Death

[Noah]

Hey guys,

I want your views on something that has only sprung this year when I turned 14.

Basically, I'm not depressed (well not that I know of) and I don't cut myself or anything but I am constantly thinking about death.

Not my death but the people who are around me, especially old people.
For example, at night I sit around and think about how long my grandparents have left (all still alive so far) or when I sit on the bus next to an old person, I'm always asking myself how long they have left before they die. Or I sit and remember an old person what walked passed me a few weeks back and wonder about how they might be dead, it's just fascinates me sometimes (worryingly?)

I'm not sadistic, I don't enjoy to think about it, it just something that spring's to mind ALL THE TIME and worries me sick.

I even have had dreams, of my grandad dying in hospital and both my grandmas dying on the stairs.

Do you think this is natural to suddenly worry about grandparents now i'm getting older and know death is inevitable for them? Or do you think I have a psychological problem?

Thanks.
Noah

[Xvall]

Seems perfectly natural. I started thinking about death a lot around the same time as you, and still think about it routinely to this day. You don't have a psychological problem. Death is inevitable and it is good that you are tring to come to terms with it, even though I can guarentee that you won't until you face it yourself.

[Simotix]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2005, 07:00 PM
For example, at night I sit around and think about how long my grandparents have left (all still alive so far) or when I sit on the bus next to an old person, I'm always asking myself how long they have left before they die. Or I sit and remember an old person what walked passed me a few weeks back and wonder about how they might be dead, it's just fascinates me sometimes (worryingly?)
I wonder sort of like this, but I wonder what kind of impact they have had on society and if people will remember their story.

I live with my grandparents I can tell at times they are concerned, however, most of the time they just like everyone. Everyone once in a while they will complain about one anothers health saying they are worsening, but I always see them bounce back. My Grandpa's son recently came by (lives far away) and you can tell my Grandpa was proud and brought joy to him. Then again you can see one of my grandparents sort of depressing looking, but lets face it - they have been through a lot.

I do not dwindle on the fact of death, I dwindle on the fact or not of whethere I will make an difference. Nearly everyone of us here would like to help the world become a better place in some shape or form, I just hope I put a nice dent in the capitalists side before my time comes.

[ioncannon152]

I just hope I put a nice dent in the capitalists side before my time comes.

Rightly said!

Life and death are (in my opinion) two sides of the same coin. To be afraid of dying is to be afraid of living.

Knowing that you will someday die anyway might give you the courage needed to do incredible and unimaginable things.

[Simotix]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2005, 02:00 PM
Knowing that you will someday die anyway might give you the courage needed to do incredible and unimaginable things.
It is what fuels me.

[FidelCastro]

I don't want to die. I don't want to die because I don't want to live with the fact that i"ll never be able to enjoy music after that and it really pisses me off. I hope there is reincarnation.

[which doctor]

The chance that you are reicarnated on earth is next to nil. There are infinite other planets with life on them that you would most likey go to. And the chance that you would be an organism that is able to enjoy music is even more unlikely. I'm sorry to dash your hopes, but someone had to do it. And do not be suprised when you die and nothing happens. Oh wait, you won't know about that because your mind will be dead.

[Bannockburn]

Dude, don't worry about it. Death has always been apart of human development. From Socrates to Heidegger, to Derrida. In fact, for Heidegger we are beings towards death. Derrida asks to question if one can experience one's death. We can't and therefore death is always for the other. Thus, one does not become human until one is already half dead. Think of it as a development of your human and intellectual process rather than something to be worried about

[RebelOutcast]

Yeah, sounds pretty normal to me, that fact that we are mortal beings dawns on us all at some point in our lives, and according to one study (to which I cannot find a reference to at this point in time) death is one of the subjects which the human mind spends the most time thinking about, second only to sex!

[Forward Union]

fact that i"ll never be able to enjoy music after that and it really pisses me off

Then again, you wont realise your not enjoying music. So it's all good.

