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FidelCastro
5th December 2005, 02:56
Personally, I'm a hardcore Marxist-Leninist. I think it is important to stick my the original ideas. As Marxist I am, there are some things from Totalitarian such as secret police and constant surveillence. Totalitarian goverments are great for economic growth. I am not a Capitalist but I do belive a country as a whole should have a good economic foundation to survive in the world. Profits can be put towards things that matter such as health-care and education and the maintainence of the country.
My question is, what kind of a left person are you?
Amusing Scrotum
5th December 2005, 03:33
I am a emancipated working class man. Therefore I want proletarian democracy and I oppose everything that opposes this goal. From Capitalism to Maoism.
Though I am best described as a Left Communist, with Anarchist leanings.
As Marxist I am, there are some things from Totalitarian such as secret police and constant surveillence.
You are for these things? :huh:
If you want these things so badly, then I'm sure you could find them in places like Saudi Arabia.
Totalitarian goverments are great for economic growth.
:angry:
Yeah, forced work is usually great for a countries economy. Though it is not what the "left" promotes.
I am not a Capitalist but I do belive a country as a whole should have a good economic foundation to survive in the world. Profits can be put towards things that matter such as health-care and education and the maintainence of the country.
You sound like a Capitalist and you are not a Marxist.
Correa
5th December 2005, 03:34
I consider myself a traditional Marxist. Statisticaly vanguards have resulted in disasters and as a result I reject Leninism, altough Lenin's works are most interesting and there is much to be learned from the man.
rioters bloc
5th December 2005, 03:47
fidel castro, this sounds like you're supporting capitalism to me
http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php...st&p=1291978543 (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=40965&view=findpost&p=1291978543)
Originally posted by FidelCastro+--> (FidelCastro)
NWOG
Don't buy CD's or computer games
Download them instead. Not only do you save money, but you are not giving your money away to large corporations.
Lately, I have downloaded two games, Starcraft with the expansion pack, and Rise of Nations. Starcraft was a little blurry the first 20 seconds or so, but now it is fine. Rise of Nations, I downloaded it, and only slight, very slight problems with the sound once in a while. I've also downloaded some very good movies. You don't have to rent or buy a movie anymore. CD's.. I maybe buy one CD a year. Why waste money on a CD, when you can get it for free? Imagine how much money you could save. It's a reason why corporations are so much against file sharing.
Editing Wikipedia
Wikipedia is a very popular site. When you are searching for something, you are likely to see a link to Wikipedia on the first page. So do what you can, and edit, at least once in a while.
These are just a few things you could do in front of your computer.
Anyone else?
Woah, We need to support these corporations so that they can give us more. What we should do, is to not pay for public books and music. [/b]
supporting corporations so they can give us more?
btw, you sound stalinist - totalitarian governments? what the?
edit: tags
Scars
5th December 2005, 04:09
What am I? Social-Marxist. Influenced Left Communism, Council Communism, Situationism and 20th Century French Marxism (Althusser etc) as well as pre-Marx writers, particularly Rousseau.
DisIllusion
5th December 2005, 04:53
Hardline Marxist. As in the four-step plan.
1)Revolution
2)Stable, Collective State
3)Socialism (gradually killing off the State)
4)Free Communism
Not a Leninist as I don't take "dictatorship of the proletariat" literally, as in a one proletarian being a dictator.
edit: Proletariat to Proletarian, thanks comrade Luis.
SonofRage
5th December 2005, 07:19
I consider myself an Anarchist Communist, but I have been influenced by Marxist-Humanism, Autonomist Marxism, Council Communism, and the Situationists.
Commie Rat
5th December 2005, 07:42
Anarchist socially but i belive in marxism ecinomically
Lamanov
5th December 2005, 14:39
Marxist, against all forms of Leninism and authoritarianism.
Best described as a Left Communist (Council), open to Anarcho-Communism, revolutionary Industrial-Syndicalism etc.
I believe that "the greatest enemy of revolutionary science is the revolutionary ideology"... and "revolutionary" ideologists. :lol:
YKTMX
5th December 2005, 16:36
Dirty Trot.
