Let me introduce me

[death88junkie]

greetings, i'm 17yrs old and from Kuwait... kinda unheard of, kinda pro-america.. kuwait is not the best country i should say. i hate patriotism and think its the exploitation of the people... people should wake up and see that... we need a socialist world - united.

i got into politics after realizing how the world is corrupt and there are poor people all over, and the rich are exploiting them heartlessly. i am anti-american in terms of politics and think that america should be a communist country, and through that people will follow... since everyone seems blinded by them.

i used to be a capitalist but after realizing that it's why the world is so $(*#ed up, i turned to the other side.. leftism.. eventho i never knew what left and right was all about. well, i was an anarchist first, then realised tht socialism thru communism is really the best thing that could ever happen! personally, i wanna be the next Guevara.. a communist revolutionary, seeking to change the world.

i like listening to music, especially rock. Rage Against The Machine is my favourite band as far as lyrics and meanings go.. i also like lots of other political and non-political bands. i write my own lyrics, and recently been writing some political and social stuff.

if u wanna get to know me better, just send me a personal message :-)

[Eoin Dubh]

Hi.
What does the 88 in your moniker signify?

[death88junkie]

hey, ever since i started havin 88's on my nicknames.. which's since i ever used the internet.. no1 ever asked that, hehe.. well it signify's my year of birth... 1988.

[Intifada]

Nazis use the number 88 to represent "Heil Hitler".

H is the the 8th letter of the alphabet.

Two H's equals 88.

[Zero]

Ouch, take it out dude.

[death88junkie]

O, well i never knew tht.. all my nicknames n emails n stuff have 88 in them... well, im gonn continue using that name until i change my email, cuz theres no point.. plus, its all about the intention.. i do hate hitler.
i'll change the name wen i change my email, hopefully.. cuz the email im using now alredy has this account, and i cant make two accounts on one email..
o well
i'll just keep my signature as "H4H" which basically means: Hell for Hitler.

[scrooge smith]

hi this is scrooge smith i hate nazis

[Tekun]

Welcome to RevLeft :D
Are u living in Kuwait?

BTW bro, many of us (me included) look up to comrade Che
But, lets refrain from being "the next Che Guevara" and try to accept being the next u

[death88junkie]

Yes i am living in Kuwait..
and when i said the "next Che", i meant that i wanna revolutionize the world... of course i'm me, cuz that's who i am..!! me being the next che means that i wanna commit my life towards changing the world - into a more socialist one.

[expatriot]

Hey Comrade-welcome to the forum. Looking forward to hearing your views. What are your thoughts on the socialist regime of Iraq invading Kuwait in 1990? Do you think a socialist revolution could ever take place in Kuwait? How about women's right?

Appreciate your comments.

[death88junkie]

Hey, umm... i dont think the invasion of iraq was socialist, since in my point of view Saddam was only using socialism to appeal to the masses. I'm not sure about the ideologies of his party, and because i am kuwaiti and he invaded my country, i have only one side of the image.. so please enlighten me of the other side.. and what do u personall think of him?!
and there are women rights in kuwait, the parliament agreed on it last year and they will be voting and electing in the next elections...
but socialism, i dont think so... the kuwaiti government doesnt really have an ideology, but is basically following the rules of islam. it has some aspects of capitalism but also a very small aspect of communism - such as free education.. but there is also private education, which i am in. and i dont think free education is the right thing right now, since they will promote capitalism more than other views... the people also dont know much about the government, and eventho it is quite corrupt, its not as corrupt as usa and such... and well im not willing to have a socialist revolution in kuwait as much as i am in countries like the usa, since evry1 follows the usa and what it does, and many americans dont like the government but dont take action, for reasons that i dunno and will never know...

[death88junkie]

i did a test on political ideologies, and that's what i got...

You are a

Social Liberal
(61% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(15% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist

...Yay!!! :D

[expatriot]

Hello my Kuwaiti friend. I also think that Saddam claimed to be a socialist but only for the good of his own party. He lived in lavish palaces while his people starved. I think if we were ever going to get involved in Iraq it should have happened during the Gulf War when the support of the world would have been against Saddam and only for the reasons of liberation of the Iraqi people from a corrupt dictator. Not to set up a puppet government for U.S. interests which is Oil.

