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symtoms_of_humanity
27th November 2005, 02:09
Do you think the assasination of JFK was a conspiracy or not?
Do you think Oswald was alone, or do you think it was Fidel doing what JFK and his administration had been trying to do to Fidel sience he came into office?
And what about Ruby, was he stopping Oswald from ratting anyone out, or did he kill Oswald in patriotic rage?
And what of the grassy knoll and the possiable 2nd shooter?
Post what you think.
If this needs to be moved to Theory then move it, I wasn't sure if it should go in history because it is history, but the way people see it could be a theory so I wasn't sure
LA GUERRA OLVIDADA
27th November 2005, 02:30
JFK was a revolutionary. He wanted to abolish the CIA. So what does the CIA do(with the help of the mob)? They kill him.
Master Che
27th November 2005, 03:21
What do you mean by revolutionary?
LA GUERRA OLVIDADA
27th November 2005, 06:08
I mean he was really progressive compared to old United States(civil rights, racist laws, segregation, etc).
Creature
27th November 2005, 09:08
Alright, you caught me. I was the second shooter on the grassy knole.
gewehr_3
27th November 2005, 11:19
I dont know how to respond but Che said that JFK was vital to peace between amerika and cuba
Andy Bowden
27th November 2005, 12:34
Definitely a conspiracy. The scientific evidence is overwhelming, the movt of his head, the condition of the bullets recovered, the corroborating witness reports of a secret service man on the grassy knoll.
Sabocat
27th November 2005, 12:37
JFK was a revolutionary
:lol:
Congratulations on the funniest post that I've read on RevLeft in quite some time.
Nothing Human Is Alien
27th November 2005, 12:43
Congratulations on the funniest post that I've read on RevLeft in quite some time.
You should read some of the other shit s/he's written.. :)
"Well, it [Buddhism] is [aligned with communism!]. Get a deeper understanding of what Buddhism actually says and is based on if you would like to talk again."
"The Dalai Lama was just a kid. We'll never know if he would've reformed Tibet for the better."
Or my favorite
"You idiots act like Buddhism is synonymous with serfdom and feudalism, it is exactly the opposite."
Sabocat
27th November 2005, 12:59
Originally posted by
[email protected] 27 2005, 08:48 AM
[b]Congratulations on the funniest post that I've read on RevLeft in quite some time.
You should read some of the other shit s/he's written.. :)
"Well, it is [aligned with communism!]. Get a deeper understanding of what Buddhism actually says and is based on if you would like to talk again."
"The Dalai Lama was just a kid. We'll never know if he would've reformed Tibet for the better."
Or my favorite
"You idiots act like Buddhism is synonymous with serfdom and feudalism, it is exactly the opposite."
:lol:
Good stuff.
bcbm
27th November 2005, 14:51
Originally posted by Andy
[email protected] 27 2005, 06:39 AM
Definitely a conspiracy. The scientific evidence is overwhelming, the movt of his head, the condition of the bullets recovered, the corroborating witness reports of a secret service man on the grassy knoll.
Quite a bit of recent scientific analysis suggests it was a lone gunman.
Whatever the case, JFK got what was coming to him.
Master Che
27th November 2005, 15:05
Originally posted by
[email protected] 27 2005, 12:48 PM
[b]Congratulations on the funniest post that I've read on RevLeft in quite some time.
You should read some of the other shit s/he's written.. :)
"Well, it is [aligned with communism!]. Get a deeper understanding of what Buddhism actually says and is based on if you would like to talk again."
"The Dalai Lama was just a kid. We'll never know if he would've reformed Tibet for the better."
Or my favorite
"You idiots act like Buddhism is synonymous with serfdom and feudalism, it is exactly the opposite."
LMAO.
Gura
27th November 2005, 16:38
Originally posted by Andy
[email protected] 27 2005, 12:39 PM
Definitely a conspiracy. The scientific evidence is overwhelming, the movt of his head, the condition of the bullets recovered, the corroborating witness reports of a secret service man on the grassy knoll.
Also the fact that the CIA will not declassify all their documents on it until 2029, that Oswald was given a Russian test before he defected, that the KGB figured he was a CIA agent durign his time in Moscow, that one of the men performing the autopsy voluntarily burned his notes afterward, that the Warren Commission contained several CIA-friendly/military-friendly individuals (including Allen Dulles, who had every reason to dislike Kennedy), adn that the House Committee on Assassinations later determined JFK was probably killed by a conspiracy (did not mention government, but determined probably could not have been a lone assassin).
No, FK was not revolutionary, but it doesn't take much to get on the wrong side of the CIA.
Has anyone read On the Trail of the Assassins?
Simotix
27th November 2005, 16:43
What Malcom X said about JFK was great after he died, he basically said he had it coming. He called it 'Chickens coming come to rest'. It actually made a big difference in his life also (left the Nation after he got silenced from saying that).
LA GUERRA OLVIDADA
27th November 2005, 22:08
Originally posted by
[email protected] 27 2005, 12:48 PM
[b]Congratulations on the funniest post that I've read on RevLeft in quite some time.
You should read some of the other shit s/he's written.. :)
"Well, it is [aligned with communism!]. Get a deeper understanding of what Buddhism actually says and is based on if you would like to talk again."
