American Secret Police

[DisIllusion]

Source (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1415435)


One step closer to fascism.... <_<

[WUOrevolt]

Im for revolt, who else?

[DisIllusion]

Careful comrade, pretty soon they&#39;ll be able to watch your e-mails and follow you around for just saying that. :lol:

[Ownthink]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2005, 12:24 PM
Careful comrade, pretty soon they&#39;ll be able to watch your e-mails and follow you around for just saying that. :lol:
Pretty soon? Try now.

The NSA and DHS can do anythign they want, the Patriot Act gives them these abilities.

[Rockfan]

Whats the DHS? and another thing, all I hear is patriot act, what are the main points.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

DHS = Department of Homeland Security

[bolshevik butcher]

Big brother is watchin you. I have ot say it&#39;s not surprising, are we seriously going to believe that he is the first president to do this?

[Ownthink]

Originally posted by Clenched [email protected] 17 2005, 04:25 PM
Big brother is watchin you. I have ot say it&#39;s not surprising, are we seriously going to believe that he is the first president to do this?
No, similar things (like sneak and peak searches) happened to Leftists and generally anyone who opposed the Status Quo bullshit (Abby Hoffman anyone?) during Vietnam.

[WUOrevolt]

Yeah, you know how many pages the FBI had on Malcolm X, the Weathermen, and John Lennon, completely ridicluous.

In his autoboigraphy Malcolm X said that he knew that he was being spied on and that if he saud something like he was gonna blow up siomething he was sure he would be swarmed upon within five minutes.

[ComTom]

Oh yeah I know. When Jim Morrison of The Doors wripped his dick out on stage in Miami the FBI and the Dade County attorney indicted him, the FBI also sent spies to there shows, dressed up as hippies, and watched Morrison to see if he is doing anything immoral.

In 1969, I believe that a bunch of college students broke into FBI archives and stole files on the Black Panther party and other various radical groups and they discovered that the FBI was actually KILLING OFF the leadership of the Black Panther party. They tried to bring Huey P. Newton down and they killed Fred Hampton, I think.

[WUOrevolt]

They did kill Fred Hampton.

[Rockfan]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2005, 12:37 PM
Oh yeah I know. When Jim Morrison of The Doors wripped his dick out on stage in Miami the FBI and the Dade County attorney indicted him, the FBI also sent spies to there shows, dressed up as hippies, and watched Morrison to see if he is doing anything immoral.


Was that before or after the show he got so pissed he fell asleep on stage with the whole crowd booing him? :P

Is there a list of countires that do/have carrie out this practise, like apart from the ovbious ones.

[Atlas Swallowed]

If you go back further to the early 20th century they used to spy on imprison and deport people for being Anarchist or Communist. The United States is a police state and has been a police state for many years. Look at the size of the prison population. Halliburton makes good money building prisons so the population of prisoners will surely rise. Proffiting on human misery thats the American way or more accuratly thats the capitalist way.

[ComTom]

I got a nice example, in Fahrenheit 9-11 this group of babyboomer grandma enviromental and peace group was infilitrated by a cop. I swear to God, if you look at these people that the counter terrorist agents just had to investigate, you would laugh. They are little cute chubby old women and men.

Jim Morrison did alot of shit. Thats why he moved to Paris, the FBI had like a 12 page report on him.

[WUOrevolt]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2005, 08:34 AM
I got a nice example, in Fahrenheit 9-11 this group of babyboomer grandma enviromental and peace group was infilitrated by a cop. I swear to God, if you look at these people that the counter terrorist agents just had to investigate, you would laugh. They are little cute chubby old women and men.

Jim Morrison did alot of shit. Thats why he moved to Paris, the FBI had like a 12 page report on him.
Yea, the name of the group is called Peace Fresno.

One of the most notorius things that Jim Morrison did was he threatened to whip it out on stage.

[Guerrilla22]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2005, 09:20 PM
DHS = Department of Homeland Security
Yes, we all ready have a secret police the DHS.

[norwegian commie]

Careful comrade, pretty soon they&#39;ll be able to watch your e-mails and follow you around for just saying that.

well they can do that now, and they have.
im norway communists were watches whereever they were.
if they went to another countrie they pfotografed their passport.
And followed commies around in cars and in any way possible.
we were considered a threat to the safety of the countrie.

You think it is different in the USA?
the watching of commies in Norway was USA trigggerd

And later in a speach the king only said one thing: "I am alsoe the king of the communists. "

[Fidelbrand]

It&#39;s happening again...
http://www.*****esgetstitches.com/bush-nazi.jpg

[danny android]

Did anybody else here see the NBC report on this big document that the pentagon released that was supposed to be about people and events that were concidered threats to the US or to US interests. They had quite a few anti-war activists and anti-war rallies and things. They did thist before in the sixties. Somebody needs to spread outrage over this shit or Amerika will become a police state.

[FidelCastro]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2005, 05:24 PM
Careful comrade, pretty soon they&#39;ll be able to watch your e-mails and follow you around for just saying that. :lol:
What the hell do you mean, "very soon" what the fuck do you think the government does all day. THEY OWN THE INTERNET, it was decided a few weeks ago in court.