I am afraid that invading Iraq has been a huge mistake that many will pay for. Everyone in America knows that Saddam had absolutely nothing to do with what happened on Sept. 11th. I live in NY and knew people that were killed on that day. The mood of the country became almost paranoid after those attacks and I think that the only reason our government allowed Pres. Bush to take action in Iraq was due to the atmosphere of a looming terrorist attack. Now most people in America do not support the war and want us out of there.

I believe that Americans still feel they can change things through voting. The problem I think is that most Americans are brainwashed, too lazy to vote and too passive to get involved in politics. A lot of young people in this country (I am fifty) do not vote and do not even know who the Secretary of State is- barely know who the Vice President is and do not understand how our government works. We are supposed to be a free country yet there are only 2 political parties that retain any power in government and they are both corrupt and strickly capitalist.

I think if a draft is reinstated then young people will be forced to get involved, as that is what happened during the Vietnam War. Then people took to the streets and demanded change. Of course, I can't speak for anyone but myself but this is my impression of why nothing seems to be changing here.

America could be such a good example of democracy and fairness. Unfortunately, this country is overrun by corporations and special interests of the few. I was hoping that New Orleans would be a wake up call for change but that story simply disappeared from the headlines. Those people seem to have no voice at all.

I think things will change in a couple of years though. I think something drastic is going to happen here. Either an ecological disaster or a nuclear attack from within.

It's good to hear that women in Kuwait have more rights. Was that due to any outside political pressure or just social changes that slowly evolve?

[death88junkie]

Yeh, i thought saddam was a dictator too and only used the term "socialism" for the sake of his party.. and i support u on the point u made about him being in palaces and stuff... and initially i was for the war against saddam, but then i realized that the americans r only doing it for oil and nothing else. and i think that now, as the iraqi constitution has been written, i think that the americans have to leave and leave the iraqi's alone... i mean, a civil war is inevitable and is part of gaining liberty after a very VERY supressed regime.
and about america, brainwashing.. that's completely true, and i think that the government has taken control of the people and no one knows about politics and/or don't care. and i too thought that Katrina would wake ppl up, but as u knw, the news agencies keep control of such stuff... i'm not very knowledged about how the USA is run, but i know that...
and about it being a "free country" i think that's just part of the brainwashing, whether it was deliberate or not, i dunno.. but yeh, all my life i thought theres freedom of speech and stuff like that, but not until yesterday, or even today.. LITERALLY did i realize that they banned communism and such left-winged thoughts. they also seem to be labelling evry communist country in the world a "terrorist" and banning it from weapons. i havent read about any communist country, whether its Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea.... but i am sure that by the fact they are communist, they are much better than the USA in their policies...

and about Kuwait's rights.. no they were just changes in society with no intervention. i am very happy actually, since i always wanted women to have equal rights.. but it's being weird, cuz health used to be free for all.. but now non-kuwaitis have to pay a small amount of money, equivelant to $6, i dunno why...

[VictoryOverWar]

welcome to the board. I have already seen you being active which is good to see.

Expatriot i think that people believe in voting still but they dont vote not because of lazyness but because there is no point. The majority did not vote for President Bush yet he still sits in office. Futhermore while he sits in office Americans dont question it and simply continue to grab there ankles. The electorial college does not work the system in flawed. Special intrest have also completely taken over our pathedic 2 party system. I will tell you right now as an American i dont vote simply because regardless of what i do or who i vote for it truely will not make a difference. Revolution is the only way to bring about change im afraid

[expatriot]

To: Victory Over War,

Actually voting does make a difference- look at Florida in '2000. I think Bush won by 500 votes so it's important to vote. I felt like that for a long time- that my vote doesn't count but if enough people got involved-even in local politics the tide could turn (although that's probably wishful thinking).

Do you think a revolution could take place in America?

