withdrawals

[American_Trotskyist]

I recently quit a few drugs (cocaine and speed) and at the moment I am thinking about ending my heroin habbit so I would like some more tips on keeping clean. I realized that smoking when in a craving made it easier and because of that I have gone from a normal smoker to a chain, so are there anytips on this withdrawal problem?

[dannie]

valium (or another benzo) to get trough the first days, but don't get addicted on those too

[KC]

Get counseling.

[Freigemachten]

My best tip for getting off of drugs would be see about county funded rehab, especialy for opiate type drugs and alchohol, those are the 2 most dangerous/hardest detoxes. Also keep in mind that detox just means the drugs are out of your system, doesn't mean you're done with the addiction, chances are if you don't get into a program you will start using again. Its a fact. Most people in the programs go back to using even with the structured environment, so you're chances of stayin off are essentiay zero. It is very unlikely that you will be able to use benzos to get yourself off heroin without getting hooked on those as well. Its bad news and I hope it works out for the best. Please consider the possibility of getting into a program focused on rehabilitation.

[Anarchist Freedom]

Right now since your w/ding from speed and cocaine try and take some benzos to level you off because your dopamine and seretonin levels are really out of wack so you need something right now to just calm you down. But dont get addicted to them because benzo w/d's are worse. Dont end the heroin habit JUST yet because you dont want to be shitting on yourself and puking all over while your w/ding from coke and speed. Also Try and remove yourself from triggers. You know like when your with that group of friends who always use XXXXX drug you have to stop hanging out with them because no matter what you think you wont get clean if you still hang out with them.

[Livetrueordie]

Go watch the movie Requiem for a Dream and you'll never touch that stuff again. good luck to you...

[BuyOurEverything]

Ya I just quite coke and E (blah blah E's not additctive - I know, but it is when you do over 10 caps in a night). Pot really helps, it has counter-addictive properties. Stay away from alcohol, if possible, it just increases the cravings.

[Freigemachten]

That "counter addictive quality" is your addiction being fueled by another drug. Yeh yeh, lotta controversy on that one usualy but according to specialists in the feild it works the same way for you're brain. Generaly, if trying to get over addiction, taking another drug is not the answer. Alchohol is another one of these substances that will keep you addiction going. Detox from alchohol is very bad times, it is very very strongly recomended that you do that one in a hospitial, you're riskin DTs with that one and that shit will kill you. Livetrue, very few people can make it cold turkey, it usualy takes a personal near death experience or some other realization, usualy involving the possibility of death for an addict to want to work through treatment, and many of them relapse. Addiction is a very complicated issue and very bad times, more rehabilitation takes place in a program than alone, no evidence is needed to show that, its simple logic. Working with other people in the same position you are yeilds much better odds of getting the kind of help, advice, and support you need to get healthy. A county funded bed wouldn't be a bad way to go, at least for a start, if its not free it would be very cheap and it would get you what you need. If you insist on doing this yourself I wish you the best of luck, but would seriously protest and discourage you from trying it. No matter what, stay strong.

[Clarksist]

Weed.

Trust me... pot got me off my prescription pill habit and meth habit.

Now, smoke like two bowls a day, to get your body relaxed.

Once you get a bit more sensible in your cravings, I'd say goto a country funded rehab to kick the heroin. If you don't kick the heroin habit, you're exponentially more likely to get back on cocaine.

[Anarchist Freedom]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2006, 09:28 PM
Weed.

Trust me... pot got me off my prescription pill habit and meth habit.

Now, smoke like two bowls a day, to get your body relaxed.

Once you get a bit more sensible in your cravings, I'd say goto a country funded rehab to kick the heroin. If you don't kick the heroin habit, you're exponentially more likely to get back on cocaine.
Hes probably less likely to pick up the yayo habit again he would probably just feul his heroin addiction more.

[Ian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2006, 10:52 AM
Go watch the movie Requiem for a Dream and you'll never touch that stuff again. good luck to you...
Wrong. That movie wasn't that good.