[DisIllusion]

Originally posted by FidelCastro+Dec 18 2005, 07:59 PM--> (FidelCastro @ Dec 18 2005, 07:59 PM)
[email protected] 17 2005, 05:24 PM
Careful comrade, pretty soon they&#39;ll be able to watch your e-mails and follow you around for just saying that. :lol:
What the hell do you mean, "very soon" what the fuck do you think the government does all day. THEY OWN THE INTERNET, it was decided a few weeks ago in court. [/b]
They "OWN" the internet? Could you go into that?

[Ownthink]

Originally posted by DisIllusion+Dec 19 2005, 01:53 AM--> (DisIllusion @ Dec 19 2005, 01:53 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2005, 07:59 PM

[email protected] 17 2005, 05:24 PM
Careful comrade, pretty soon they&#39;ll be able to watch your e-mails and follow you around for just saying that. :lol:
What the hell do you mean, "very soon" what the fuck do you think the government does all day. THEY OWN THE INTERNET, it was decided a few weeks ago in court.
They "OWN" the internet? Could you go into that? [/b]
America does own most of the Internet. It enforces most of its rules and regulations on many sites out there. Why do you think Al-Qaeda sites based in Yemen or some shit get shut down?

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20051101faco...e-internet.html (http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20051101facomment84602/kenneth-neil-cukier/who-will-control-the-internet.html)

[gewehr_3]

He isnt the first president to do shit like this, John Adams, the dirty federalist fuck, passed the alien and sedition acts which pretty much jailed anyone who spoke bad things about him.
HOWEVER, we do actually have secret police they are a branch of the FBI that answers only to the white house. check out this podcast from 09 oct. http://www.podcast.net/show/42600 EVERYONE LISEN TO IT&#33;&#33;&#33; the beginning is just a bunch of shit though. the one from 16oct. my brother and his/my friend emailed them and they read it on air. his friend&#39;s email is hilairious&#33;&#33;

anyways now bush is trying to track down who leaked the phone tapping info saying that they are helping the enemy. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4542880.stm
BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

[danny android]

INGSOC
NEWSPEAK
DOUBLETHINK

[danny android]

Originally posted by DisIllusion+Dec 19 2005, 06:53 AM--> (DisIllusion @ Dec 19 2005, 06:53 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2005, 07:59 PM

[email protected] 17 2005, 05:24 PM
Careful comrade, pretty soon they&#39;ll be able to watch your e-mails and follow you around for just saying that. :lol:
What the hell do you mean, "very soon" what the fuck do you think the government does all day. THEY OWN THE INTERNET, it was decided a few weeks ago in court.
They "OWN" the internet? Could you go into that? [/b]
any body here remember raisethefist.com, that pretty much got shutdown. Exept the site wasn&#39;t so much shutdown more like the guy that ran it got arrested for the site. It&#39;s back up I think now. The moral of the story i guess is watch out for the feds if you have an anarchist website.

[rioters bloc]

Originally posted by danny [email protected] 20 2005, 12:01 PM
any body here remember raisethefist.com, that pretty much got shutdown. Exept the site wasn&#39;t so much shutdown more like the guy that ran it got arrested for the site. It&#39;s back up I think now. The moral of the story i guess is watch out for the feds if you have an anarchist website.
yeah, i remember that :(

sad tale

[Rockfan]

Austan Sherman or some was his name. I remember lisining to ZDLR doing a speech about the whole thing, aparently tons of feds stormed his house or whatever and just after he was let out they went and picked him up again, something like that, I can&#39;t remember it very clearly.

[which doctor]

The US secret police are already here, and have been here for a few years now.

[gewehr_3]

YAY BIG BROTHER&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
:D :D :D :D ;)
Pry into our lives

http://cryptome.org/echelon-60min.htm

[Janus]

The US government has always been violating the rights of its citizens in the name of "national security". Look at the Alien and Sedition Acts passed by John Adams and the internment of Japanese Americans to the prison camps out west during World War II. The Patriot Acts is just one in a long line of laws that abuse the rights of the citizens. However, because of the technological advances made, the US government has a much greater ability in surveying the populace and keeping them in "check". Simply put, these Patriot Acts will help transform the US from a "well-meaning" government into a fascist totalitarian regime particularly if they&#39;re strengthned.

[Tekun]

Its slowly evolving into Nazi Germany; fascism widespread throughout all areas of society
And many ppl don&#39;t seem to mind, pathetic&#33;

What was hilarious about Malcolm and the FBI, was the fact that he realized that he was being monitored and spied on
And whenever he talked on the phone or communicated with someone from his organization through the phone which had been tapped, he would always greet the FBI
Or whenever he was in unfamiliar room, he would always walk in and say "testing, testing, 1-2-3, FBI test 1-2-3" :lol:
Classic Malcolm

[DisIllusion]

I love Big Brother, he is always right.

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

Sounds like the U.S.

OH SHIT THOUGHT POLICE.

[danny android]

we are at war with eurasia we have always been at war with eurasia. east asia is our allie we have always been allies with east asia. We are at war with eastasia we have always been at war with east asia. Eurasia are our allies we have always been allies with Eurasia. Sounds like American foriegn policy also. One minute someone is our allie the next thing you know they are the axis of evil.(Iran-Iraq war anyone)(or maybe osama bin laden as mujehadean against the soviets)