Ymir
5th December 2005, 16:45
Originally posted by FidelCastro
Personally, I'm a hardcore Marxist-Leninist. I think it is important to stick my the original ideas. As Marxist I am, there are some things from Totalitarian such as secret police and constant surveillence. Totalitarian goverments are great for economic growth. I am not a Capitalist but I do belive a country as a whole should have a good economic foundation to survive in the world. Profits can be put towards things that matter such as health-care and education and the maintainence of the country.
My question is, what kind of a left person are you?
Most basically, a Marxist. I have been heavily influenced by the thoughts of Lenin and some others, although I don't claim to be in favor of everything they did. I believe that socialism will need a powerful working-class run state apparatus, but criminality should be dealt with by vigilant citizens at the local level. One could say I am in favor of "totalitarianism" in that the state should organize all levels of society, be they economic, political, or cultural. That is, a "totalitarian-democratic workers' state." It is not to be confused with "totalitarian-fascism" or "totalitarian-oligarchism" in which the bourgeois or the elites command the state. One must draw certain distinctions.
Yeah, forced work is usually great for a countries economy. Though it is not what the "left" promotes.
Article 60
It is the duty of, and matter of honor for, every able-bodied citizen of the USSR to work conscientiously in his chosen, socially useful occupation, and strictly to observe labor discipline. Evasion of socially useful work is incompatible with the principles of socialist society.
-Constitution of the USSR
LuĂs Henrique
5th December 2005, 16:46
Not a Leninist as I don't take "dictatorship of the proletariat" literally, as in a one proletariat being a dictator.
Oh please.
"ProletariaT" is a class. One individual of such class is a "proletariaN".
Literally, "dictatorship of the proletariat" means dictatorship of a class, not of an individual. In this sense of the word, the American, or the Swedish governments are "dictatorships of the bourgeoisie", even if they are not "dictatorships" in the common usage sense. "Dictatorship of the proletariat" does not mean police spies, torture, censorship. It means the proletariat, as a class, rules society. If you are against the concept, fine, but, please, don't be against it because you believe it means something completely different than it actually means!
Luís Henrique
ReD_ReBeL
5th December 2005, 17:08
i would probably say im a leftist-populist, since i believe in doing the best for the common people and not any eliteists, and i reject any sort of dictatorship even for the proletariat as thy put to many restrictions on peoples personal lifes in most cases such as Stalin and most other Soviet dictators, and believe every humanbeing should be able to vote for which government they want by using a One Person One vote system where it doesnt favour the big parties nor small parties its just balanced. yes i admire Lenin and Marx and even Fidel but personally thats not the way i would run things
Forward Union
5th December 2005, 17:12
Originally posted by
[email protected] 5 2005, 03:07 AM
Personally, I'm a hardcore Marxist-Leninist. I think it is important to stick my the original ideas. As Marxist I am, there are some things from Totalitarian such as secret police and constant surveillence. Totalitarian goverments are great for economic growth. I am not a Capitalist but I do belive a country as a whole should have a good economic foundation to survive in the world. Profits can be put towards things that matter such as health-care and education and the maintainence of the country.
My question is, what kind of a left person are you?
Both Marx and Lenin would be disgusted to know that people like you (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?act=ST&f=34&t=43256&st=0#entry1291980086) call yourselves Marxist-Leninists.
Im Anarchist-Communist
viva le revolution
5th December 2005, 17:17
Marxist-Leninist with leanings towards Maoism.
Amusing Scrotum
5th December 2005, 17:24
Yeah, forced work is usually great for a countries economy. Though it is not what the "left" promotes.
Article 60
It is the duty of, and matter of honor for, every able-bodied citizen of the USSR to work conscientiously in his chosen, socially useful occupation, and strictly to observe labor discipline. Evasion of socially useful work is incompatible with the principles of socialist society.
-Constitution of the USSR
Did you not read what you posted. Nowhere in that quote does it say you will be forced to work.
Though, Russia was hardly a "bastion" of the left wing and therefore I doubt pay much attention to anything that was said there.
Ymir
5th December 2005, 19:07
Originally posted by Armchair Socialist+--> (Armchair Socialist)Did you not read what you posted. Nowhere in that quote does it say you will be forced to work.[/b]
Of course it doesn't! That's because work in a socialist society is a prerequisite of being a citizen, thus:
Evasion of socially useful work is incompatible with the principles of socialist society.
If one does not work, he is a drain on the people.
Article 14
(1) The source of the growth of social wealth and of the well-being of the people, and of each individual, is the labor, free from exploitation, of Soviet people.
