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13th January 2006, 19:50
The future of the Czech Communist Youth Union (KSM) is looking grim this New Year. The youth and student wing of the Czech Republic's third biggest party is under threat from the country's Home Office, which will ban the organisation unless it relinquishes its commitment to revolutionary Marxism.

The KSM was founded in the early 1990s after the collapse of the communist system in what was then Czechoslovakia. The organisation's parent party the Communist Party of Bohemia and Moravia (KSCM) is the successor of the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia which ruled the country as a one party state from 1948 until the peaceful Velvet Revolution of 1989. Since the restoration of democracy the KSCM has enjoyed repeated electoral success. In 2002 elections for the Chamber of Deputies, the country's lower legislative house, saw the party receive 20% of the vote and become the third largest parliamentary group. The more recent European elections in 2004 saw the party making further gains, becoming the second placed party by taking six seats.

The party's success is attributed to continuing economic problems in the country, particularly the high rate of unemployment which in some areas rises to 20% of the workforce. Such a situation was unheard of under the communist regime.


However, there is still a bitter legacy from the years of communist party rule. Dissidents, such as the country's first post-communist president Vaclav Havel, faced persecution at the hands of the communist run state. In addition the country's other main political parties the Social Democratic Party, Christian Democratic Party and the Liberals are frustrated by the KSCM's recent electoral success which has forced the creation of an uneasy coalition government. Therefore these parties have every reason to attempt the weaken the strength of the communists.

The Czech Home Office apparently hopes to place the KSM on the same level as fascist groups, which are banned in the Czech Republic. The deadline for the KSM to abandon its ideological attachment to revolution was December 31st 2005. There have been no signs that either the KSM or the Home Office have backed down. The struggle to ban the KSM is likely to be difficult; the KSCM alone has 120,000 members and many more supporters. The political struggle over the legality of Czech communism will prove to be interesting, the Council of Europe is currently discussing a document condemning communist ''crimes'' in the former Soviet Bloc and there have been calls in the European Parliament for a Europe wide ban on the Nazi swastika and the communist hammer and sickle.

Over 150 years ago Karl Marx wrote, "There is a spectre haunting Europe, the spectre of communism." His words ring as true today as they did then.

Wanted Man
13th January 2006, 19:55
I've been to Czechia last summer, it's a pretty nice place, although there seem to be billboards everywhere. Anyway, the KSCM is doing really well, good luck to you. For a related issue: www.no2anticommunism.org

Enragé
13th January 2006, 23:40
Czechia?

lol

you really cant tell you're dutch ya know :P


hmm in regard to the czech communists; whats their actual present day opinion of the 41 yrs they were the surpreme rulers?

Sentinel
14th January 2006, 00:51
This shows us the true nature of bourgeois elections: they are just for show. :angry:
Whenever outspoken revolutionary marxists start getting a dangerously large percentage of the vote, the cappies take off the silk gloves.
Our stance is accepted in these "democracies" only until we become a force to be reckoned with . I believe the only way to get to power through elections is appearing as a petty bourgeois reformist to begin with. Like Chavez did in Venezuela..
Now I know that many of you guys think that Chavez is a petty-bourgeois reformist :P
I personally believe he will get more outspokenly revolutionary with time and has yet to show his true revolutionary nature. It is all part of a clever plan :)

Comrades in Czech Republic: Stay in the good mood! Show them cappies!
You are not completely alone, the thoughts of revolutionaries worldwide are with you!

Wanted Man
14th January 2006, 09:52
Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2006, 11:51 PM
Czechia?

lol

you really cant tell you're dutch ya know :P
What are you talking about?


The Czech Ministry of Foreign Affairs in 1993 announced that the name Czechia is to be used in all situations other than formal official documents and the full names of government institutions [1], [2], but this has not caught on in English usage. Its Czech equivalent Česko faced strong opposition of the Czech people as well, but now it seems to be quite settled down in the language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czech_republic

It has caught on with me.


hmm in regard to the czech communists; whats their actual present day opinion of the 41 yrs they were the surpreme rulers?
As far as I know, not many of the former Communist Party of Czechoslovakia are members of KSCM.

ComradeOm
14th January 2006, 12:25
Is there any way that we can help out?

commiecrusader
14th January 2006, 12:43
We should try and help out if we can.

However, if we can't, then maybe this will be the spark that ignites the flame of revolution. This is going to be an interesting situation.

Enragé
14th January 2006, 13:31
Originally posted by Matthijs+Jan 14 2006, 10:03 AM--> (Matthijs @ Jan 14 2006, 10:03 AM)
[email protected] 13 2006, 11:51 PM
Czechia?

lol

you really cant tell you're dutch ya know :P
What are you talking about?


The Czech Ministry of Foreign Affairs in 1993 announced that the name Czechia is to be used in all situations other than formal official documents and the full names of government institutions [1], [2], but this has not caught on in English usage. Its Czech equivalent Česko faced strong opposition of the Czech people as well, but now it seems to be quite settled down in the language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czech_republic

It has caught on with me.

