Race Riots in sydney.

[Monty Cantsin]

12 held for Sydney race riots
11/12/2005 16:39 - (SA)
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Sydney - Racial violence erupted in Sydney beachside suburbs on Sunday after thousands of white youths, many chanting racial slurs, clashed with police and attacked people of Middle Eastern origin.

At least 12 people were arrested for assault and other offences and several were injured in the alcohol-fuelled fights at Cronulla beach.

Late Sunday, after an uneasy peace had returned to Cronulla, the violence spread.

Police said youths damaged cars in at least one nearby suburb and a man was stabbed after what a police spokesperson described as a short conversation with a "group of males of Mediterranean or Middle Eastern appearance".

The victim was hospitalised in serious condition.

Dozens of police in riot gear also were involved in a confrontation with youths in the Brighton-le-Sands neighbourhood close to Sydney's Botany Bay, Sky News reported.

Earlier on Sunday, crowds approached people of Middle Eastern background at Cronulla beach "with vile abuse", police assistant commissioner Mark Goodwin said.

In TV broadcasts, the rioters overwhelmingly were young white men.

Many carried beer bottles, waved Australian flags and chanted anti-Middle Eastern slogans in response to reports that youths of Lebanese ancestry were responsible for an attack last weekend on two of the beach's life guards.

One white teenager had the words "We grew here, you flew here" painted on his back.

On the beach, someone had written "100 percent Aussie pride" in the sand.

Two paramedics in an ambulance were injured as they tried to get youths of Middle Eastern appearance out of the Cronulla surf lifesaving club, where they had fled to escape one mob.

The mob broke the vehicle's windows and kicked its doors as the paramedics tried to get the group out.

TV broadcasts showed a group of young women attacking another woman. Her ethnicity was not immediately clear.

Some rioters stomped on police vehicles and other cars.

Officers fought back with batons and pepper spray.

Sydney has many beaches, but Cronulla is one of few that are easily accessible by train and often is visited by youngsters - many of Middle Eastern ethnicity - from the poorer suburbs of western and southern Sydney.

Area residents accuse the visitors of being disrespectful and sometimes intimidating other beachgoers.

Days ago, police increased the number of officers patrolling the beach after SMSs began circulating calling for retaliation for the attack on the lifeguards.

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http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,...1849120,00.html (http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1849120,00.html)

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/st...9%5E661,00.html (http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,17535419%5E661,00.html)

the article posted was the frist on the list...

why do you think it happened and how can we stop this kind of 'race wars' from continuing?

[Intifada]

To stop this from happening again, the racists must be smashed into pieces.

[Eoin Dubh]

Where are the leftist Aussies? Time to intervene I would say!

[bcbm]

The lunacy of immigrants bashing immigrants never ceases to amaze me.

[Commie Rat]

This is the only time where i have wanted the police to break batons over protesters heads. . .

[chebol]

The Sydney Stop the War Coalition are holding a meeting tonight (that was already planned, with a short anti-war film-screening), where possible reponses will be floated.
Monday 12 Dec, 7pm, UTS Tower, Room 4.06.


Then, tomorrow, a cross-campus Anti-racism meeting has been called at UTS.
Tuesday 13 Dec, 7:30 pm, UTS Students' Association.

[Clutch]

Originally posted by Eoin [email protected] 12 2005, 10:16 AM
Where are the leftist Aussies? Time to intervene I would say!
All eight of us? Sadly there ain't much of a left movement here, or not that I've seen anyway.