(2) The state exercises control over the measure of labor and of consumption in accordance with the principle of socialism: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his work". It fixes the rate of taxation on taxable income.
(3) Socially useful work and its results determine a person's status in society. By combining material and moral incentives and encouraging innovation and a creative attitude to work, the state helps transform labor into the prime vital need of every Soviet citizen.
So basically, if you have the ability to work and you don't, you won't get the support of the state. This obviously doesn't apply to invalids and those with mental or physical handicaps.
Armchair Socialism
Though, Russia was hardly a "bastion" of the left wing and therefore I doubt pay much attention to anything that was said there.
...You know they achieved the closest thing to economic equality ever realized, correct? For better or worse, the USSR was as much as socialism managed to achieve, even if it ended as a horribly corrupt and twisted.
Delirium
5th December 2005, 19:34
I am comparitivly (to the rest of you) an economic moderate, I am generally a democratic socialist with very strong Green leanings. I am very anti-authoritarian and i believe our rights as humans are a priority over any economic policy. Evolution V. Revolution is a question that i have yet to decide upon.
FidelCastro
5th December 2005, 22:08
I never said I was in favor of forced labor nor did I say we should make people clean everything. All I said was, people will clean the streets when they get tired of living in filth. I don't belive in forced labour at all and that is one of my biggest critisisms. I know forcing people to do something never gets anything accomplished, my parents force me to study but I don't really want to study and I end up slacking off because of it. When I do feel the need to study, I do study and I don't slack off and I do better. I belive in constant surveilliance so people do not get hurt and I am a person who is open to constructive critisism. I don't like Mao and I don't like Stalin either, ditto for Pol Pot. They hurt alot of people and should be crucified for it.
Publius
5th December 2005, 22:55
Is "The bouncy kind" a valid answer?
BattleOfTheCowshed
6th December 2005, 01:37
I am a Marxist-Leninist-Trotskyist. Despite the possible objections of others on this board, I consider myself a Libertarian Marxist. I believe that a Vanguard Party is not only the most practical form of revolution but also one which will ensure that the desires of the working class are fought for regardless of any bureacratic events or party politics. I believe the Dictatorship of the Proletariat is also necessary after the revolution to ensure the rule of the proletariat. I don't believe liberties would be compromised under any of these sytems (in fact they would be greatly enhanced). I believe in the eventual dissolution of the state as well.
DisIllusion
6th December 2005, 04:11
Originally posted by Luís
[email protected] 5 2005, 08:57 AM
Not a Leninist as I don't take "dictatorship of the proletariat" literally, as in a one proletariat being a dictator.
Oh please.
"ProletariaT" is a class. One individual of such class is a "proletariaN".
Literally, "dictatorship of the proletariat" means dictatorship of a class, not of an individual. In this sense of the word, the American, or the Swedish governments are "dictatorships of the bourgeoisie", even if they are not "dictatorships" in the common usage sense. "Dictatorship of the proletariat" does not mean police spies, torture, censorship. It means the proletariat, as a class, rules society. If you are against the concept, fine, but, please, don't be against it because you believe it means something completely different than it actually means!
Luís Henrique
My bad.
I just don't like how Lenin centralized the state and made it so powerful. Maybe it's my anarchist side speaking out, but I believe that the State should be dissolved as soon as possible when in the process of Socialism.
celticfire
6th December 2005, 14:13
I hate freedom of speech, democracy, and choice.
I think everyone should do what Bob Avakian tells him they should do.
(Just kidding! :lol:)
I am Marxist-Leninist-Maoist and currently a big fan of the Revolutionary Community Party. But I admit I got a crush on Rosa Luxemburg... :wub:
Zingu
6th December 2005, 14:27
Plain old Marxist, even though I'm something of a closet Council Communist.
My ideas for revolution could be pretty much summed up in the Paris Commune.
Forward Union
6th December 2005, 15:42
Originally posted by
[email protected] 5 2005, 10:19 PM
I never said I was in favor of forced labor nor did I say we should make people clean everything. All I said was, people will clean the streets when they get tired of living in filth. I don't belive in forced labour at all and that is one of my biggest critisisms. I know forcing people to do something never gets anything accomplished, my parents force me to study but I don't really want to study and I end up slacking off because of it. When I do feel the need to study, I do study and I don't slack off and I do better. I belive in constant surveilliance so people do not get hurt and I am a person who is open to constructive critisism. I don't like Mao and I don't like Stalin either, ditto for Pol Pot. They hurt alot of people and should be crucified for it.
