Bolivian police vs Bolivian Military Forces

[Larissa]

I've heard some mews about a Bolivian police riot. According to the media, the police was protesting against a 12% income tax from the government over the wages. The military forces and the police of Bolivia had a serious conflict resulting in 8 people dead and 25 wounded.

One of our new Che members, Latin America, is from Bolivia, so hopefully, we can get first hand info.

[Just Joe]

the whole of Latin America is a time bomb waiting to go off. i think the've finally had enough of the Americans enjoying high living standards of there hard work. some good left wingers being elected so maybe they should work together and form some sort of anti-globalisation alliance.

maybe in this chaos, the Bolivian people will do something worthwhile to change there situation. first go the Yankees, then go the corrupt governments and then comes Latin Americas freedom.

[Larissa]

I heard there are several government buildings on fire. (Bolivia)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2755599.stm

http://www.cnnenespanol.com/2003/americas/...reut/index.html (http://www.cnnenespanol.com/2003/americas/02/12/bolivia.motin.reut/index.html)


(Edited by Larissa at 9:13 pm on Feb. 12, 2003)

[Latin America]

Good one!!! Hasta la Victoria siempre!!! This Fucking none speaking Spanish bastard Sanches de Lozada will not pass the law to Bolivian congress!!! Fuck the Bolivian president!!!
Saqueos e incendios comienzan a estremecer la ciudad de La Paz
La Paz - Bolivia

Varios edificios y oficinas públicas y de partidos políticos se consumen por el fuego propagado por grupos de iracundos ciudadanos. Imágenes de Tv muestran a jovenzuelos que inician incendios y asaltos ante la falta de policías en las calles.

Todo comenzó con el asalto del Ministerio de Trabajo, a 4 cuadras del Palacio de Gobierno. Documentos que volaban por las ventanas fueron la antesala del fuego que las convirtió en cenizas.

Tras conocerse el asalto a esa repartición del Estado, se conoció el asalto a oficinas del MIR, de UCS, del MNR y de la propia Vicepresidencia de la República. El comercio también fue afectado por los asaltantes.

Desde la zona de obrajes también se confirmó que la Policía redobló la guardia en la casa del Presidente de la República, que según versiones no confirmadas, también había sido asaltada.

La Red ATB informó que universitarios de la ciudad de El Alto estarían bajando a La Paz para efectuar manifestaciones y la Red UNO informó que una turba destrozaba el canal 7, perteneciente al Estado.





(Edited by Latin America at 2:48 pm on Feb. 13, 2003)

[Larissa]

Great! Thanks!

[Guardia Bolivariano]

LT is It true that Evo Morales is creating a people's army?

[Larissa]

Bolivia is Burning...
http://argentina.indymedia.org/news/2003/02/82098.php

[Latin America]

El llamado presidente Sanches de Lozada debe renunciar ala presidencia de Bolivia!!! Su brutal y desconsiderado impuesto de 12.5% a los trabajadores no sera una opcion para el pueblo Boliviano, el presidente quiere tomar el dinero que con mucho esfuerzo compramos el pan de cada dia y que hasta a veces no al cansa ni para comer!!! La patria Boliviana nunca mas estara con la cabeza en bajo!!! Todos esos politicos y especialmente presidentes corruptos pagaran por sus fechorias y mas que heso si tenemos que usar violencia la usaremos, Que viva Bolivia!!! Los líderes de la oposición, Evo Morales y Manfred Reyes Villa pidieron la renuncia De Sanchez de Lozada !!! Muy bien hecho!!

Ni soldados ni policías dan pie atrás; se mantienen en estado de apronte y aunque en menor proporción, se oyen todavía disparos de armas de fuego. Desde muy temprano en la mañana, la situación se escapó de las manos del Presidente Sanchez de Lozada el enfrentamiento entre soldados y militares fue una gran Victoria del pueblo!!! Que viva la patria inpirada por una causa tan justa como la de Che Guevara!!! Que viva la Patria Que viva el pueblo!!!

Un sentido pesame los familiares de los valientes Bolivianos caidos en esta lucha de defender los derechos del pueblo!!!. Todo esto es culpa de ese bastardo de Sanchez de Lozada! Yo pido por favor a todos los hermanos Latino Americanos que recen y oren por los heroes Bolivianos caidos en la manana del 12 de febrero de 2003. Que dios los bendiga!

Yo pido el apoyo de la comunida Latino Americana y todos los que sepan y lean que paso en Bolivia! A que se unan a mi y apoyen al pueblo Boliviano en esta lucha grotesca y empezada por un tirano imperialista bastardo llamado Sanchez de Lozada!!! Que muera la democracia corrupta y que viva la sociedad en la cual los protagonistas principales son el pueblo!!!