[Commie Rat]

If it is a physical addiction then i can't help you. But from my friends (im sxe) dropping pot and e i have found that you can swap a phycolical addiction for another on eg, when ever you feel the need to smoke or drop chew gum or do something else and it will end up replacing it

[Freigemachten]

Originally posted by Ian+Jan 12 2006, 08:25 AM--> (Ian @ Jan 12 2006, 08:25 AM)
[email protected] 6 2006, 10:52 AM
Go watch the movie Requiem for a Dream and you'll never touch that stuff again. good luck to you...
Wrong. That movie wasn't that good. [/b]
I agree, it pretty much sucked, the ending scenes were pretty fucked up tho. Way trippy and a cool little user montage every time they were shootin up, but other than that, pretty stupid. I feel like I'm talkin to a wall, all you crazy libs and you're drug use to stop drug use is drivin me nuts, I've educated myself in addiction pretty well, its a career path I intend to follow, go get the book Cracked by Dr. Drew Pinsky, read it, learn the true nature of addiction, its a good book as well. he's a good guy, does good things for people and he went to school/worked in the feild for way too long to not know what he's talking about.

[Clarksist]

Originally posted by Ian+Jan 12 2006, 02:25 AM--> (Ian @ Jan 12 2006, 02:25 AM)
[email protected] 6 2006, 10:52 AM
Go watch the movie Requiem for a Dream and you'll never touch that stuff again. good luck to you...
Wrong. That movie wasn't that good. [/b]
Says you.

It is a piece of art. Rather you like it or not, a film is just like a painting... you can't make a judgement call for other people, unless you describe the reasons you didn't like it. But, just saying a movie wasn't that good doesn't help anything.

[Freigemachten]

Originally posted by Clarksist+Jan 13 2006, 06:59 AM--> (Clarksist @ Jan 13 2006, 06:59 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2006, 02:25 AM

[email protected] 6 2006, 10:52 AM
Go watch the movie Requiem for a Dream and you'll never touch that stuff again. good luck to you...
Wrong. That movie wasn't that good.
Says you.

It is a piece of art. Rather you like it or not, a film is just like a painting... you can't make a judgement call for other people, unless you describe the reasons you didn't like it. But, just saying a movie wasn't that good doesn't help anything. [/b]
There was very little affect to it which I will admit could be the fact that I've never been in the situation, the people involved seemed very distant and withdrawn from their issues, but not in a way that would imply the sort of checking out that would be seen in a user doing what needs to be done. The relationship with the mother is absurd and at many points the characters and experiences are just not believable, not hard to conceptualize, but as though they do not fit in their roles. We see snippits of some of the trauma and drama some of the characters go through, though nothing ever conclusive, and there is no real resolution, it just ends. Overall I was disappointed, it was built up to me to be this amazing peice of art, I found it to be a boring flaming peice of shit with a drawn out and pointless plot line.

[Xvall]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 07:36 PM
Get counseling.
You could try that, but you might be wasting your money. There is nothing that a certified counseler can tell you that someone else can't. I would strongly suggest distracting yourself with personal hobbies that don't revolve around your substance abuse.

If you want to scare yourself out of it read all of the negative trip reports associated with the substance on Erowid. You might psyche yourself into thinking negative thoughts whenever you use the substance, and as a result you might condition yourself to associate the substance with horrible experiences and never want to touch it again.

[Anarchist Freedom]

Originally posted by Xvall+Jan 13 2006, 05:55 PM--> (Xvall @ Jan 13 2006, 05:55 PM)
[email protected] 4 2006, 07:36 PM
Get counseling.
You could try that, but you might be wasting your money. There is nothing that a certified counseler can tell you that someone else can't. I would strongly suggest distracting yourself with personal hobbies that don't revolve around your substance abuse.

If you want to scare yourself out of it read all of the negative trip reports associated with the substance on Erowid. You might psyche yourself into thinking negative thoughts whenever you use the substance, and as a result you might condition yourself to associate the substance with horrible experiences and never want to touch it again. [/b]
Yeah thats not a good idea. Just Remove yourself from the situations where you use it.