[death88junkie]

U both got points..
i think that voting DOES make a difference if evry1 thinks about it and actually kares.. but not everyone does. but u should vote even if it doesnt make much of a difference.
imagine if 1million people like u voted.. it WOULD make a difference!!

and yeh, i think that a revolution would work in the USA, why.. will because many people are socialists but they never make an appearance mainistream. maybe bcuz its suppressed or becuz they dont wanna try and dont think it'll succeed. i think tht the US is one of the greatest places so have a socialist revolution. :ph34r: lol
Long Live Socialist Revolutions!

[Sabocat]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2006, 08:56 PM
To: Victory Over War,

Actually voting does make a difference- look at Florida in '2000. I think Bush won by 500 votes so it's important to vote. I felt like that for a long time- that my vote doesn't count but if enough people got involved-even in local politics the tide could turn (although that's probably wishful thinking).

Do you think a revolution could take place in America?
Actually he didn't win the popular vote with a plurality. They stopped the recount when the Supreme Court handed the election to Bush. There were also thousands of people wrongfully kept off the voting rolls by using a list of "criminals" that weren't allowed to vote. So the vote was totally subverted.

But just suppose for a second you were correct, that voting did make a difference and Bush had lost the election to Gore or Kerry for that matter. Then what?

Gore was VP for Clinton who gutted Welfare, bombed Kosovo and Iraq, destroyed Iraq and killed an estimated 1.5 million children with disease from the imposition of cruel sanctions. Do you ever remember hearing Gore protest these crimes or disavow himself from the Clinton presidency? Kerry pledged to send MORE troops into Iraq (on false pretenses I might add) to "win" the war on terrorism.

In what way would the election of either of these reactionaries possibly be construed as beneficial in any way to the working class?


expatriot said:


Hello my Kuwaiti friend. I also think that Saddam claimed to be a socialist but only for the good of his own party. He lived in lavish palaces while his people starved. I think if we were ever going to get involved in Iraq it should have happened during the Gulf War when the support of the world would have been against Saddam and only for the reasons of liberation of the Iraqi people from a corrupt dictator. Not to set up a puppet government for U.S. interests which is Oil.

While I'm not defending the likes of Saddam, I think this is a good opportunity to address some of your statement.

Iraq was one of the only, if not the only secular nation in the Middle East. Education was provided to women, they weren't required to cover their entire bodies, women were provided maternity leave, medical care was free and living conditions were generally pretty decent. The starvation of the Iraqi's really only happened after the UN/US sanctions.

Your support of the first Gulf War is also a bit misguided. We gave Saddam the green light to invade Kuwait when he was told that we had no interest in his conflict with Kuwait, who by the way was driving the price of oil down in order to bankrupt the Iraqi economy which was weak from the years of war with Iran. The other charge that Iraq made was that Kuwait was slant drilling into the Iraqi oil fields and basically stealing Iraqi oil. The US intervention into the Iraq/Kuwait conflict was nothing more than a desire to get ahold of the Iraqi oil fields and strategic location in the region. Unfortunately for Hussein, he played right into the U.S' hands.

[death88junkie]

Iraq was one of the only, if not the only secular nation in the Middle East. Education was provided to women, they weren't required to cover their entire bodies, women were provided maternity leave, medical care was free and living conditions were generally pretty decent.

Kuwait has all those... not just iraq.


Kuwait was slant drilling into the Iraqi oil fields

i've never heard that before, but ive heard tht kuwait gave land to iraq.. so maybe u thought that it was iraqi land from the first place.. plz justify ur statement with a reliable source just to prove it :)

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Welcome, comrade :)

If you want, you can change your name here (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=35672&st=75&#entry1292003502)
(to get the 88 out of your name) ;)

On Saddam: Somebody putting his own desire for luxury above the welfare of somebody else can never be considered socialist !

Is there a communist party in Kuwait?
And, although I suspect not, are you a muslim?



"When you have given everything, you have everything to gain."

:hammer:

[Sabocat]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2006, 12:06 PM

Iraq was one of the only, if not the only secular nation in the Middle East. Education was provided to women, they weren't required to cover their entire bodies, women were provided maternity leave, medical care was free and living conditions were generally pretty decent.

Kuwait has all those... not just iraq.


