Rumsfeld, digging himself a hole

[Red Liberation]

I was just watching this on a news report. It appears that Donald did more bad than good when he put Cuba, Libya and Germany in the same group of countries that are not doing a single thing no matter how small to aid the war!

[Guardia Bolivariano]

Besides this being a huge mistake It could end the posibilaty of total european suport of the war.France and Germany or the keystones of the EU pissing them of won't help.

[CheViveToday]

If the US tried to kill me with exploding cigars, I wouldn't help them in an oil war either.

[Archie Victus]

Saddam has dug himself into a hole for the past 10 years. Hopefully, he'll be in a hole six feet under soon.

[Tasha]

Archie let me get this through your thick skull. I hate to put it this way but you are littering the boards with this bush is a great guy bullshit. Now most of the population would believe the media and not ask the question why. If you know some history of the united states and their foreign policy, you could come up with some answers for these questions. Heres a question for you Archie how does the cost of this war not exceed the benefit? Even if you say bush is a great guy hes not gonna get oil (very untrue statement). There is no way you can back it up with enough facts to justify this. Don't you ever ask why is there all this anti-americanism and not as much to other countries? Theres a reason the plane flew into the buildings

1. Most likely scenario. CIA did it to frame some muslims to justify building a pipeline to the caspian sea. And to later try to bring war to another country iraq having the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world. This is backed up with many facts proving this an extremely likely scenario.

2. Some muslims did it because america has been fucking them in the ass for the past 50 years.

America creates its enemies and if there is alot of opposition then you need to be openminded and see why there is opposition.

[Larissa]

Quote: from Archie Victus on 5:38 pm on Feb. 8, 2003
Saddam has dug himself into a hole for the past 10 years. Hopefully, he'll be in a hole six feet under soon.
Let me suggest you to take a look around your lovely country and respectfull people and see BY YOURSELF how lots of americans repudiate Bushyguy and his selfish oliy war. Don't come and tell us Bush is good, he sucks!

[Guardia Bolivariano]

Lets not pay much atention to Archie he's just another example of american brainwashed youth.I'm sure he also thinks africa is a nation.:wink:

[Archie Victus]

Tasha, are you saying that the 9/11 attacks were justified?

[Hampton]

Instead of the word justified, say the chickens came home to roost, then I would have to agree.

[Tasha]

Nope no killing of civilians are justified, what I am simply pointing out ( in the 2nd case scenario) is that United states brought it upon themselves. They created the hatred which brought about 9/11. This is in 2nd scenario I pointed out the least likely scenario. Listen archie every human being wants the best for the world (quite a few exceptions here but you get the point) , but if you dont establish a mind for yourself then you will simply be a follower of someone like george bush.

(Edited by Tasha at 4:31 am on Feb. 9, 2003)

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

How did Rumsfeld dig himself a yet deeper hole by grouping Cuba, Libya, and Germany into one category?

On another note: Archie, leave! Go to the oppsing ideologies forum.

[Archie Victus]

Where's the respect I deserve?

[CheViveToday]

Archie, everyone here is offended by what you are saying. We all like to argue a point, and we are all open minded enough to listen to someone elses views...to a certain extent. You are being disrespectful to our beliefs and opinions, so we will show no respect to you or your opinions. If you don't have common belief with us, what keeps you here? Go find a right wing capatilist forum. There you can talk about Jesus, glorify Bush, and spout all the racial slurs you want. And by the way, I love your new quote. It's a perfect example of Bush ignoring the Constituionally protected rule of seperation of church and state. Just leave us good people alone, the time you save you can use to attend that KKK rally in South Carolina you've been looking forward to.

[Guest1]

Rumsfeld dug himself a hole cause he basically declared yet another axis of evil and put a major US ally in it, along with Cuba and Libya. That'll piss them off quite a bit more, me thinks.

[kylie]

i like how he got shouted down in public by the german foreign minister.

[Kapitan Andrey]

Yes! F**K bush, F**K rumsfeld, F**K archie victus!!!

Now the Germany and France is by our side( I mean they are now against the u.s.a.)!!!

