National Bolshevism

[tatu]

What are your views on National Bolshevism (http://www.nbp-info.org)?

The Amerikan site proclaims that they are "beyond left or right". There are references to Nazbols (Nazi-Bolsheviks?). I am not sure if the National-Bolshevik is progressive (could it be permeated by communists to exploit for a step-up revolutionary advantage?).

[Jadan ja]

I dont know a lot about National Bolshevism, but it is a very strange and confusing ideology. Many of their ideas are extremly nationalist and fascist, but they use communist symbols (but I think they use swastika also, I saw it on the link that was posted above). Some of their ideas (what I read from the link that was posted above) sound more like a sick fascist fantasies then like goals of a political party (great Russian empire from Vladivostok to Gibraltar).

[LSD]

"National Bolshevism" is nothing more than fascistic Russian nationalism with delusions of leftism.

Despite trying to co-opt communist symbolism, there is nothing remotely leftist about their program. If you actually read what Liminov and others have written, you quickly realize that they are far more "Naz" than "Bol". And any political movement that attempts to "combine" Naziism with anything is no friend of ours!

[Jadan ja]

I dont know is this my interpretation correct, since I know very little about that ideology.

I have an impression that they use communist symbols and talk about nationalization only because it is part of "great Russian history." When they say socialism they must add the word "Russian" before the word "socialism". Therefore, if socialism is a Russian economic system, they, as Russian nationalists, must accept it.

Am I misinterpreting anything?

[Wanted Man]

I think Jadan is correct. It's also the obvious way they can be compared to the Nazis and the fascists. Both of those weren't for an ideology that was simply "left" or "right", both of those used symbolism from the "glorious" history of their countries, even though they had little in common with those empires... The nazbols use Soviet imagery not because they agree with it even a little, but because they see the USSR as such a "glorious" empire, the golden age of their country, etc.

[viva le revolution]

It is quite understandable that such an ideology has sprung up. Russia went from a competing superpower to a backward, gangster led kleptocracy. Such ambitions to return to a 'golden peroid' always spring up after collapse especially one as dramatic and humiliating as the collapse of the USSR. however this should not be confused with left-wing ideology nor communism nor leninism. This is just nostalgic nationalism.

[YKTMX]

Originally posted by viva le [email protected] 24 2005, 05:51 PM
It is quite understandable that such an ideology has sprung up. Russia went from a competing superpower to a backward, gangster led kleptocracy. Such ambitions to return to a 'golden peroid' always spring up after collapse especially one as dramatic and humiliating as the collapse of the USSR. however this should not be confused with left-wing ideology nor communism nor leninism. This is just nostalgic nationalism.
Agreed. Well put, comrade.

[Jadan ja]

I could not find information on these:

1. Are they antisemites?
2. What happens to other nations in National Bolshevik Russian Empire?
3. I read that they have good opinion on Mussolini. What is their opinion on Hitler?
4. What do Natinal Bolsheviks think about religion?

[SonofRage]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevism

[sleepy1]

Originally posted by Jadan [email protected] 26 2005, 12:46 PM
I could not find information on these:

1. Are they antisemites?
2. What happens to other nations in National Bolshevik Russian Empire?
3. I read that they have good opinion on Mussolini. What is their opinion on Hitler?
4. What do Natinal Bolsheviks think about religion?
I just started to researching about this party. From what i understanf they dont even have yet a solid political platform even though they have appealed to the "Duma" to declare them as an offical legit party.
This answers are based on what i read/heard about them:
1.VERY! They have been linked to the bombing of a synagoug in Riga(Lita)1998. And vandalization of a synagouge in varonyze(russia). Their views on race/nationality issues are very simillar to all the neo-nazi parties in russia(it kind of relates to your third question too). The party leadership was and still is calling for "Russia for Russians". Parties leader Eduard Limonav proposed to the introduction of a rule regarding the ethnic origin of all future presidential candidates: the president of Russia can be as little as 50% Russian, but if such is the case, then the other 50% must at least be Slavic blood. This proposal was directed at Limonov's rival, Vladimir Vol'fovich Zhirinovskii, whose father was Jewish.
2.They will merge into the grand empire and will all be governed by Russians dominance.
3.Although i personally didnt really find any references that say anything about their opinion about hitler and his regime, i think the term "Russia for Russians" says a lot about what they think about Hitlers style. Also i know that a fair amount of their street activists are racsit skinheads, who carried out racial attacks on numerous cases. Also their is a russian racist-neo nazi punk/metal group called "Grazhdanskaya Oborona" has songs which contain National Bolshevist content in them.
4.This is somthing that i found at a political platform from a "Euroasia" party established by Aleksandr Dugin. A man who established the NBP party with lemonov and later abandoned it, in order to start his own political party which is also based on an euroasian principle. I guess that it also reflects the Euroasianic views of the National Bolshevics concerning religion. " It (Euroasia) is a traditionalist party, founded on a system of values elaborated by the traditional Eurasian confessions – Orthodoxy, Islam, Judaism, and Buddhism. The Church is rightly separated from the State; but it is inseparable from the society, culture, education, and information."

Note im not sure 100% about questions 2 and 4 those are my own conclusions. But the links between The NBP and racism are undeniable.