[Iroquois Xavier]

The only fear of death i have is that i wont have done enough before i do. :mellow:

[hemybel]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2005, 07:16 PM
Hey guys,

I want your views on something that has only sprung this year when I turned 14.

Basically, I'm not depressed (well not that I know of) and I don't cut myself or anything but I am constantly thinking about death.

Not my death but the people who are around me, especially old people.
For example, at night I sit around and think about how long my grandparents have left (all still alive so far) or when I sit on the bus next to an old person, I'm always asking myself how long they have left before they die. Or I sit and remember an old person what walked passed me a few weeks back and wonder about how they might be dead, it's just fascinates me sometimes (worryingly?)

I'm not sadistic, I don't enjoy to think about it, it just something that spring's to mind ALL THE TIME and worries me sick.

I even have had dreams, of my grandad dying in hospital and both my grandmas dying on the stairs.

Do you think this is natural to suddenly worry about grandparents now i'm getting older and know death is inevitable for them? Or do you think I have a psychological problem?

Thanks.
Noah
A well spent life is long enough. Keep yourself busy, let the dead bury their dead. :unsure:


Existentialism is a philosophical movement that views human existence as having a set of underlying themes and characteristics, such as anxiety, dread, freedom, awareness of death, and consciousness of existing, that are primary. That is, they cannot be reduced to or be explained by a natural-scientific approach or any approach that attempts to detach itself from or rise above these themes.

Continue searching for truth....

[red team]

Because as long as the Human race exists, future generations would reap the benefits of our work, just like I benefitted from the work done by our ancestors whose altruism extended across generations. What this is really about is the irrational fear of death which is really a discontinuity in self awareness if you think about it. What makes us human is our experiences not because we are somehow unique because of our self identity. Fear of death makes about as much sense as fear of being born because "I" could just as well experience life as someone born in the future if "I" cease to exists now. I don't fear loss of my self identity which comes along with death nor do I fear the discontinuity of self awareness which comes from the natural passing of human generations.


Note: I as in who I am right now would really be afraid of being born if the idiots we call leaders really messes things up for humanity. Imagine gaining self-awareness as someone born in a nuclear wasteland. :(

[( R )evolution]

I have been thinking about this as well because of my friends sucidie. It was a week ago and I just thought about all the things that were going on. And I soon realized that we must act now or it will be too late and we will all be dead and how willl contuine to the pass the knoweldge of communism/socialism/anarchism. We know right-wing cappie's wont ever enlight there citizens about the wrongs in its society.

[red team]

Originally posted by Fist of [email protected] 22 2005, 02:13 AM
The chance that you are reicarnated on earth is next to nil. There are infinite other planets with life on them that you would most likey go to. And the chance that you would be an organism that is able to enjoy music is even more unlikely. I'm sorry to dash your hopes, but someone had to do it. And do not be suprised when you die and nothing happens. Oh wait, you won't know about that because your mind will be dead.
Yeah, but unintelligent organisms are not self-aware anyway so you wouldn't even be able to realize that you can't enjoy music. You wouldn't even be able to realize that you're rolling around in your own excrement if you don't have the intelligence to be self-aware, so its not an issue if you don't have the brain capacity anyhow. :lol:

The only reason why this bothers you right now is because you are intelligent enough to be aware of your own situation, but would you rather be stupid and not know about it? Personally I like intelligence and self-awareness even if it is temporary.

[leftist resistance]

Perhaps you should spend more time with your grandparents.so that they may enjoy life to the fullest.

Death is part of life.everything that live will die.its the cold truth :(

[Vladislav]

you die, you did what you did.
Just make sure you do something for communism before dying ;)

When you die you go into a eternal sleep and you may have good dreams and you may have nightmares.

100th post woohoo.

[Led Zeppelin]

When you die you go into a eternal sleep and you may have good dreams and you may have nightmares.


What nonsense.

When you die you're dead, you don't dream, you don't have nightmares, you cease to exist, period.

[Sentinel]

My father died very recently, and my grandfather last fall. However, I don't feel capable to react to that in any remarkable way. I feel almost nothing, and it almost scares me in itself.. I'm a devout atheist, and "should" be depressed now.

