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VictoryOverWar
4th January 2006, 00:11
One of the Greatest Rap groups out there today....anyone like them??

Jimmie Higgins
4th January 2006, 00:29
good stuff. "let's get free" is one of the best hip-hop albums of the decade so far.

LA GUERRA OLVIDADA
4th January 2006, 00:46
I concur.

VictoryOverWar
4th January 2006, 01:38
yah lets get free is a great album....i like Red black and green aswell....its a little different but still good album

Hegemonicretribution
4th January 2006, 11:47
Dead Prez are the Rage of today in my oppinion. Sometimes a little crude for my liking, and not my favourite genre, but still essential listening. Revolutionary but Gangster rocks, I would probably have Lets Get Free as my second favourite DEad Prez album. They were in my C.D. player for sometime months ago, might just get them back out.

Tekun
5th January 2006, 10:15
Dead Prez is one of the few rap duos that don't acquiesce to that gangsta mold that corporate media moguls create ;)

Lets get free is great, RBG is good
Anyone know what they're working on or coming out with in the immediate future?

Rage
5th January 2006, 21:09
I like Dead Prez, dont get me wrong, they have great lyrics but I just dont like the song (I forget what it is called, Maybe "Dont forget where you came from" or something) where they talk about shooting police and how they are going to "turn drive by's revolutionary".

"Let me help you with that officer... DIE DIE DIE"

How is shooting a police man revolutionary. Maybe shooting a proven Nazi or Klan member or something...

I dont know why I get worked up like this but it is the one song that I dont like. I dont know why either, but in the song Walk Like a Warrior and stuff like that I dont get so worked up.


Try listing to Immortal Technique, KRS-One, and Busdriver.

Those and dead prez are proably my favorite Hip-Hop Bands.


/,,/
Rock on!

celtopunk
6th January 2006, 02:24
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 09:20 PM
How is shooting a police man revolutionary. Maybe shooting a proven Nazi or Klan member or something...


It all depends on the context in which it happens. Certainly there was a time when all police forces in the US were overwhelmingly white with a significant portion of those officers also being racist (some passive and some active, ie members of the kkk). While things have improved to a certain extent there is still a culture of racism (sometimes extremely violent) in many police forces today. Eleanor Bumpers, Abner Louima, Amadou Diallo, Rodney King just to name a few. So if there are members of the police who are actively and violently engaged in racist acts then it could easily be argued that the shooting of one of these officers could be seen as a revolutionary act.

BOZG
6th January 2006, 15:07
Their earlier stuff was brilliant but from RBG onwards, it went downhill.

Intifada
6th January 2006, 20:27
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 09:20 PM
How is shooting a police man revolutionary.
Not only is the US Police Department racist, it has served to protect an oppressive state.

It is the police who beat left-wing activists with their batons.

They are a class enemy.

VictoryOverWar
7th January 2006, 03:28
Rage- Please dont even try to include BusDriver in the same sentance as dead prez....That guy is talentless. To them killing cops is revolutionary simply for the fact that they help enforce laws that make life impossible to live. They are the enforcers of the system we are all working to get rid of.

BOZG- Hmm RBG is a great album they just took a different approach then with lets get free, why because they already made lets get free. Also RBG has 4 or 5 songs from there earlier album so actually they could not have gone downhill

Oh and there is no word on a new album yet but im shure they will drop one by next year

Hegemonicretribution
10th January 2006, 17:31
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 09:20 PM
"Let me help you with that officer... DIE DIE DIE"

How is shooting a police man revolutionary. Maybe shooting a proven Nazi or Klan member or something...

If you listen to the context that the rest of the album, and in this case the song create around that line, you realise what they mean. Dead Prez aren't pacifists, and never pretend to be otherwise, and police men should not be exempt from the war waged against the state and private property, when they are the very ones protecting the state and private property.

The enemy might be a political leader, but your main battle is with the soldiers under their command. Police are agents of oppression, and whilst they may be good at heart, if they side with bigbusiness/government in a revolutionary arena then they will go down. You or them. Remember they are fighting for the preservation of oppression, you are fighting against it.

This was not a call to kill cops as such, rather a reminder that it may be neccessary.

Rage
21st January 2006, 01:03
Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2006, 03:44 AM
Rage- Please dont even try to include BusDriver in the same sentance as dead prez....That guy is talentless.
He is a Different style then Dead Prez, He is very Surrealistic.

In "I have a Dream Too" the lyrics are:


Backseat of the 'lac, big gat in my lap
Ready for combat, feelin like Geronimo Pratt
We had the windows cracked, headed up the strip
Black rag in my hand, don't want no prints on the clip
Hollow tips cuz we thorough with this shit my nigga
This aint no game, we bang for yo hood my nigga
I take a left at the light, turn off the headlights and ride real slow
Now holla at me when you see the 5-0
Alrite Dirty, yall boys ready?
Bout to turn drive-bys revolutionary
*POW POW POW POW POW* YEAH MUTHAFUCKA YEAH!
*POW POW POW POW POW* YEAH MUTHAFUCKA YEAH!
Look at 'em run, too scared to pull they guns
Outta shape from them coffees and them cinnamon buns
This shit is fun, how it feel when the tables is turned
Hollow tips hit yah flesh through yo vests and it burn
That's a lesson you learn, comin strait from the slums
And it don't stop till we get full freedom!