[rioters bloc]

Originally posted by Clutch+Dec 12 2005, 07:37 PM--> (Clutch @ Dec 12 2005, 07:37 PM)
Eoin [email protected] 12 2005, 10:16 AM
Where are the leftist Aussies? Time to intervene I would say!
All eight of us? Sadly there ain't much of a left movement here, or not that I've seen anyway. [/b]
it's not very large but it's quite strong, i'd say, and growing.

there's a meeting at my uni tomorrow night to discuss measures to be taken.. i'm a little lost as to what can really be done though apart from simple symbolic gestures.

grrr

[Monty Cantsin]

What surprises me is the amount of support shown by general citizens for the rioters. From watching news media there seemed to be two groups those who were racists ideologically and those who were outraged by gang violence and lashed out at Middle Eastern people. It’s a kind of collective punishment which by you belonging to that ethnicity so you’re guilty also, which doesn’t help anyone it just continues the cycle. And the same goes for Middle Eastern rioters attacking random white people because the actions of a few which just brings a situation of mutual fear and hatred.

I don’t see how the problems going to be solved anytime soon though, seeing both sides have legitimate anger but are taking it into their own hands and carrying out collective punishment on each other.

[Eoin Dubh]

Originally posted by Clutch+Dec 12 2005, 08:37 AM--> (Clutch @ Dec 12 2005, 08:37 AM)
Eoin [email protected] 12 2005, 10:16 AM
Where are the leftist Aussies? Time to intervene I would say!
All eight of us? Sadly there ain't much of a left movement here, or not that I've seen anyway.[/b]
Man thats tragic! What about the trade Unions? Or the local district labour council?
How exactly did this start again? An attack on "life savers" I read, but why and what were the circumstances?
Sounds like the retaliation has begun!
Shots fired, one man down with head injuries, a girl beaten unconcious, etc.
NSW police scanner live stream:

http://speedy.akadns.info/streams/8000/sydneypolice.pls
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[ReD_ReBeL]

THIS NO WAY IS MY OPINION but... was talking to an Aussie girl last night and she was saying that 2 Lebs attacked an lifeguard that sparked some anger and also apparently Lebs treat aussie woman like shit, they threaten to rape Aussie woman because thy say that Aussie woman are sluts. THIS NO WAY REFLECTS FROM MY OPINION

[Eoin Dubh]

Girl beaten with golf club and robbed........
Roving groups in cars doing quick stop and smash of parked vehicles in the suburbs............

(sounds to be shaping up similiarly to France!)

Is Sydney GMT + 8 hours?

[Eoin Dubh]

SYDNEY erupted in a second night of racial violence last night as Middle Eastern mobs fired shots into the air, attacked women and smashed shops around Cronulla, while up to 600 young men - armed with guns and crowbars - prepared for a battle.

In a terrifying escalation of the conflict, up to 70 cars from Hurstville and possibly Lakemba invaded Cronulla and Brighton-le-Sands to launch revenge attacks, following the vicious attacks by Cronulla locals on people of Middle Eastern appearance on Sunday.


In Bay Street, Brighton-le-Sands, a young woman was sitting in a car when men approached and opened the door to her vehicle and put a hand up her dress, saying: "We are going to rape you, you Aussie sluts." A witness, Linda El-Hassan, 19, said a shot was fired at the woman's car but she was unhurt. Miss El-Hassan said she was Lebanese and opposed the violence. "We all came to this country and we are all one in this country."

The mobs vandalised cars and Bay Street was strewn with rubbish and a government bus was attacked and its back window smashed. At Lakemba Mosque earlier, a media crew had been involved in an altercation with some in the crowd about 7pm. A man is believed to have suffered a broken leg during a scuffle.

Islamic leaders tried to calm the crowd, imploring the men over a loudspeaker to go inside and pray. Outside the Maroubra Bay Hotel, police dressed in riot gear prepared for violence.

A Channel Seven reporter, Robert Ovadia, was surrounded by a group who menaced him, spat in his face, threatened to head-butt him and told him that the media had stirred up all the trouble. Ovadia called police, who sent a patrol car. The Herald's reporter at Maroubra retreated under a hail of water bombs.

Source Sydney Morning Herald: http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/armed-...4236005902.html (http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/armed-gangs-on-rampage/2005/12/12/1134236005902.html)

[Nathe]

man, its this type of shit that stops me from being proud to be aussie.

its fucking SHIT :angry: :angry: :angry:

and as far as i know, we're gmt + 10

keep the board posted about any anti-fascist, anti-racist rallies on in australia.
:(

[bolshevik butcher]

Well these events are sickening but I cant say altogether surprising, facist seniments have been brewing in Austrailia for a long time but they seem to have begin to burst out onto the streets. The only way to fight this is for the elft to start mobilizing in support of all the working class of all races.