Thank's for ignoring my critisism.
I'm the red under your bed
6th December 2005, 17:38
Totalitarian socialist.I see that democracy is flawed.I dont like it.But i hate fasicm and im a strong beliver in social justice.
citizen_snips
9th December 2005, 19:32
I consider myself marxist and have respect for other socialist thinkers and leaders (but reservations too).
Definitely not stalinist.
Simotix
12th December 2005, 02:39
Originally posted by
[email protected] 5 2005, 02:56 AM
I think it is important to stick my the original ideas.
It is important to be accepting to other ideas, you may grow in to better ideas.
Woah, We need to support these corporations so that they can give us more. What we should do, is to not pay for public books and music.
Coporations will just thik it is a "hot product" and charge more in the long run.
James
12th December 2005, 13:01
Totalitarian socialist.I see that democracy is flawed.I dont like it.But i hate fasicm and im a strong beliver in social justice.
Surely though, with totalitarianism there is also fascism. Indeed, you merely state that you are a "socialist". What kind may i ask? Aslo, what do you think are the chances that your perception of socialism is the same as others? (which has issues regarding whether you can/should enforce your will on others, and vice versa, are you prepared to submit to a system of totaltarian rule? By definition, it is total. thus if it goes a way you don't like, you can't do anything). How would you influence the executive, if there is no democracy?
What is social justice too? Surely it is a matter of defintion; like "the common good".
Not "having a go" at you. Just interested in people whom believe in totalitarianism.
DisIllusion
15th December 2005, 02:59
Originally posted by
[email protected] 12 2005, 05:01 AM
Totalitarian socialist.I see that democracy is flawed.I dont like it.But i hate fasicm and im a strong beliver in social justice.
Surely though, with totalitarianism there is also fascism. Indeed, you merely state that you are a "socialist". What kind may i ask? Aslo, what do you think are the chances that your perception of socialism is the same as others? (which has issues regarding whether you can/should enforce your will on others, and vice versa, are you prepared to submit to a system of totaltarian rule? By definition, it is total. thus if it goes a way you don't like, you can't do anything). How would you influence the executive, if there is no democracy?
What is social justice too? Surely it is a matter of defintion; like "the common good".
Not "having a go" at you. Just interested in people whom believe in totalitarianism.
Wouldn't totalitarianism require somebody to be the head (dictator?) of a strong, centralized State? And to take away most rights from it's citizens? Maybe i've read too much 1984, but it never seemed that totalitarianism is such a good idea, since it brushes with fascism.
Ultra-Violence
15th December 2005, 05:10
i my self am left communism as well with anarchist tendencies!
:)
C_Rasmussen
15th December 2005, 05:31
I'm not quite sure seeing as I do have a firm belief in God and am Christian but I dont go around forcing my beliefs on others. I believe in complete freedom, I hate police and ALL law enforcement that dont know how to do their job properly, I believe that everyone SHOULD be equal and people SHOULD NOT be discriminated against based on anything. I HATE that people think everything should have to do with money. Can someone please tell me what I am?
Amusing Scrotum
15th December 2005, 18:54
Originally posted by
[email protected] 15 2005, 05:31 AM
I'm not quite sure seeing as I do have a firm belief in God and am Christian but I dont go around forcing my beliefs on others. I believe in complete freedom, I hate police and ALL law enforcement that dont know how to do their job properly, I believe that everyone SHOULD be equal and people SHOULD NOT be discriminated against based on anything. I HATE that people think everything should have to do with money. Can someone please tell me what I am?
Anti Fucking Social. :lol:
dannie
15th December 2005, 23:10
i would probably be anarcho-communist or whatever it's called, don't like labels that much, don't care too much for 'em eather (sp?)
Glasgow
19th December 2005, 13:17
As I am not as well read up as some of the posters. I could not Label my self anything but a comunist in the spirit of che.
danny android
20th December 2005, 02:14
I'm an anarchist-communist. Probobly more of an anarchist.
