tv many a programs about NAZI SKINHEADS. Get it? Do you understand what I am saying?

Or how about you read the fucking link? Or is it too hard for you to learn what the fuck you&#39;re talking about before you post a reply? Do you think China is communist? There are tv programs about communist China&#33; Does that make them communist? Because China is communist, you as a communist are a horrible authoritarian prick&#33; Do you like being put in the same category? I know you don&#39;t. I know you don&#39;t think China is communist. So are you going to believe the media in everything they say? How is this situation different than that one? It&#39;s really simple.


Thank you Korol and Alex for posting more information&#33;
:lol: What the fuck are you trying to say in that? I couldn&#39;t help but laugh when you called me an authoritarian prick. Just because I dont fucking think like you do doesn&#39;t make me authoritarian. Yes I may be a prick but I do believe in freedom for all. Ever think that PERSONAL EXPERIENCE has something to do with the way a person thinks about something/someone? Think about that one for a moment before you spout off some shit. [/b]
Just cos you got attacked by a bald geezer who claimed to be a skinhead don&#39;t put all skinheads in the racist bucket you fool. That has about the same logic as me claiming all pakistanis are racist because a bunch of &#39;em beat the shit out of me after racially abusing me :rolleyes:

[Atlas Swallowed]

Never met any of the skinheads you are refering to. It would be a nice change from the jerks with the nazi tatoos and white power slogans I am accustomed to. Being up here in the sticks it hard to find people who are even mildly liberal. It is amazing how people who have never or rarely met people of other races fear and despise other races.

[Snitza]

In reality, most boneheads don&#39;t know anything about skinhead culture. A lot of them don&#39;t even listen to the staples of the culture: oi&#33; ska and reggae. In fact, I&#39;ve come to notice a large amount of them are simply racists who shave their heads and like to wear boots. And they call themselves "skinheads" and maybe get some "skinhead" tattoos, or "Nordic" tattoos with mystical gods and shit.

I myself am a proud redskin, matter of fact. Boneheads are pretty much hated by everyone, punks and traditional skins alike. Tradskins seem to be sick of the culture being falsely identified with racism.

[Hegemonicretribution]

Originally posted by C_Rasmussen+Jan 16 2006, 05:13 PM--> (C_Rasmussen @ Jan 16 2006, 05:13 PM)
[email protected] 15 2006, 10:44 PM
Again, skinheads aren&#39;t racist. Boneheads are. Educate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinhead) yourself&#33;
Or how about the fuck not. Maybe its kinda hard to be tolerant of skinheads after being attacked by one and seeing on the tv many a programs about NAZI SKINHEADS. Get it? Do you understand what I am saying? [/b]
I think Alexknucklehead got it. Personally, speaking from the view of someone that has a shaved head, I find this quite insulting. I would like to see how you seperate that view from rascist/discriminatory views in general.

The aim isn&#39;t to change the aesthetics of people, but to rid us of the negative connotations associated with them. I would be more interested in removing rascists, than stopping people from shaving their heads, but if you can&#39;t view personal experience in its larger context, or worse, make judgements without doing so, then I would severely question your logic or politics (or both).

I don&#39;t mean to be inscensitive, however this is something of a sticking point. Could you clarify that please?

[Loknar]

As far as I&#39;m concerned, all of thm deserve an ass whoopin....

[Delirium]

Where i come from the word skinhead is synonomous with neonazi/racist punk. I was unaware of the difference until now.

[Loknar]

The difference between the two is similar to the difference between Aryan brothehood and the KKK.

[KC]

The difference between the two is similar to the difference between Aryan brothehood and the KKK.

The difference between the two is similar to the difference between anti-racists and racists.

[Hegemonicretribution]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2006, 01:32 AM
The difference between the two is similar to the difference between Aryan brothehood and the KKK.
A great example of dogmatically holding a view above logic or reason. Are you hardline religous :lol: ?

You have seen your view conflicted with empirical evidence which seeks to falsify it, but still maintain your view. Why is this, is it that the absoluteness of your belief is superior to any conception of reality? Or are you viewing the world through a very strange lens?

I am a skinhead, I am against all forms of discrimination, and have nothing in common with any movement that you have suggested. This line of thought can be used to belief whatever you want. You are showing preferences devoid of any coherent thought process, so it is likely just a rehash of oppinions that you have been socially indoctrinated with, or found amusing.