Kuwait was slant drilling into the Iraqi oil fields

i've never heard that before, but ive heard tht kuwait gave land to iraq.. so maybe u thought that it was iraqi land from the first place.. plz justify ur statement with a reliable source just to prove it :)


After being allied with Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War until its end in 1988 (largely due to the desire for Iraqi protection from Shiite Iran), Kuwait was invaded and annexed by Iraq (under Saddam Hussein) on August 2, 1990. Hussein's primary justifications included a charge that Kuwaiti territory was in fact an Iraqi province, and that annexation was retaliation for "economic warfare" Kuwait had allegedly waged through slant drilling into oil supplies that were in disputed territories. The monarchy was deposed after annexation, and a new Kuwaiti governor was installed by Saddam Hussein.

Prior to 2005, only 15% of the Kuwaiti citizen population was allowed to vote, with all women, "recently naturalised" citizens (less than 30 years of citizenship), and members of the armed forces excluded. On May 16, 2005, Parliament permitted women's suffrage by a 35-23 vote, subject to Islamic law and effective for the 2007 Parliamentary Election.


Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuwait#History)


I've never heard that Kuwait gave land to Iraq. Could you provide sources for that?

[expatriot]

To Disgustipated:

I don't think that Gore would have invaded Iraq. Whether the workers of this country would have benefited at all under a Gore presidency no one can know, however I don't think we would be in this big a mess. It's the lesser of the two evils.

I didn't vote for most of my adult life so I can relate to what you are saying. Now I see it differently and although voting may seem like a waste of time and that nothing really changes-until we have a revolution in this country it's the only voice we have, however small to possibly change things from within.

As far as conditions in Iraq prior to the US sanctions- Iraq was broke after the war with Iran and invaded Kuwait to plunder their resources. And don't forget how they set fire to the oil fields before leaving causing catastrophic pollution. You make it sound like Saddam was some kind of socialist hero.

The slant drilling was a charge by Saddam Hussein- I can't find any proof of that anywhere.

[death88junkie]

Iraq challenged this declaration, claiming that Kuwait was part of its territory. It threatened to invade Kuwait, but was deterred by the British, who flew in troops.

that does not state that kuwait took territory from iraq. it only states that iraq CLAIMED that! there is no proof! i know that iraq claimed kuwait took iraqi land, but there is no proof that its true, is there?!

[Sabocat]

The slant drilling was a charge by Saddam Hussein- I can't find any proof of that anywhere.

I would say it there is more evidence that isn't refuted that they were slant drilling than evidence showing they weren't.


On July 16, a meeting of OPEC ("Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries") in Geneva ended with Iraq once more threatening military force against Kuwait for exceeding production quotas and for violating the agreement on drilling rights in the Rumaila oil field, a banana shaped area spanning both sides of the common border. Iraq charged Kuwait with cheating: taking more than its fair share of the oil in the field by using slant drilling techniques. Iraq further complained that Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates had refused to cancel Iraq’s debts from its war with Iran.

Link
(http://www.nmhschool.org/tthornton/mehistorydatabase/gulf_war.htm)


The tiny, but oil-rich sheikdom of Kuwait became the tool of a U.S.inspired campaign of economic warfare designed to weaken Iraq as a regional power once the Iran-Iraq war ended. During 1989-1990, the Kuwaiti monarchy was overproducing and driving down the price of oil, a policy that cost Iraq $14 billion in lost revenue.[1] Iraq also complained that the Kuwaitis were stealing Iraqi oil by using slant drilling technology into the gigantic Rumaila oil field, most of which is inside Iraq. Kuwait also refused to work out arrangements that would allow Iraq access to the Persian Gulf. In May of 1990 at an Arab League meeting, Saddam Hussein bitterly complained about Kuwait's policy of "economic warfare" against Iraq and hinted that if Kuwait's over-production didn't change Iraq would take military action. Yet the Emir of Kuwait refused to budge. Why would an OPEC country want to drive down the price of oil? In retrospect, it is inconceivable that this tiny, undemocratic little sheikdom, whose ruling family is subject to so much hostility from the Arab masses, would have dared to remain so defiant against Iraq (a country ten times larger than Kuwait) unless Kuwait was assured in advance of protection from an even greater power - namely the United States. This is even more likely when one considers that the Kuwaiti ruling family had in the past tread lightly when it came to its relations with Iraq. Kuwait was traditionally part of Iraq's Basra Province until 1899 when Britain divided it from Iraq and declared Kuwait its colony.
Coinciding with Kuwait's overproduction of oil, Iraq was also subjected to the beginning of de facto sanctions, instituted incrementally by a number of western capitalist governments. Hundreds of major scientific, engineering, and food supply contracts between Iraq and western governments were canceled by 1990