Ele'ill
22nd December 2005, 03:48
I'm a restricted member leftist.
violencia.Proletariat
22nd December 2005, 04:27
Originally posted by danny
[email protected] 19 2005, 10:14 PM
I'm an anarchist-communist. Probobly more of an anarchist.
that doesnt make any sense
Dr. Rosenpenis
22nd December 2005, 06:11
Originally posted by
[email protected] 4 2005, 11:53 PM
Hardline Marxist. As in the four-step plan.
1)Revolution
2)Stable, Collective State
3)Socialism (gradually killing off the State)
4)Free Communism
Not a Leninist as I don't take "dictatorship of the proletariat" literally, as in a one proletarian being a dictator.
edit: Proletariat to Proletarian, thanks comrade Luis.
That's not what a dictatorship of the proletariat is.
A dictatorship of the proletariat is a class society in which the working class wields power with the aim of suppressing reaction and protecting socialism. The goal here is communism, a classless society, which is therefore void of class antagonisms and is peacefull, which according to Karl Marx, mean the absence of opposition to socialism.
edit: I see this has already been pointed out
okay thanks
bye
Bugalu Shrimp
22nd December 2005, 13:39
Left back, behind the goal posts
Kamerat Voldstad
24th December 2005, 02:09
I am a Marxist, in that I support the principles and goals, and I agree with Marx' and Engels' outline of the process we have to go through. But I am pragmatical insofar as I believe, consistent with Marxism, that our situation always changes, and therefore also our tasks for reaching our goals. Therefore I accept the wisdom of Lenin and such as well as good old Marx, but my relationship to all these thinkers is one in which I look to them for guidance, not answers. The answers we must find ourselves, as we review our current situation and compare it to the ones before, and the wisdom that came our of those.
I think that under some cicumstances, dictatorship might be the best way. This sounds kind of elitist, but in a society where people lack education and proper living, a dictatorship by the learned who seeks the interest of the whole people may be much better than setting up a democracy for politically ignorant people - the building blocks of democracy must be laid first. But on the other hand: We've seen the danger this involves. And maybe the people matures better through immiediate democracy rather than a gradual democracy. But then again: It worked on Cuba!
Anyway, we definitly, no matter where and when we are, pinned under capitalism or feudalism, need that revolution and the implementation of Socialism, driving us towards a brave new world in the future it creates. How this revoltuion and this socialism will look like, though...
So in the end: I'm simply, and I think one should simply be, a Communist, that tries to apply his principles and the wisdom he has learned to the current situation.
More Fire for the People
24th December 2005, 02:21
I'm a pro-Stalin post-materialist Marxist with Luxemburgist tendencies, or in other words I make stuff up as I go.
Hopes_Guevara
24th December 2005, 03:47
A Marxist-Leninist, trying not to get dogmatic.
BorisB
24th December 2005, 18:08
I am a Leninist. With strong Bolshevist leanings. Great Communist periods an states are the USSR of the 1960s and Cuba under Fidel.
Zeruzo
24th December 2005, 18:27
i'm anti-revisionist marxist-leninist
which doctor
24th December 2005, 18:34
I am myelf, nothing more, nothing less.
Ownthink
24th December 2005, 18:41
I'm Marxist/Communist.
Without Dialectics.
Ele'ill
24th December 2005, 20:29
I'm a free thinker. I don't trust labels and names. I simply refuse to be somebody elses tool.
weazbert
25th December 2005, 02:01
Originally posted by
[email protected] 24 2005, 06:41 PM
I'm Marxist/Communist.
Without Dialectics.
wait a minute. How does that work out?
the dialectic is essential to Marxism.
Ownthink
25th December 2005, 02:04
Originally posted by weazbert+Dec 24 2005, 09:01 PM--> (weazbert @ Dec 24 2005, 09:01 PM)
[email protected] 24 2005, 06:41 PM
I'm Marxist/Communist.
Without Dialectics.
wait a minute. How does that work out?
the dialectic is essential to Marxism. [/b]
I know, that's why I posted it :P
No, really. I am a Marxist.
Purple
25th December 2005, 03:23
I consider myself far left. I have not taken a specific stand towards either communism or socialism as I think that each of them would be best suitable in different relations. All I want is to give people knowledge about how things work, what is the most sensible(after their ideas not mine, even tough I gladly contribute with my knowledge).
My basic beliefs are that classism is what is seperating society, and even tough individual achievement should be rewarded, there shouldnt be such a gap between both opportunity and salary amongst the economical classes!
