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RedCeltic
11th February 2003, 15:46
I have read in the Washington Post that militant Anti-choicers in Vrginia seek to cut funding to Planned Parenthood from the State. However ended up attacking the wrong part of the State Budget because planned parenthood recieves funding from the state for AIDS Services not for abortion services.

This shows the overwelming ignorance on the Anti-Choice side that are so obsessed with denying women the right to chose what to do with their own bodies that they are willing to cut services desgined to control the spread of AIDS.

It's quite obvious that Anti-Choice militants do not have the best interest of the people in mind.

RedFW
11th February 2003, 16:14
It's quite obvious that Anti-Choice militants do not have the best interest of the people in mind.

I believe women are not included in their definition of people.

I thought this cartoon was amusing, but it is not specifically about abortion.

Cartoon from womensenews.com (http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/1212)


(Edited by RedFW at 4:15 pm on Feb. 11, 2003)

RedCeltic
11th February 2003, 19:21
hey... that's a great cartoon... and actually it is about abortion and makes the point I was making.

Bush wants to cut funding to international Planned paranthood as Ronald Reagan did. Reason being is because he only views them as a means to obtain an abortion and doesn't realize that that's not all that they do!

CheViveToday
12th February 2003, 00:16
The Conservative and Pro-Life dickheads need to realize that promoting the use of condoms to teenagers will prevent the need for abortions! You can't be anti-birth control, and anti-abortion. Well I guess you can if your brain is the size of a peanut. And I'd rather have an unwanted pregnancy be aborted than be born, get abused by its parents, and then become a criminal.

vodun
12th February 2003, 08:09
Quote: from CheViveToday on 6:16 am on Feb. 12, 2003

And I'd rather have an unwanted pregnancy be aborted than be born, get abused by its parents, and then become a criminal. Interesting. So that's your "anti-crime" platform? Kill 'em before they're criminals! I have a good friend that was "unwanted" and given up for adoption. Would you be happier if she were killed? People are often born in poverty or other harsh circumstances but nevertheless make their way out and become perfectly fine human beings. Should they not have a chance because you'd rather not run the risk of them becoming criminals? Like it's their fault in the first place. Your humanity is inspiring. I'm willing to bet, though, that if that same unwanted child grew up and became a murderer sentenced to death, you'd be out there protesting the death penalty.

RedCeltic
12th February 2003, 17:03
vodun

Are you saying that you would rather hinder efforts to prevent the spread of aids than see Planned Parenthood get funding? Are you that Moralistic?

Granted, CheViveToday's statement was an ignorant one. However, it was fairly obvous that s/he was talkng about being raised an abusive household. Not everyone who enters the system as a ward of the state, is adopted by a decent family. Many are abused.

Your post only proves what I'm talking about. That People who are against woman's rights are so brainwashed that they don't care who's lives they destroy or what disease they help spread in their quest to control everyones biology.

CheViveToday
12th February 2003, 23:29
Vodun, your point of adoption is good, and I apologize for not including it in my post. Adoption is preferable over abortion. However aborting a baby that isn't even legally alive yet is much better than letting them grow up suffering in an abusive household and then causing other people to suffer. I'm not just concerned for myself, I'm also concerned for these babies. Yes, in my opinion, it is better for a baby to be aborted than to have to live in an abusive household. If that is inhumane of me, I don't understand why. Sorry if my post appeared ignorant to some of you, I did not think it was.

RedFW
13th February 2003, 11:34
Adoption is preferable over abortion.

Preferrable to who? If a woman cannot cope with pregnancy, childbirth and/or motherhood I think her choice preferrable, whatever it may be.

CheViveToday
13th February 2003, 20:58
I guess I should have said it that way. Sorry I cannot please everyone with the way I word my posts. I am probably the most pro-choice person in this thread. I suggest you argue with the pro-life people.

RedFW
14th February 2003, 09:08
Sorry, CheVive, that is understandable. It is precisely all the arguments I do have with the pro-life people that causes me to give attention to just a few words. Just a few words ordered in a certain way is, IMO, all it will take to make abortion illegal, unsafe and unaccessible to women.

CheViveToday
15th February 2003, 22:19
: ) Yes, if abortion is ever made illegal in the United States it will be a terrible, and bloody day. By the way, I really like your quote. It angers me when girls at my school are so anti-abortion. I think they must just not know all the facts. Of course whenever someone does a report on it they use the pics of the aborted fetuses and immediately everyone thinks abortion is so awful. I hate it when people play with other people's emotions like that. The Republicans do it all the time...Perhaps they should be shown pictures of the innocent foreign victims of American Imperialism. "Coincidentally" that never makes it into the curriculum.