Che y Marijuana...change your "nick"!!! Che was against the drugs!!!

[Red Liberation]

Id like to show my respect for the actions of Germany in this matter. I mean most european countries have said they will attack at the drop of a hat while Germany is staying solid with its belifs. WELL DONE GERMANY

[Lefty]

Ok, Bush, France doesn't want the fight, take a hint. TAKE THE FUCKING HINT!

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Quote: from Archie Victus on 3:34 am on Feb. 9, 2003
Tasha, are you saying that the 9/11 attacks were justified?


Saddam has nothing to do with Osama.

And BTW: Bush,It's our main priority to find Osama and bring him to trial

Where is Osama?

Who had funded Osama in Afganistan to fight the "big bad" Communists?

Who gave Osama his military training?

Pakistan set up the Taliban, they reported it to the CIA, the CIA approved it. So far your "fight for the Afgan women".

The US beats up prisoners, some even innoncent, at e.a Bagram airbase.

The US has still around 15000 nukes, what are they good for?

In these times of heavy economical captalistic damage, it seems unreasonable to pump more money in the US nuclear program rather than building factory's and homes.

What do you think that the Arab world will do when the US destroys/conquers Bagdad?

We know Afganistan, look what there happend when the Soviet tanks rolled in.

And 11/9 probaly wouldn't have happend, if the US hadn't trained Osama and didn't feed him with fundamentalist ideas.

Many pro-war Americans use the argument that Pearl Harbor costed less lives and there the US went to war too. The fact is that Saddam nor the Iraqi people want war, it's your president, formerly director of oil company's and bussines partner of Osama's brother.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

BTW: Belgium has declared not to go to war.

I saw an interview last night with the Belgium Premier, he said that he is sick and tired of the constant US pressure to destroy Iraq. "The US says, you're with us or against us, I don't want to go war on Iraq, but that doesn't mean that I am an enemy of the US"..

[Larissa]

So, Archie, are you saying the US starving children in poor countries thru its "protective" policies is justified????

I bet, you sure also have a justification for the lousy war policy he has against Iraq, isn't it?

[Angie]

Apparently the oh-so-lovely Donald Rumsfeld has been disowned by his relatives (http://www.opinion.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/02/09/wrums09.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/02/09/ixworld.html) in Germany. Just priceless. I'd disown him, too.

[Larissa]

Quote: from Angie on 10:18 am on Feb. 10, 2003
Apparently the oh-so-lovely Donald Rumsfeld has been disowned by his relatives (http://www.opinion.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/02/09/wrums09.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/02/09/ixworld.html) in Germany. Just priceless. I'd disown him, too. Good news, Angie.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Quote: from CCCP on 10:53 am on Feb. 10, 2003

Quote: from Archie Victus on 3:34 am on Feb. 9, 2003
Tasha, are you saying that the 9/11 attacks were justified?


Saddam has nothing to do with Osama.

And BTW: Bush,It's our main priority to find Osama and bring him to trial

Where is Osama?

Who had funded Osama in Afganistan to fight the "big bad" Communists?

Who gave Osama his military training?

Pakistan set up the Taliban, they reported it to the CIA, the CIA approved it. So far your "fight for the Afgan women".

The US beats up prisoners, some even innoncent, at e.a Bagram airbase.

The US has still around 15000 nukes, what are they good for?

In these times of heavy economical captalistic damage, it seems unreasonable to pump more money in the US nuclear program rather than building factory's and homes.

What do you think that the Arab world will do when the US destroys/conquers Bagdad?

We know Afganistan, look what there happend when the Soviet tanks rolled in.

And 11/9 probaly wouldn't have happend, if the US hadn't trained Osama and didn't feed him with fundamentalist ideas.

Many pro-war Americans use the argument that Pearl Harbor costed less lives and there the US went to war too. The fact is that Saddam nor the Iraqi people want war, it's your president, formerly director of oil company's and bussines partner of Osama's brother.

Can you answer all the questions without harming the [i]Freedom, democracy and liberty