Maybe I just realize the definity of death? We often fear death until someone close to us actually dies. That can make us realise how natural it is.


Death is part of life.everything that live will die.its the cold truth

Exactly my point.

[Goatse]

It's not as fun as it sounds.

[Sentinel]

It's not as fun as it sounds.

It's not fun at all, but it is a fact we must accept. My point is that once we do, we'll
feel better about it. It also encourages us to struggle for better living conditions while we are alive.

Even though eternal life would be to prefer, it's not possible for us at least yet.
I, myself, also I find the thought of oblivion kind of comforting.

I'm sure many older people do too (I'm only 25), since they get tired of the troubles of this life, and the fear of death gets smaller in our last years.

[anomaly]

Death is just a part of life, and it is inevitable. But we do have somewhere around 70 years of life, on the average. So why not enjoy the time we have rather than fear the inevitable? Fearing won't stop death, so why fear?

[red team]

You wouldn't be able to live forever even if your body is capable of lasting forever and not age. Your brain like everything else that is made up of physical matter is finite. You've got a fixed number of brain cells in your head which keeps on recording the experiences of your every waking moment. Given that is true suppose you physically existed for 200 years, but because your brain is finite you've overwritten the experiences and knowledge that you had for the first 20 years that you've became self-aware so you can't remember them. Let's say the life experiences that you had from 2 years old to 22 years old. If that's true could it be really said that you've lived for 200 years or would it be more accurate to say that you've existed for 200 years, but only lived for the last 180 years. Living forever is impossible even if you don't age.

[Ligeia]

I've worked or better assisted in a hopital once....in a section where the nurses visit people in their homes when their relatives don't want them to live in a hospital or other institutions and so the nurses look after them every day and bring them food or wash them...or whatever..depens on their state of being,their illness.

Most people I saw were old (at least over 50),I saw only once autistic children....well,anyway,as I saw them unable to do anything ,at all,just lying in bed and staring at the wall or constantly forgetting things ,getting angry or just wanting to talk to someone but well,most were unable to do anything,I thought that is not life,thats rotting life,you are treated like a pet or a thing and you have nothing you could do about it,and who knows if you even notice anything.

That was the point when I thought I don't want to get old ,before this experience I thought I better live long but considering what could happen I better wish another end but nobody can predict the future with certainity.

[Vladislav]

What nonsense.

When you die you're dead, you don't dream, you don't have nightmares, you cease to exist, period.


I know,but I still like to think that.

[vox_populi]

When you die you're dead, you don't dream, you don't have nightmares, you cease to exist, period.

I wonder how that would/will feel.

I am studying some philosphy at my school at the moment. And it has really made me think about the existential questions. And the afterlife is one of the most intriguing! Because there is no way of predicting how it will feel and no one can describe it for you.

[which doctor]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 11:38 AM

When you die you're dead, you don't dream, you don't have nightmares, you cease to exist, period.

I wonder how that would/will feel.
Well, it would feel like nothing. It would feel how you felt before you were born, remember that feeling? Probaly not because it was nothing.

[vox_populi]

What I mean is it's impossible to imagine how the end of your consciousness would/will feel. When you faint, you might remember your unconscious period because it's like a blank spot in your memory. But when you die you never regain consciousness again...you never wake up...just trying to imagine it is beyond our recognision...so maybe I should stop thinking about it :D

[Abood]

If i wasn't scared of death i wouldve probably killed myself by now, especially this week... i had the shittiest week ever.


When you die you're dead, you don't dream, you don't have nightmares, you cease to exist, period.
how would u know? u never died did u?! then that remains a theory. ;)

[dusk]

I have the same problem.
but with me it's about my parents.
I imagine myself beeing on my mothers funeral.
And sometimes on the strangest moments I realize:
I'M GONNA DIE!
Maybe not today maybe not tomorrow.
But one day I will, and I can't avoid it.
It is very hard for me to realize that sometimes.