bnp at college

[Angry Young Man]

i was reading the union paper and was horrified to read that someone from the bigot-nazi-pervert party was handing out leaflets. if idve decked him. seriously. what would your reaction have been?

[Cyber Communist]

Fascists, whether under the BNP logo or any other one for that matter, desreve relentless violence.

The National Front (NF), the party which gave birth to the BNP, was only really beaten back by street fights with anti-fascists.

I would suggest joining Anti-Fascist Action (AFA), a millitant anti-fascist movement that has a policy of giving the fascists NO platform to promote their vile 'ideology' in the streets above all else, as the streets and estates is where the fascists try and gain recruits.

Only by physically removing them from these areas will they be defeated, it's essential to deny the fascists their 'foot soldiers' as they only recruit young people for their own violent actions on the street.

[C_Rasmussen]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2005, 03:06 PM
i was reading the union paper and was horrified to read that someone from the bigot-nazi-pervert party was handing out leaflets. if idve decked him. seriously. what would your reaction have been?
That would've been really cool if you clocked the fuckhead. They have no business out there trying to recruit people for their shit cause. If I saw one handing out leaflets I'd probably go up to him and let him have it (without worry of police retaliation).

[RedSabine]

You should have beat the shit out of that nazi fuckhole.

[Aurora]

I agree beat the crap out of him nazis don't deserve mercy

[Comrade Yastrebkov]

I'm not sure "beating the fuck out of that fucking fuckhole fucking fuckface fucker" is the right way to do it. We (as well as the majority of sane people) know their cause is shit, but they really believe in it. And if we go around starting street fights with them, no matter how much they are disliked by people, we are bringing ourselves down to their level. They have a reputation and history of violence, which we dont want. Do I have a valid point?

[Organic Revolution]

no you dont have a valid point. thats like saying that if no one pays attention they'll stop.

[enigma2517]

Do I have a valid point?

Well, its movement, not a popularity contest.

Facists are a direct enemy to the working class. What else do you suggest we do with them?

[Punk Rocker]

Facists are a direct enemy to the working class. What else do you suggest we do with them?

Smash lit molotov cocktails on them.

If we're in a good mood, we could just castrate them so they can't have kids to pass on their dumbass ideas too.

[Marx is a dead]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2005, 09:06 PM
i was reading the union paper and was horrified to read that someone from the bigot-nazi-pervert party was handing out leaflets. if idve decked him. seriously. what would your reaction have been?
I would have eaten my hat.

[Marx is a dead]

Originally posted by Cyber [email protected] 25 2005, 12:51 AM
Fascists, whether under the BNP logo or any other one for that matter, desreve relentless violence.

That's very tolerant of you.

[Marx is a dead]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2005, 10:42 PM
Facists are a direct enemy to the working class.
In what way?

If you want to stop them, surely you should beat them in free and open debate? (If you can that is. Your ideas have never stood up to scrutiny.)

[Angry Young Man]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 27 2005, 07:39 PM
I'm not sure "beating the fuck out of that fucking fuckhole fucking fuckface fucker" is the right way to do it. We (as well as the majority of sane people) know their cause is shit, but they really believe in it. And if we go around starting street fights with them, no matter how much they are disliked by people, we are bringing ourselves down to their level. They have a reputation and history of violence, which we dont want. Do I have a valid point?
to quote lenin, power can only be gained by violence, and everyone hates fascists anyway. we'd probably gain admiration from people belonging to ethnic minorities.

[Comrade Yastrebkov]

We would gain admiration from minorities maybe, but im saying that if we go round in gangs attacking gangs of nazis, then people are just gonna think "oh look theres those nazis and commies bashing each other up again haha what a laugh". This isnt the westside story, we have to be respected, not made into laughing stocks.

[ScottishSocialist13]

yes.

In Scottish - They need their **** kicked in.

[Angry Young Man]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 28 2005, 04:58 PM
We would gain admiration from minorities maybe, but im saying that if we go round in gangs attacking gangs of nazis, then people are just gonna think "oh look theres those nazis and commies bashing each other up again haha what a laugh". This isnt the westside story, we have to be respected, not made into laughing stocks.
but we're not. the right wing press demonises us. some people think that there is no communist movement anymore. not everyone realises that we have their interests at the cerntre of our beliefs. we must make ourselves known, and if that means protecting people from fascism, so be it.

[Alexknucklehead]

Originally posted by Cyber [email protected] 25 2005, 12:57 AM
Fascists, whether under the BNP logo or any other one for that matter, desreve relentless violence.

The National Front (NF), the party which gave birth to the BNP, was only really beaten back by street fights with anti-fascists.

I would suggest joining Anti-Fascist Action (AFA), a millitant anti-fascist movement that has a policy of giving the fascists NO platform to promote their vile 'ideology' in the streets above all else, as the streets and estates is where the fascists try and gain recruits.