[*PRC*Kensei]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2005, 08:31 PM
THIS NO WAY IS MY OPINION but... was talking to an Aussie girl last night and she was saying that 2 Lebs attacked an lifeguard that sparked some anger and also apparently Lebs treat aussie woman like shit, they threaten to rape Aussie woman because thy say that Aussie woman are sluts. THIS NO WAY REFLECTS FROM MY OPINION
hell yea, and cause 2 guys did this, the other side calls up 5000 MEN TO SMACH THE BRAINS OUT OF THEM ?

those racists have NO arguments for doing that. even if one of those "lebs" commited murder they should start race riots like this.

[*PRC*Kensei]

Originally posted by Eoin [email protected] 12 2005, 08:37 PM
Girl beaten with golf club and robbed........
Roving groups in cars doing quick stop and smash of parked vehicles in the suburbs............

(sounds to be shaping up similiarly to France!)

Is Sydney GMT + 8 hours?
not true...

in france they put cars on fire, and have riots vs police (suppreced immigrants + frensh workless people vs the systhem). they dint do drive-by-hit&shootings on people, it whas ager against the systhem, not against the people.

Frensh riots where somehow civilised, they knew what they are fighting for...
THIS is....rampaging...

[danny android]

I don't think I see the difference between this riot and the riots in France. In France there were riots sparked by racial differnce same is the case in Austrailia. I don't think you could really say that riots in france were at all "civilised" or that they were necesarrily all 'against the system.' Yes they attacked police but they also destroyed many civillian cars. How does it make since to burn civillians cars when you are 'fighting against the system.' In both cases in France and in Australia it was/is all just a mass rampage, with no real point or goal. Race riots do not bring the working class closer to freedom from the bourgeosie.

[Intifada]

One cannot compare the riots in France to these riots in Australia.

The French riots were never aimed at getting rid of ethnics, it was simply rage triggered by one event. The French rioters were pissed off at the poverty and racism they face everyday. The Australian racists are simply attacking people because of the colour of their skin, and origin.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

France was an anti-racist rebellion, Australia is a giant fanatical racist mob.

There's no relation.

[Entrails Konfetti]

Originally posted by Monty [email protected] 11 2005, 09:13 PM
Police said youths damaged cars in at least one nearby suburb and a man was stabbed after what a police spokesperson described as a short conversation with a "group of males of Mediterranean or Middle Eastern appearance".

The victim was hospitalised in serious condition.

It would be ironic if the victum happens to some sort of leftist.

[rioters bloc]

i think it's important to note that both sides are extremely racist, and it's simply deepening long standing divisions and hatreds between the two groups. of course, this isn't to say that all white australians and lebanese australians are racist towards one another, but there has definitely been a lot of tension for a while now. i'll try and sum up the situation as best i can and as objectively as i can.

so what happened at cronulla started with the assault of two lifeguards. an ‘ethnic’ teenager is currently under arrest for the assault. at first, it was believed that it was a completely random attack and the lifesavers were targeted because they were white. all week on talkback radio, callers called in to say how disgusting it was that ‘wogs’ can just take over their beaches and start harming innocent lifeguards etc, fuelling hatred. it has since come to light that the lifesavers actually provoked him, saying something along the lines of ‘we’re sick of saving you wogs from drowning, next time we’ll just let you die’.

but this wasn’t know by last sunday [and even if it was i doubt it would make much difference]. 5000 people converged, and got drunk, and when they saw some people of ‘middle eastern appaearance’ they went nuts on them, beating and kicking etc. that night, in retaliation at maroubra and brighton-le-sands beaches, gangs of ethnic people started smashing and burning cars, and stabbed a random man and then proceeded to tell the three women he was with that they were gonna be raped [they werent, thankfully].