[Larissa]

Who is Evo Morales?

http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2002/501/501p16b.htm
http://www.narconews.com/hungerstrike1.html
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cf...=11&ItemID=2118 (http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=11&ItemID=2118)
http://www.aymaranet.org/EvoMorales1n.html
http://www.worldsocialist-cwi.org/Index2.h...2/04brazil.html (http://www.worldsocialist-cwi.org/Index2.htm?eng/2003/02/04brazil.html)
http://jeremybigwood.net/Bolivia/
http://www.tni.org/drugs/ungass/coca2.htm
http://global.so36.net/en/2002/07/126.shtml
or http://slash.autonomedia.org/news/02/08/02...2/1538235.shtml (http://slash.autonomedia.org/news/02/08/02/1538235.shtml)
http://www.militaresdemocraticos.com/artic...0030109-04.html (http://www.militaresdemocraticos.com/articulos/en/20030109-04.html)

[Felicia]

I've heard a little about this. I have Americanized news so I only hear about things/events if there are deaths....... or they're communist related, but that's not the canadian news, we don't really care about anti-communism. Blah blah and more stuff :( All I heard was that it was a tax-rebellion and there were 7-8 deaths. Bah, that's north america for you :(

[Felicia]

Oh yeah, and we have a 15% tax on goods on the East Coast of Canada. But no one really cares about it rising, we recieve a lot of benefits from it, like free healthcare and education and a rising maritime debt :biggrin: Ain't it dandy? *rolls eyes* but I'm not complaining though, I have no reason to. But yeah, it's a shame about what's going on in Bolivia.

[Latin America]

Good information about Evo Morales! Good job Larrisa!(Pichoncita yo nunca dije que era de Bolivia)
BTW Quince muertos y 76 heridos.! Fuck Sanchez de Lozada!!!

(Edited by Latin America at 5:11 pm on Feb. 13, 2003)

[Larissa]

Quote: from Latin America on 2:09 pm on Feb. 13, 2003
Good information about Evo Morales! Good job Larrisa!(Pichoncita yo nunca dije que era de Bolivia)
BTW Quince muertos y 76 heridos.! Fuck Sanchez de Lozada!!!

(Edited by Latin America at 5:11 pm on Feb. 13, 2003)
Amor de mi vida, no vas a decir quién sos?? Ahora estoy más perdida que antes!
Aunque sea pasame tus coordenadas geográficas! :biggrin:

[Latin America]

Mi vida! tus letras son bellas pero tus sentimientos son los mas hermosos! Desde el principio dije: que de donde vengo y cual es mi nombre es un secreto mas el tiempo te dira quien soy amor mio!
Tu sos mi pichoncita concentida y al no saber como tu te miras fisicamente lo que mas me importa es la amistad y el amor que tu me brindas, te amo, te quiero, y te pienso vida mia! Sos linda, manjar de mujer!!!

[Larissa]

Si seguimos así, me voy a morir de amor!

[Latin America]

Yo se mi vida que estas repleta de amor!!! Pichoncita mi amor quiero que pienses en nuetro amor por que es asi como yo estoy, pensando en ti mi vida!

[Larissa]

Pienso, pienso. (Luego existo) Y mientras tanto qué? me sigo muriendo de intriga?

Creo que nos van a censurar este thread.

[Latin America]

Mi amor que hora es en Buenos Aires ahora?

[Larissa]

3:06 PM

[nz revolution]

I just saw on BBC here at 12pm (5 hours ago) that the cops, students and so on were burning parliamentary buildings.

Scrapping the army, students with guns, oh yes!

The cops joined in cos they get paid next to nothing and if the tax hikes go on they will be getting paid shit.

They raised the tax to pay off foreign debt, fuck the debt, power to the people!!!

LONG LIVE!!!

[Latin America]

Fuck the precidency! Fuck Sanchez de Lozada! Que viva el pueblo! Que viva Bolivia!

[El Brujo]

Finally, an example of police waking up and working for their class rather than against it.

Bolivia has had a long history of being repressed by the US. Remember, it was the CIA-backed fascist dictatorship in Bolivia which killed Che.

[Kapitan Andrey]

Larissa and Latin America!

PLEACE SPEAK ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angry:

Does the true revolution in Bolivia started?! :shocked:

[Larissa]

Quote: from Kapitan Andrey on 5:47 am on Feb. 14, 2003
Larissa and Latin America!

PLEACE SPEAK ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angry:

Does the true revolution in Bolivia started?! :shocked:
It was too personal to post in English :wink:

[Larissa]

Quote: from nz revolution on 1:11 am on Feb. 14, 2003
I just saw on BBC here at 12pm (5 hours ago) that the cops, students and so on were burning parliamentary buildings.

Scrapping the army, students with guns, oh yes!

The cops joined in cos they get paid next to nothing and if the tax hikes go on they will be getting paid shit.

They raised the tax to pay off foreign debt, fuck the debt, power to the people!!!

LONG LIVE!!!
NZ, there is an important fact about cops in bolivia, they are poor enough to join a good cause, while the military are not on the poor side, but on the "power's" side (government).

[nz revolution]

I know what ya mean Larissa.

The soldiers looked like they were taken care of, shiney weapons where the cops looked really poor, thier revolvers were almost flintlock pistols.

I wish cops over here were poor, then they wouldnt think they are above us. I saw a cool number plate last night on this car the number was "H8 PIGS"

[Latin America]

Camarada nz revolution; Bolivian police officers are very poor, they don't get well paid, that is why they got crazy with the 12.5% tax, the president Sanche is a fucking desconsiderate bastard! Bolivian people barely make enough money to eat and this fucker want to take the money away! What in the fuck is up with this Bastard! Fuck Sanchez de Lozada!!!

[nz revolution]

Yeah I know they are poor, Im sure I never said they were otherwise.

They should maybe hang this man, Im sure if they cut his salary in half then half again that would give the govt a hell of a lot more money to pay everyone.

Fuck most presidents and prime ministers everywhere