ComTom
25th December 2005, 16:11
I consider myself, just a simple "leftist". I fail to find a appropiate ideology really, I like to just call myself a Marxist. I hate to stick to the "trotskyist" and all the other view points, I think that every aspect of communism has certain beliefs.
Enragé
25th December 2005, 19:58
I am best described as a trotskyist
and yes i think a vanguard is necessary, why? There is no way around it. Anarchists are a vanguard as well, even if they dont want to be.
Anarchism would be great, if it worked, though i dont think its realistic that utopia will break out a second after the revolution, there will be unrest, foreign interventions etc...therefore we need a state. The transition to communism/anarchism should be as quick as possible though.
ComTom
25th December 2005, 20:14
Yes, I love the idea of Anarchism, but there needs to be steps before we achieve the utopia of a "classless soceity".
Enragé
25th December 2005, 20:19
Originally posted by
[email protected] 25 2005, 08:14 PM
Yes, I love the idea of Anarchism, but there needs to be steps before we achieve the utopia of a "classless soceity".
the need for defence of the revolution makes it that we cannot have utopia within seconds after the rev.
violencia.Proletariat
26th December 2005, 00:15
Originally posted by
[email protected] 25 2005, 03:58 PM
I am best described as a trotskyist
and yes i think a vanguard is necessary, why? There is no way around it. Anarchists are a vanguard as well, even if they dont want to be.
Anarchism would be great, if it worked, though i dont think its realistic that utopia will break out a second after the revolution, there will be unrest, foreign interventions etc...therefore we need a state. The transition to communism/anarchism should be as quick as possible though.
anarchists are not a vanguard in the leninist sense. therfore you little title makes no sense. they way anarchists and marxists alike are a "vanguard" is that they already accept the revolutionary ideas. but we dont lead people. the proletariat will lead itself.
anarchists dont argue for a utopia. we also dont predict communism instantley after a revolution. we just see that the state is unecessary in order for a dictatorship of the proletariat.
Enragé
26th December 2005, 02:04
my title is meant to make no sense
look im all for doing away with the transitionary period (hence the anarchist) but it wont work because we will have to have some people as (elected, controlled) leaders to make quick decisions in times of crisis (hence the leninist)
violencia.Proletariat
26th December 2005, 04:13
Originally posted by
[email protected] 25 2005, 10:04 PM
my title is meant to make no sense
look im all for doing away with the transitionary period (hence the anarchist) but it wont work because we will have to have some people as (elected, controlled) leaders to make quick decisions in times of crisis (hence the leninist)
since when are leninist party leaders elected? :lol:
what kind of crisis are you talking about, and why do we need representatives to make decisions about it?
Enragé
26th December 2005, 14:05
Originally posted by nate+Dec 26 2005, 04:13 AM--> (nate @ Dec 26 2005, 04:13 AM)
[email protected] 25 2005, 10:04 PM
my title is meant to make no sense
look im all for doing away with the transitionary period (hence the anarchist) but it wont work because we will have to have some people as (elected, controlled) leaders to make quick decisions in times of crisis (hence the leninist)
since when are leninist party leaders elected? :lol:
what kind of crisis are you talking about, and why do we need representatives to make decisions about it? [/b]
well the trotskyist kind maybe? At least THE trotskyist org i know over here is extremely democratic like that.
What crises? Well famine for instance, or war.
CCCPneubauten
27th December 2005, 04:42
I really don't have a damn clue.
Half the time I consider myself a Red Anarchist.
Other times a democratic socialist.
I don't know if the utopia of Anarcho-communism would ever world in the global stage.
vengefulcraigie
3rd January 2006, 05:57
I'm only left-of-center. I still think that capitalism can be tamed through peaceful political change. I think the wealthy and working classes can still function together in society. We just need to change the rules; not overthrow the system to begin with Year 1. I am an active member of the US Democratic Party but I am increasingly feeling lost. The Democratic Party has become a den for dollar-chasing whores who kowtow to the Big Business agenda. The Democrats are merging with the Republicans when it comes to the free trade, economic globalization agenda.
I supported Ralph Nader in the 2000 election...that felt good!
Enragé
3rd January 2006, 15:40
Originally posted by
[email protected] 3 2006, 06:06 AM
I supported Ralph Nader in the 2000 election...that felt good!