since then, every night there have been riots in various parts of sydney. its spread to perth and adelaide [two of the most ‘white’ cities in australia].

the animosity that many white australians feel towards lebanese people [anyone of middle-eastern background really, just the lebanese communist is more visible in sydney] has been fuelled on by anti-muslim sentiments portrayed by the media since september 11. even though not all lebanese people are muslim, not by a long shot, it's a lot easier for people to just assume they are all muslim and hate them accordingly.

most lebanese families in sydney have been here for generations. but the clash of cultures is extreme, and so there still exists major identity crises in many lebanese youth, particularly male ones. i have quite a few lebanese friends, and what they all tell me is that many young lebanese-australian men they know do feel considerable contempt for white australians, for women, and for [i]white australian women in particular. this is not to say that all of them do, but too many grow up with this kind of mentality. what all the beachgoers at cronulla said was that they often went to the beach and stood their telling white women to put on clothes, calling them sluts, etc. unfortunately, this is very probably true.

this idea that all lebanese people are misogynistic was propagated through a string of gang rapes that occurred in i guess 1999-2003. they were pinned on young lebanese men, and one 20 year old was sentenced to 55 years jail [because rather than serving the separate services concurrently, the judge issued that they be served one after another]. my ex used to sit next to him in english, and was friends with his cousin, who admitted that he had known about the gang rapes as well as other rapes. and he explained to me that, for bilal at least and for many others too most likely, it was an issue of power. in their families they were taught to treat women as inferior, and taught that there own culture was superior to that of anyone else’s. according to bilal’s cousin, for a lot of people that he knew from his own community, when they went out of their own community and saw women with freedom to wear what they wanted, see who they wanted, sleep with who they wanted, it angered them beyond belief. and taunting them, threatening to rape them, and in the worst cases raping them were some of the ways they sought to exert the power they felt belonged to them. if you type in ‘lebanese rape’ into google the very first page is an australian one. if you type ‘lebanese gang rape’, all the sites that come up are australian.

what happened is that the media got hold of this information and twisted it to set alight a very volatile situation. it started to foster an even deeper hatred of lebanese people and people of middle eastern background [as they were seen as one homogenous group and synonymous with lebanese for most people].

while this stimgatisation and demonisation of the lebanese community continued, it was only natural that it should turn them even more against the ones who were doing the demonising. lebanese communities are fairly insular for the large part, same with almost all ethnic communities here. the white community down at cronulla is a particularly insular one [the whole southern shire is – they call it ‘god’s country’ and are proud of their whiteness]. neither community likes to be threatened by ‘the other’.

many young lebanese-australians men in sydney are so over-burdened with issues of identity that some of them not only reject australian society, but develop a sense of contempt and disgust for it. this is also due to australian society as a whole being rather racist [having been built on the basis of racism throughout the last 200 odd years]. white australians see this contempt, but don’t understand why, and don’t understand what a large role they themselves play in creating this contempt. many also can’t understand how hard it can be to adapt to a completely different culture, even when you and your parents and sometimes even your grandparents were born here. they say, ‘just learn the language, this is our country you have to follow our lifestyle and our culture’ and expect it to be as easy as all that.

the govt is treating this as a ‘law and order’ issue, and the whole media is framing this around stuff like, were there enough cops, what have the cops been doing, do we need more, etc. i’m so fucking sick of them denying that [b]this is a result of racism. im so sick of them pretending that australia’s a lovely ‘tolerant’ multicultral country. just fucking admit it and then do something about it. this isn’t just about random gangs. why do these gangs even [i]form? out of segregation and racism, and feeling superior about your ethnicty. all the gang wars in sydney are based on race! when will they finally admit this?

[Rockfan]

I might be the same thing happening in NZ in 10 or 15 years time. Hopefully we can avoded it, the labour movements prtty strong and they'ed all be against it, as long as we don't get racists in the forces we should be alright. The police force is prity Multi-Cultral anyway.