"The Dalai Lama was just a kid. We'll never know if he would've reformed Tibet for the better."
Or my favorite
"You idiots act like Buddhism is synonymous with serfdom and feudalism, it is exactly the opposite."
Typical house nigga antics.
Master Che
27th November 2005, 22:14
If i were a mod i would of warned you right now...
symtoms_of_humanity
27th November 2005, 22:49
Originally posted by
[email protected] 27 2005, 11:24 AM
I dont know how to respond but Che said that JFK was vital to peace between amerika and cuba
JFK tried to have Fidel assasinated, Okayed the Bay of Pigs, and had many raids made on Cuba(like blowing up railroads) and Robert's number one priority was killing Fidel. How does that make him vital to peace, if he tried to do everything but make peace?
Janus
27th November 2005, 23:27
I have heard many conspiracy theories about the Kennedy assassination because I used to live in Dallas, Texas. I do believe that there may have been two shooters. Although Oswald had been in the military, many sources say that he didn't learn anything there. My theory is that Oswald and another shooter were hired by the Soviet Union to assassinate Kennedy. After all, Oswald did spend some time in the USSR. He also spent quite a bit of time in Mexico where he could've been hired by Soviet agents through the Mexican government. This is similar to what occured with ex-Pope John Paul's shooter who was also supposedly hired by the USSR through the Turkish government.
chebol
28th November 2005, 00:43
Fidel calls mass march in Havana to demand Posada's arrest
http://archives.econ.utah.edu/archives/mar...19/msg00118.htm (http://archives.econ.utah.edu/archives/marxism/2005w19/msg00118.htm)
Posada has something on Bush, says expert on Kennedy case
http://www.granma.cu/ingles/2005/abril/vier29/19kennedy.html
Posada Carriles and the Kennedy assassination
http://www.workers.org/2005/us/posada-jfk-0616/
FABIÁN ESCALANTE ON POSADA AND OPERATION 40
http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/...cle_17881.shtml (http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_17881.shtml)
Posada Carriles' U.S. asylum application re-opens JFK unsolved assassination case
http://www.axisoflogic.com/cgi-bin/exec/vi...ve=93&num=16892 (http://www.axisoflogic.com/cgi-bin/exec/view.pl?archive=93&num=16892)
http://www.afrocubaweb.com/jfk.htm
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKbosch.htm
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKposada.htm
Fabian Escalante, former head of the Cuban Secret Servce is publishing a series of boks that will cover much of this period, and cuban files and information heretofore unavailable.
And check out the book "ZR Rifle- The plot to kill Kennedy and Castro". Available from www.oceanbooks.com.au
symtoms_of_humanity
28th November 2005, 01:24
Originally posted by Comrade
[email protected] 27 2005, 11:32 PM
I have heard many conspiracy theories about the Kennedy assassination because I used to live in Dallas, Texas. I do believe that there may have been two shooters. Although Oswald had been in the military, many sources say that he didn't learn anything there. My theory is that Oswald and another shooter were hired by the Soviet Union to assassinate Kennedy. After all, Oswald did spend some time in the USSR. He also spent quite a bit of time in Mexico where he could've been hired by Soviet agents through the Mexican government. This is similar to what occured with ex-Pope John Paul's shooter who was also supposedly hired by the USSR through the Turkish government.
I don't think the Soviets would do it, on a show I was watching they had a ex KGB agent, and he said they would not have done it becuase it would have been too obvious, use a man from the U.S. to kill the U.S. president, and from what he said Oswald was not well accepted into Russian society(not they didn't accept him, he didn't adept well), and I belive that agent, becuase I feel if the KGB had wanted it done it wouldn't have been an easy way to point the finger to them(I mean Oswald, a man who went to the Soviet Union, then comes back with a mission to kill the president, seems a bit to obvious and under-planned)
Socialsmo o Muerte
28th November 2005, 19:47
Police radio sound recordings picked up at least 4 shots. The Warren Commission says Oswald shot 3 bullets. So, if there were four shots, then it was, by definition in accordance with the Warren Commission saying Oswald shot 3 bullets, a conspiracy.
Of course, Kennedy was not a "revolutionary". But he was far to progressive for the liking of the American political elite at the time. Civil Rights were seen as ridiculous by most American politicians...you give the most potentially revolutionary group in America their rights and all hell would break loose. Kennedy also wanted the troops out of Vietnam by the end of his first term. It was no coincidence that LBJ doubled the troops in Vietnam just a few weeks after JFK died. War is big money. Big companies and industries would have been putting pressure on their political representatives to ensure there was no end to their money making venture on Vietnam. The result? Possibly a political conspiracy to bring the end of JFK. And as this could not possible be gained in an election due to his popularity, it had to be done by dirty means.
Incidently, Malcolm X called the killing "...just a case of the chicken's coming home to roost". Whatever happens, chickens will always come home to roost. He admitted later he was wrong, once he'd escaped the corrupt N.O.I.
As for Ruby, he knew the truth. He said he did. But he never got to tell it. Of course, he killed Oswald so Oswald didn't let the truth out.
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