:o you are sooooooooooooooooo rebellious :o
unite2fight1984
4th January 2006, 01:47
Originally posted by
[email protected] 3 2006, 01:08 AM
I'm only left-of-center. I still think that capitalism can be tamed through peaceful political change. I think the wealthy and working classes can still function together in society. We just need to change the rules; not overthrow the system to begin with Year 1. I am an active member of the US Democratic Party but I am increasingly feeling lost. The Democratic Party has become a den for dollar-chasing whores who kowtow to the Big Business agenda. The Democrats are merging with the Republicans when it comes to the free trade, economic globalization agenda.
I supported Ralph Nader in the 2000 election...that felt good!
The American left is tamed by the process. Take a look at history, the most revolutionary change happens when government becomes the strictist. Political viewpoints swing left and right as time passes until that society collapses.
red team
4th January 2006, 09:24
Cybernetic Socialist as I don't think we're nearly at the technical level we need to be to achieve anything resembling Socialism right now.
http://www.dominic.lopez.net/cyber.html
Class conflict will continue as well as comforting fairy tales for adults (religion) will continue until we achieve material abundance with minimal manual effort. Not likely right now. Not even close.
I am also an Avakianist (they're not really strict classical Maoists anymore) sympathiser.
Red Team
sukirti
5th January 2006, 17:50
marxist leninist..i am of the old school . ibelieve in the pary , the ddictatorship of the proletariat
Donnie
5th January 2006, 18:28
I'm Anarchist Communist. A follower of Kropotkin and Malatesta. :)
Entrails Konfetti
5th January 2006, 23:32
Traditional Marxism to me seems to = Council-Communism.
The whole thing with Anarchism and Marxism just seems to have started when Marx and Bakunin got into fights about who started what first, and who has the better names for this and that -- its all really the same to me.
Re-visionist 05
6th January 2006, 01:09
im a libertarian socialist all the way.
omegaflare
6th January 2006, 03:39
I generally consider myself to be an anarcho-communist, but I do agree with some/a lot of the views of Marxism, Anarchism, Libertarian Socialism, and Trotskyism.
poetofrageX
6th January 2006, 07:01
Straight up Marxist, with strong Trotskyist tendencies(worldwide revolution, fuck peaceful co-existance with capitalism), and a little Maoism. I believe Che was the example of the perfect Communist revolutionary. And of course, 100% Zapatista-supporter and Marcos fanboy.
Zingu
7th January 2006, 19:08
I think I turned into an Anarcho-Syndaclist overnight :huh:
DoomedOne
8th January 2006, 12:34
I'm a revolutionary Progressive.
Ownthink
8th January 2006, 17:11
Originally posted by
[email protected] 8 2006, 07:45 AM
I'm a revolutionary Progressive.
:blink: How does that work? Revolutionary and Progressive at the same time?
JKP
8th January 2006, 19:08
Originally posted by Ownthink+Jan 8 2006, 09:22 AM--> (Ownthink @ Jan 8 2006, 09:22 AM)
[email protected] 8 2006, 07:45 AM
I'm a revolutionary Progressive.
:blink: How does that work? Revolutionary and Progressive at the same time? [/b]
Progressive is just the opposite of reactionary.
ReD_ReBeL
8th January 2006, 19:08
i've recently been reading about Julius Martov and am very fond of his views and to my knowledge there is no procliamed martovism so i would say im a Leftist Menshevik
somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback
8th January 2006, 19:39
Fuck this name-calling thingy. I say:
-Revolution
-State, only for welfare, does not meddle in personal choices (drug/alcohol using, smoking etc.)
-Slowly deconstructing state
-Communist society (or anarchism, if you wish)
People call me communist, marxist, anarcho-communist, the thing is: Don't we all pretty much want the same? We just have different views on how to reach it. But if your goal is the same as the 4th step I just described (and someone in this thread before me, I think), than you are a comrade of mine :)
RebelAlliance1936
10th January 2006, 03:33
Left-Communist "Fellow Traveler", with some syndicalist sympathies.
Djehuti
13th January 2006, 17:06
Iam some kind of "beyond the ultra-left"-marxist. I am influenced by left communists (like Bordiga), situationists (like DeBord), insurrectionist anarchists (like Alfredo Bonanno & Wolfi Landstreicher) as well as modern post-ultra-left communists (such as Gilles Dauvé).
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