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:huh: :o :huh: <_< still sounds dumb :huh: :blink:

bolshevik butcher
14th January 2006, 17:01
This shows the true nature of the beugoirse freedom of speach retoric. You have freedom of speech until you actaully present a threat to them, then its right in with farcial draconian measures.

ComradeOm
14th January 2006, 17:49
Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2006, 12:54 PM
However, if we can&#39;t, then maybe this will be the spark that ignites the flame of revolution. This is going to be an interesting situation.
I very much doubt whether the conditions for revolution are nearly ready in Prague.

But it will be interesting all the same.

More Fire for the People
14th January 2006, 19:08
This may sound somehow “dumb” coming from an American who is thousands of miles away but what needs to be done is a mass protest before the law goes into effect. If the law goes into effect the protest need to continue and maybe even turn into an organized riot.

Wanted Man
14th January 2006, 22:27
Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2006, 12:41 PM
Is there any way that we can help out?
Well, unless you can go to Czechia soon, I don&#39;t think so. :(


This may sound somehow “dumb” coming from an American who is thousands of miles away but what needs to be done is a mass protest before the law goes into effect. If the law goes into effect the protest need to continue and maybe even turn into an organized riot.
It seems many parties don&#39;t quite dare to do that even when they&#39;re being repressed and have a large popular support. :(

WIZO
14th January 2006, 22:37
Originally posted by Red [email protected] 13 2006, 08:06 PM
The future of the Czech Communist Youth Union (KSM) is looking grim this New Year. The youth and student wing of the Czech Republic&#39;s third biggest party is under threat from the country&#39;s Home Office, which will ban the organisation unless it relinquishes its commitment to revolutionary Marxism.

The KSM was founded in the early 1990s after the collapse of the communist system in what was then Czechoslovakia. The organisation&#39;s parent party the Communist Party of Bohemia and Moravia (KSCM) is the successor of the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia which ruled the country as a one party state from 1948 until the peaceful Velvet Revolution of 1989. Since the restoration of democracy the KSCM has enjoyed repeated electoral success. In 2002 elections for the Chamber of Deputies, the country&#39;s lower legislative house, saw the party receive 20% of the vote and become the third largest parliamentary group. The more recent European elections in 2004 saw the party making further gains, becoming the second placed party by taking six seats.

The party&#39;s success is attributed to continuing economic problems in the country, particularly the high rate of unemployment which in some areas rises to 20% of the workforce. Such a situation was unheard of under the communist regime.


However, there is still a bitter legacy from the years of communist party rule. Dissidents, such as the country&#39;s first post-communist president Vaclav Havel, faced persecution at the hands of the communist run state. In addition the country&#39;s other main political parties the Social Democratic Party, Christian Democratic Party and the Liberals are frustrated by the KSCM&#39;s recent electoral success which has forced the creation of an uneasy coalition government. Therefore these parties have every reason to attempt the weaken the strength of the communists.

The Czech Home Office apparently hopes to place the KSM on the same level as fascist groups, which are banned in the Czech Republic. The deadline for the KSM to abandon its ideological attachment to revolution was December 31st 2005. There have been no signs that either the KSM or the Home Office have backed down. The struggle to ban the KSM is likely to be difficult; the KSCM alone has 120,000 members and many more supporters. The political struggle over the legality of Czech communism will prove to be interesting, the Council of Europe is currently discussing a document condemning communist &#39;&#39;crimes&#39;&#39; in the former Soviet Bloc and there have been calls in the European Parliament for a Europe wide ban on the Nazi swastika and the communist hammer and sickle.

Over 150 years ago Karl Marx wrote, "There is a spectre haunting Europe, the spectre of communism." His words ring as true today as they did then.
Source?

Janus
14th January 2006, 22:40
The Czech Republic seems to be the only former Warsaw Pact nation that is doing this. I suppose that the reason for this oppression is the bitterness left by the Prague Spring incident. Besides that incident, the Czechs have been able to stay pretty peaceful (Velvet Revolution and Velvet Divorce) so I hope there won&#39;t be a crackdown of any kind. I don&#39;t understand how the government could even compare communists with fascists.

Janus
14th January 2006, 22:42
The Czech Republic seems to be the only former Warsaw Pact nation that is doing this. I suppose that the reason for this oppression is the bitterness left by the Prague Spring incident. Besides that incident, the Czechs have been able to stay pretty peaceful (Velvet Revolution and Velvet Divorce) so I hope there won&#39;t be a crackdown of any kind. I don&#39;t understand how the government could even compare communists with fascists.

ComradeOm
14th January 2006, 23:11
Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 14 2006, 10:56 PM
The Czech Republic seems to be the only former Warsaw Pact nation that is doing this. I suppose that the reason for this oppression is the bitterness left by the Prague Spring incident. Besides that incident, the Czechs have been able to stay pretty peaceful (Velvet Revolution and Velvet Divorce) so I hope there won&#39;t be a crackdown of any kind. I don&#39;t understand how the government could even compare communists with fascists.
I believe, though I&#39;m by no means sure, that the hammer and sickle are already banned in Hungary and possibly the Baltic states. Can anyone confirm?