Cashing in on karma

[Kalki Avatar]

In reality I don't even believe karma exists anymore. In keeping with the season, I think of it as about as real as santa claus telling kids to be good or you'll get a lump of coal.

However doing good things brings good rewards, though I see no evidence to prove that these are just random and this good stuff would not have happened to me if I didn't have good karma from being such a nice guy.

When you do something nice for someone they believe you to be a nicer person, tell the truth and they think of you as more honest, repay your debts, this builds karma, supposedly. However you can use all this trust people have built in you for your own needs, making up bullshit excuses to get out of doing something you made an prior agreement to do, hey you're honest and would ordinarily keep your word remember, it must be serious and something you really can't help.

Random nice shit happens to me everyday and I think it has absolutely nothing to do with karma, but I try to label something tangible like the level of trust someone has in you as karma, and you can cash in on karma and drain that account and just go spend that money however you want to but if you go into the red I wouldn't pay the karma bank back and it would be time to find a new place to store all your positive energies until you intend to fuck that guy over too.

I dunno, tell me what you think.

[Fidelbrand]

As far as I know, Karma is about bad/good deeds done in this life, and repaid/rewarded in the next life. So what ever happening to you, according to karma, is because of the deeds of your past life.

According to your analogy, my idea is that: It's more like a savings account, instead of a current account .

Isn't it?

[Kalki Avatar]

My point of view when I believed in karma was that is just a current account that I could tap into at anytime but never did.

When I stopped believing in karma I 'cashed' in entirely on all the trust I had built up, but I have every intention of repaying those who I blantantly ripped off.

[Commie Rat]

Karma is more like an energy (if you belive in that crap) and is just a description of all the good/ bad things that happen in your life.

It is a vague way of measuring all the shit that happens in your life.

Eg, You find someones $50 and give it to them, that does not mean that you will get $50 back some how.

You could save someones life and only get a small reward or you can do something minscule and get a huge reward

[hamperleft]

Eg, You find someones $50 and give it to them, that does not mean that you will get $50 back some how.

yea, but say you give some guy 50 bucks, the next day you see him, he introduces you to his highly attractive nymphophiliac single sister, or see's you in trouble, and helps you out, karma doesn't necessarily deal with "life energy" but with actions in life itself, say instead of giving the guy 50 bucks, you slapped him across the face with a rolled up newspaper, next time he saw you in trouble, he would be a lot less inclined to help you out.


You could save someones life and only get a small reward or you can do something minscule and get a huge reward

yea, but the point is, in some way you are getting rewarded, weather it's feeling good that you saved that guys life, or him hooking you up with his hot sister, somehow some way you are getting rewarded for your good deeds, ie, karma exists.

[redchrisfalling]

Karma is a neat idea, but honestly you shouldn't need insentive to do good deeds. That positive feeling that the act instills should be reward enough. Isn't that one of the esscential principals of any left wing ideal, others before self. I get all the rewrd i need just by seeing the smile on someones face and knowing that i have made the world a better place.

[Ol' Dirty]

The main reason I don't agree with karmic philosophy is that it is a form, although a radical one, of pre-destiny and fate, and I think that nothing is predestined; only we choose our actions, not some cosmic energy.

Also, if you are a nice guy/gal, that doesn't mean that people are gong to be nice to you back. In fact, in my experiences, whenever you hold open doors for people (which I do often as my "good deed for the day", or whatever), man or woman, girl or boy, they very seldom thank me.

Overall, I think karma is a load of bullshit.

Peace.

[Clarksist]

I completely agree with.

Karma exists, but not in the "hocus pocus" form that we know it as. It exists as a surplus and deficit of trust and affection other people have for you.

I try to live life as if karma exists though. Not because I believe in it, just because I find myself feeling better at the end of the day that I helped that old lady who dropped her change at the cash register, or that I opened the door for a little boy and his child-bearing mother at the restaurant.

I guess the answer as to why I feel good about it is all about humans' overwhelming altruistic nature. But I will say this: if you live as if karma is real, in an odd way you do grow happier.

[Huelguista]

Originally posted by Kalki [email protected] 19, 2005 05:36 pm
In reality I don't even believe karma exists anymore. In keeping with the season, I think of it as about as real as santa claus telling kids to be good or you'll get a lump of coal.

However doing good things brings good rewards, though I see no evidence to prove that these are just random and this good stuff would not have happened to me if I didn't have good karma from being such a nice guy.

When you do something nice for someone they believe you to be a nicer person, tell the truth and they think of you as more honest, repay your debts, this builds karma, supposedly. However you can use all this trust people have built in you for your own needs, making up bullshit excuses to get out of doing something you made an prior agreement to do, hey you're honest and would ordinarily keep your word remember, it must be serious and something you really can't help.

Random nice shit happens to me everyday and I think it has absolutely nothing to do with karma, but I try to label something tangible like the level of trust someone has in you as karma, and you can cash in on karma and drain that account and just go spend that money however you want to but if you go into the red I wouldn't pay the karma bank back and it would be time to find a new place to store all your positive energies until you intend to fuck that guy over too.

I dunno, tell me what you think.
I'm not too sure if karma is an actual force out there, But all i know is....sometimes my little brother will do all he can to pester me, then he'll just randomly hurt himself by tripping over something or smacking a random body part on the coffee table.

justified karma. makes me happy occasionally :rolleyes:

[apathy maybe]

Huelguista: You do realise that this is an old thread and the thread starter is banned?

On topic slightly, I don't believe in karma. But if you do good shit for people, then they will do good shit for you. If you live in a society where people do good shit to each other, then it will come back to you.

So be nice to people, if you want people to be nice to you.

[manic expression]

Some people are making a common error. Although karma is a large influence in our lives, what people often don't account for is the fact that OTHER people have free will, and bad things may simply be other people doing bad things to us.

IMO, in order for karma to actually exist, we must be able to act on our own will (there needs to be an action for there to be a reaction). Therefore, while many things happen to us because of what we have done, some things are simply the actions of other individuals.

Furthermore, the idea of collective karma is important as well. The actions a community does will affect members of that community, even if those members are not directly responsible for it.

This is where karma gets complicated, but really, karma is just about actions and reactions.

and on edit, this is just stuff I've learned from studying different belief systems; I'm just trying to explain the perception I have about it and nothing more.

[Question everything]

:P no you're stealing one of the last things I believe in! if you do something good, then that other person will feel inclined to return the favour, if you're honest people then they will be honest to you, along those lines... if not along the lines of a universal force...