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tolstoyevski
15th December 2005, 00:18
a few days ago I saw a quote from deleuze, it says approximately something like that:

"I hate hegelism and dialectics mostly in my life.."

anti-hegelist, non-dialectical, schizoanalyst, dettoralizator, inspired by bergson..

Isn't it so clear that these are almost stolen consepts of romantisisim and German idealism?

it seems to me that an idealism is resurrected by postmodernism. And this one is enriched with new consepts but tells the same thing from different ways..

am I conservative? Narrow minded?
Sorry but I can't believe that it is a new form materialism..
Remember the 11th thesis..

What do you say?

Rosa Lichtenstein
2nd January 2006, 14:45
On the contrary, comrade, dialectical materialism represents a return to an ancient, Hermetic, if not enchanted view of nature, as I demonstrate at my site:

http://anti-dialectics.org

Dialectics: you know it does not work.

Ask 3 billion workers....

Guest1
2nd January 2006, 16:16
You're right comrade, one of the left's bigger problems right now is the obsession with the world of ideas, and the rejection of any real practical applicability. When the world isn't going your way, reject it and talk instead.

Real change cannot come from idealist philosophy.

Axel1917
7th January 2006, 02:33
Originally posted by Che y [email protected] 2 2006, 04:27 PM
You're right comrade, one of the left's bigger problems right now is the obsession with the world of ideas, and the rejection of any real practical applicability. When the world isn't going your way, reject it and talk instead.

Real change cannot come from idealist philosophy.
A comrade once told me that Deluze is pure, idealistic nonsense, as I was wondering about it, as I once came into conflict with "contemporary Marxists" that supported his works. Those "Marxists" were nothing more than reformists, of whom often employed subjective idealism in their arguments. They also seemed to be quite saturated in petty-Bourgeois ideology.

I believe that Alan Woods was correct when he noted that the "professional" philosophers are really enlisted by the Bourgeois in the struggle against Marxism, no matter how much they deny it.

I feel that this quote really sums things up in regards to idealism being taught in universities:

"The philosophy of Marxism is materialism. Throughout the modern history of Europe, and especially at the end of the eighteenth century in France, where a resolute struggle was conducted against every kind of medieval rubbish, against serfdom in institutions and ideas, materialism has proved to be the only philosophy that is consistent, true to all the teachings of natural science and hostile to superstition, cant and so forth. The enemies of democracy have, therefore, always exerted all their efforts to “refute”, under mine and defame materialism, and have advocated various forms of philosophical idealism, which always, in one way or another, amounts to the defence or support of religion."

-V.I. Lenin, The Three Sources and Three Component Parts of Marxism