Link (http://deoxy.org/wc/wc-consp.htm)



Iraq Accuses Kuwait Of
Slant Drilling And Stealing
300,000 Barrels Of Oil Daily
9-17-00

BAGDAD (AFP) - Iraq accused Kuwait of stealing its oil for the third day running Sunday, with one report saying it involved 300,000 barrels of crude a day taken from oil fields in the border area.

"The theft of Iraqi oil by Kuwait is not new," Saad Qassem Hammudi, a senior member of the ruling Baath Party told AFP.

"It is a fact established in Iraqi documents and reports since 1990", when Iraq invaded the emirate after accusing it of taking oil.

Hammudi said Kuwaiti Crown Prince Saad al-Abdallah al-Sabah "recognised the theft in 1990 during negotiations between Iraq and Kuwait in Saudi Arabia," preceding the invasion.

"The differences between the two were only over the amount of crude stolen," he added.

The Baghdad government newspaper Al-Jumhuriya said Sunday the amount of oil being stolen was between 300,000 and 350,000 barrels a day.

It said the oil was taken with US backing from the Rumeila, Zubeir and Basra fields in southern Iraq.

Link (http://www.rense.com/general3/slant.htm)


As far as conditions in Iraq prior to the US sanctions- Iraq was broke after the war with Iran and invaded Kuwait to plunder their resources. And don't forget how they set fire to the oil fields before leaving causing catastrophic pollution. You make it sound like Saddam was some kind of socialist hero.


That's quite a stretch. In no way would I consider Saddam a socialist or Iraq a socialist country. I stated as much in my first post.

Iraq went into Kuwait to plunder their resources? :lol: What were they going to get? Oil? Iraq has the 2nd or 3rd largest oil reserves on the planet. They were broke after the war, and Kuwait as a U.S. puppet was selling oil below market price to deny Iraq a market for their oil. It was bankrupting the country. That is why they attacked. Obviously they burned the oil fields to fuck Kuwait out of oil profits and to remove their ability to sell oil below market price.



The slant drilling was a charge by Saddam Hussein- I can't find any proof of that anywhere.

Do you honestly expect to see any capitalist media outlet to truly examine any of those claims?


I don't think that Gore would have invaded Iraq. Whether the workers of this country would have benefited at all under a Gore presidency no one can know, however I don't think we would be in this big a mess. It's the lesser of the two evils.

I appreciate you feeling on the thoughts on bourgeois elections, however if that is truly how you feel you should strongly consider whether or not calling yourself a communist is realistic. With regards to "the lesser of two evils" look where that's gotten us so far. ;)

[expatriot]

According to the test I'm 90% Anarchist and 88% Communist, however I am 100% Realist and unless things drastically change I'll still get out to vote.

[VictoryOverWar]

ExPatriot,


Actually voting does make a difference- look at Florida in '2000. I think Bush won by 500 votes so it's important to vote. I felt like that for a long time- that my vote doesn't count but if enough people got involved-even in local politics the tide could turn (although that's probably wishful thinking).

Do you think a revolution could take place in America?

ok but the 2000 election was stolen. Your vote was close only because Bush cheated his way into office. Gore won the popular vote in the united states yet still lost the election. Tell me how the electoral college works it is a flawed system. Not to mention your choices were already bad or worse. With a 2 party system is there really a point??

As far as a revolution taking place in the United States at this moment i would have to say no, the US is not ready for a revolution and especially not a communist one. I feel tension is building but the common worker in the united states no matter how bad they have it is not ready to give up the life style they have become used to. Even with a 20% aproval rating, a 2nd stolen presidency,a unjust war, economic collapse, envasion of privacy, the destruction of alaskan rain forests, and a movement to bring church and state together i unfortunately see little questioning and even less action.