Pedophilia in a communist society?

[Body Count]

How do you think this will be handled? I understand that sexual repression will begin to fade away once communism is implemented, but what exactly does that mean regarding what is considered by todays society as "pedophilia"? I understand that some countries today are more strict on it then others, such as America which is of course more strict then most European countries. But do you think that in a communist society, whats regarded as a "healthy" age gap between couples will widen? I mean, from my guess, children will also have much more freedom from there parents then they do now correct? So if a 40 year old man wants to run off with someones 15 year old daughter, and she consents to it, who is to stop them?

The second scenario could be that pedophilia will cease to exist or be a very minor occurance. Its possible for one to make an argument that pedophilia is apart of the influence of Bourgeois society, somehow influencing grown people to engage in these "unnatural acts".

I say that last comment with quotes and a saracstic tone because I don't want to make people believe that I am of the opinion that we can decide what is "natural" or "wrong" or any of those labels. I'm all ears to anyone that wants to defend what is considered "pedophilia".

[FidelCastro]

It is not the the act of having sex with a child that causes the outrage, it is the fact that a person in a position of trust and authority abuses that trust and has sex with a child, having sex with a child is just gross but abusing your authority over a child and forcing them to gratify your sexual needs is wrong and if you eliminate the adult authority (which would be a bad thing to do) then all you have is a really gross act.

I think sick fucks like pedofiles need to be put in a room naked with a 200 pound muscle man named tank who has been sexually deprived for a year and a half and see what authority abuse really is!

[Clarksist]

While it would be totally awesome to have pedophiles sodomized by sexually deprived steroid junkies... I think there is a better solution.

Pedophilia is not one of these "inventions of bourgeois society". While the technicalities are (statutory rape), for the most part pedophilia is the result of having been raped as a child.

I think something we all need to remember is that someone who is physically matured sexually (not mentally) who agrees to sexual acts is either being forced, or willing. Say a fifteen year old wants to have sex with a forty year old out of their own sexual desire... that isn't a horrible depravity*.

When a child has not sexually matured however, sex is something that is either being taken against their will, or they are trying to make daddy, mommy, uncle, or aunt love them. The person of authority (the pedophile) is then using their authority to command sexual depravity*.

In a communist society, a child would tell people that s/he has been raped, and then the city will hold that person in a trial. Simple as that.

Now, the punishment? Perhaps jail time... execution... torturous sodomization... it comes down to what the people feel is the right thing to do. That's called democracy and democracy is the key to communism.

*(I use the term depravity as an act which violates personal rights of a person in a free society, not as a moralistic term)

[Monty Cantsin]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2005, 05:58 AM
In a communist society, a child would tell people that s/he has been raped, and then the city will hold that person in a trial. Simple as that.
:rolleyes: , Communism can fix everything now can it?

[sovietsniper]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2005, 05:58 AM
I think there is a better solution.


So do i, gulag them. They deerve everything and anything nasty we can think of for hurting a child.

[Body Count]

Thanks for all the comments everyone.

But please remember that I am not necessarily talking about child molestation.

I am mainly wondering what you all feel will be considered healthy, and non healthy age differences in relationships in a communist society, and whether you feel that our current situation with some men who enjoy much younger partners to be a result of capitalism...or possible repressed by it.

If a 25 year old guy was in a relationship with a 16 year old girl do you feel that gulag is the proper punishment? Does that girl not have her choice in this instance?

I'm not trying to come off as some weird Nambla supporter or something...just trying to stir up opinions....:D

BTW, I do fdeel that bourgeois society in some way is promoting pedophilia.

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[sovietsniper]

Originally posted by Body [email protected] 19 2005, 05:07 PM


But please remember that I am not necessarily talking about child molestation.


If a 25 year old guy was in a relationship with a 16 year old girl do you feel that gulag is the proper punishment? Does that girl not have her choice in this instance?



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Ohh sorry, i thought you meaned primary school aged kids.

[vladimirm]

Comrades, your just labeling a group of people and sentenced them to I don’t know what type of punishment, isn’t this similar to Stalin or Hitler? these people are either ill, or not in control of their mental faculties, we need to help these people, they may have been abused themselves, they may be exerting some form of power over the victim, in which case, that will not be a problem, it is not right to kill or to hurt or to imprison anybody simply because what they do disgusts us, in the best interest of the child, they need protecting, but we must try to help people not lock them up.

[More Fire for the People]

Pedophilia exist as a psychological breakdown as a result of some form of trauma or genetic disorder. It is unfair to treat those who are in an abnormal state of mind as criminals. However, in a socialist society "pedophilia" would most likely be different from what it is now. I suggest that a "pedophile" is anyone who is sexually attracted to prepubescents.

[Ownthink]

If the teenager (13-17? I dunno) comes to you and WANTS to fuck, how is that pedophilia? You are not forcing it on them using your authority, which is sick exploitation.

I think a case by case basis is best for this sort of thing.

[rioters bloc]

Originally posted by Body [email protected] 20 2005, 04:07 AM
I am mainly wondering what you all feel will be considered healthy, and non healthy age differences in relationships in a communist society, and whether you feel that our current situation with some men who enjoy much younger partners to be a result of capitalism...or possible repressed by it.

If a 25 year old guy was in a relationship with a 16 year old girl do you feel that gulag is the proper punishment? Does that girl not have her choice in this instance.
but then that's not pedophilia - pedophilia is a 'love' or 'attraction' to children who have not yet undergone puberty [usually in the 2-9 year old mark]

what you're talking about is completely different, and i think that's where the confusion lies

[Hegemonicretribution]

I think part of the problem would go away when we adopt a healthier attitude towards sex. When it is not romanticised by religious bullshit, or by an irrational custom, children could learn about sex from a younger age. I mean learn about sex, not the leap to the conclusion it is wrong or dirty.

In these cases then even a 5 year old could be able to say no, and when a forceful nature is used this is a different problem. Of course I am not suggesting that 5 year olds should have sex, rather that they don't need to be protected from the concept.

If people were open and honest about everything, and there was a desire not to upset a benificial society, then seeking out treatment would be plausible. Paedophile is perhaps the worst label in some countries and cultures, and because of this, it is quite likely that paedophiles would not even contemplate seeking treatment.

[Body Count]

Originally posted by rioters bloc+Dec 19 2005, 11:46 PM--> (rioters bloc @ Dec 19 2005, 11:46 PM)
Body [email protected] 20 2005, 04:07 AM
I am mainly wondering what you all feel will be considered healthy, and non healthy age differences in relationships in a communist society, and whether you feel that our current situation with some men who enjoy much younger partners to be a result of capitalism...or possible repressed by it.

If a 25 year old guy was in a relationship with a 16 year old girl do you feel that gulag is the proper punishment? Does that girl not have her choice in this instance.
but then that's not pedophilia - pedophilia is a 'love' or 'attraction' to children who have not yet undergone puberty [usually in the 2-9 year old mark]

what you're talking about is completely different, and i think that's where the confusion lies [/b]
Actually, see, I agree that sleeping with a 15 year old isn't really wrong, but in America and other countries as well....it is seen as so. What I'm asking is if you all feel that would be different under communism.

[FidelCastro]

who hear thinks the 90 year old guy and Anna Nicole Smith having sex is just a tad bit gross? These people are consenting adults. Now lets go back in time to when Anna is 15 and having sex with that guy who at that time was probablly getting a full pension for at least 10 years. Does that now seem grosser? Same age difference but Anna is only 15. That is why we have statutory rape and legally, having sex with someone who is 15 isn't pedofilia but it is statutory rape.