DIE DIE DIE!"


I just think there are better ways of conveying this. The Impression I had was that Dead Prez wants to fall into that group that KRS-One Falls into, that Spiritual Hip-Hop, I could be mistaken, but with a song like this it is much harder to accomplish.

/,,/
Rock on!

commiecrusader
21st January 2006, 22:44
Dead Prez are sick. Political, great lyricists, great voices, and bangin beats. YEAH MOTHAFUCKA YEAH!!!

RebeldePorLaPAZ
22nd January 2006, 14:49
there havent been anything new from them in a while, i would say their first album was deff the best.

anyways check out this site. has revolutionary styled rap

http://www.bareregular.com/

there's lots of songs you can download and the cd's dont cost much either. that way you would have something to listen too untill dead prez comes out with a new cd, lol if they ever do.


--Paz

The Grey Blur
22nd January 2006, 15:49
The Impression I had was that Dead Prez wants to fall into that group
They don't want to fall into any group, the entire point of making music is to create something original


Spiritual Hip-Hop
Spiritual...? :blink:


/,,/
Rock on!
Melting my brain, please stop

VictoryOverWar
23rd January 2006, 19:09
This shit is fun, how it feel when the tables is turned
Hollow tips hit yah flesh through yo vests and it burn
That's a lesson you learn, comin strait from the slums
And it don't stop till we get full freedom!

that line right there conveys everything about that song....im lost at where you dont understand the song......also have you listened to the whole album....With RBG they were going in a different direction then lets get free....RBG is more of a survival album on how to work within the capitalist system. If you had ever been harassed due to the color of your skin you may not be so quick to judge the justification of killing a cop

VictoryOverWar
23rd January 2006, 19:28
M-1's first solo album "CONFIDENTIAL" will be released on March 21,

RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - MILITANT
25th January 2006, 22:27
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 09:28 PM
I like Dead Prez, dont get me wrong, they have great lyrics but I just dont like the song (I forget what it is called, Maybe "Dont forget where you came from" or something) where they talk about shooting police and how they are going to "turn drive by's revolutionary".

"Let me help you with that officer... DIE DIE DIE"

How is shooting a police man revolutionary. Maybe shooting a proven Nazi or Klan member or something...

I dont know why I get worked up like this but it is the one song that I dont like. I dont know why either, but in the song Walk Like a Warrior and stuff like that I dont get so worked up.


Try listing to Immortal Technique, KRS-One, and Busdriver.

Those and dead prez are proably my favorite Hip-Hop Bands.


/,,/
Rock on!
im not trying to judge u ..but if u come from an impoverished area where police corruption and beatings run ramped .TRUST me ull feel the same way ... not saying that one should do it or anything (neither are they really) but the feeling is there ... one becomes almost "trained" in way .. like once u see a po curser or 5-o patrolling .u get this intense rage inside of u .. it might just be me tho ;)

deak
3rd February 2006, 08:06
Rage- Please dont even try to include BusDriver in the same sentance as dead prez....That guy is talentless.

I love Dead Prez, but man Busdriver is pretty hard too. Remind me of Blackalicious some.

Tekun
3rd February 2006, 21:39
Although I like their music, the only thing Im not feeling is their simple lyrics
I mean, I realize that their message is most important, but their delivery is not creative and their lyrics are not imaginative

They basically give u a good message unfortunately without incredible methaphors and great flow that other secular rappers are famous for (Rass Kass, Nas, IT)

But Im still a fan
Lets just hope their upcoming work is a little more loyal to their socially conscious stance from "Lets Get Free"
Kuz RBG did not come close to the substance in "Lets get Free"

Rage
8th April 2006, 01:05
I am going to see M-1 from Dead Prez Open up from Ghostface Killah Tonight.

Should be awsome :D

/,,/
Rock on!

wet blanket
8th April 2006, 22:43
Not a real big fan of them. It's really hard to take them seriously when they're not revolutionary activists outside of the studio and they're selling records for Sony.

They're a bad joke playing off of the negative stereotypes associated with the 'gangsta culture' and black nationalist movements.

CombatLiberalism
10th April 2006, 01:41
MIM has the best revolutionary music reviews.


dead prez
Lets Get Free
Loud Records
2000


This album could easily be the most revolutionary album of the year. With references to Mao Zedong and quotes from the Black Panther Party, they take their experiences and apply lessons learned from history to produce a truly revolutionary message...." (Read the full review: http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/bookstor...p/deadprez.html (http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/bookstore/music/hiphop/deadprez.html) )

Communist review of Dead Prez can be found here: http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/bookstor...p/deadprez.html (http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/bookstore/music/hiphop/deadprez.html)

Read more communist reviews of music, movies, and books: http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/bookstore/index.html#M

Tickin' TimebOmb John
13th April 2006, 11:55
personally i love dpz
there newist album RBG is mis-understood, its not an abondoning of the revolutionary socailsist politics that contributed to the brilliance of lets get free, its focusing on a different aspect of the struggle. whilst lets get free focused generally on ideology and theory, the new albums comin from a more street perspective, looking atthe daily struggle to survive, and how that fits into the wider struggle.