Only by physically removing them from these areas will they be defeated, it's essential to deny the fascists their 'foot soldiers' as they only recruit young people for their own violent actions on the street.
AFA was dissolved many years ago after the need for a militant anti-fascist group lessened with the decline in BNP support. After the recent upsurgence in support and slight electoral gains Antifa was set up, and I suggest if you want to meet other anti-fascists you contact them.

www.antifa.org.uk (http://www.antifa.org.uk)

They may be a bit slow in getting back to you but they'll get round to it.

And yes, you should find out where this **** lives and beat the living shit out of him ;)

[carlito]

We would gain admiration from minorities maybe, but im saying that if we go round in gangs attacking gangs of nazis, then people are just gonna think "oh look theres those nazis and commies bashing each other up again haha what a laugh". This isnt the westside story, we have to be respected, not made into laughing stocks.
comrade Yastrebkov has answerd this thread.
Plus, Its not the best idea to pick fights with neo-nazi's, belive me iv'e been there! They will try to cripple you..
debate is the way to go.

[Angry Young Man]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2005, 04:59 PM

We would gain admiration from minorities maybe, but im saying that if we go round in gangs attacking gangs of nazis, then people are just gonna think "oh look theres those nazis and commies bashing each other up again haha what a laugh". This isnt the westside story, we have to be respected, not made into laughing stocks.
comrade Yastrebkov has answerd this thread.
Plus, Its not the best idea to pick fights with neo-nazi's, belive me iv'e been there! They will try to cripple you..
debate is the way to go.
debate is pointless. they are stupid and ignorant.

[Goatse]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2005, 09:12 PM
i was reading the union paper and was horrified to read that someone from the bigot-nazi-pervert party was handing out leaflets. if idve decked him. seriously. what would your reaction have been?
Find out when he'll next be in. Get a friend and yourself to dress up in something that makes you unrecognizable. Black with a scarf over your face would do... but dressing up as insurgents/Soviet soldiers would be cool, if you could do it. Get a few paper plates or something similar and cover them completely with a big heap of shaving foam or cream each and run in together at him. Shout "For freedom!" or "Fuck fascism!" or whatever and throw the pies in his face. Then run. If he comes back, people won't really take him very seriously anyway. And if he gets bad, do it again, but mix food colouring or something in the cream which won't come out of his lovely suit.

[Donnie]

Originally posted by Cyber [email protected] 25 2005, 12:57 AM
Fascists, whether under the BNP logo or any other one for that matter, desreve relentless violence.

The National Front (NF), the party which gave birth to the BNP, was only really beaten back by street fights with anti-fascists.

I would suggest joining Anti-Fascist Action (AFA), a millitant anti-fascist movement that has a policy of giving the fascists NO platform to promote their vile 'ideology' in the streets above all else, as the streets and estates is where the fascists try and gain recruits.

Only by physically removing them from these areas will they be defeated, it's essential to deny the fascists their 'foot soldiers' as they only recruit young people for their own violent actions on the street.
There's no AFA now in Britain I think their is an AFA and Anti-Racists Action group in Canada.

As Alex said its AntiFa that is the no platform militant anti-fascist action in Britain now. I've herd AntiFa is more of a nothern group than a southern group seen as the BNP have most seats in the north.

[James]

The problem with violence, is that the BNP are not the NF. They are a serious attempt at a legitimate political party. As such, any violent action against them tends to be followed up through the proper chanels, such as the police (and no doubt via more NF unofficial means). Don't forget they have a propaganda machine. They love such aumminition. you can garuntee that they will try very hard to make you seem like a crazy minority trying to "silence" the voice of the "bog standard englishman" who is "just trying to get by". Or some rubbish like that. Indeed, some violence directed toward them can lead to free propaganda for them. Espeically if they don't fight back beyond "self defence".

So be careful.

I certainly would not dress up as an "insurgent". That idea is utter bollocks. Remember they basically claim that all foreigners are evil and can't participate properly in english society. An "arab" trying to prevent the BNP from voicing their "democratic rights" would again help them rather than hinder.

So be very careful.

AS the banned member hinted at: debate is the way. If your ideas are credible, and theirs not, then it will be obvious. Indeed; in a sense it is easy as they are crazy fascists! Focus on their past record.
ESPECIALLY focus on their unfascist record in office. i.e. have a look at what they have (not) done in the local councils they got seats on. I think private eye and the guardian have covered this.
This discredits them as a credible, normal, british political party.

And of course feel free to, in addition, point out how they are raging racists.
But do use evidence.

The main thing to remember is; be careful!

[Goatse]

I certainly would not dress up as an "insurgent". That idea is utter bollocks. Remember they basically claim that all foreigners are evil and can't participate properly in english society. An "arab" trying to prevent the BNP from voicing their "democratic rights" would again help them rather than hinder.

I didn't quite mean an Iraqi-style insurgent, I meant Guevara style insurgent/rebel.

[James]

I think any covering of the face in such a style will be interepreted as "foreign".
Do you mind me asking why (dress up)?

[Angry Young Man]

Originally posted by ScottishPinko+Jan 4 2006, 05:05 PM--> (ScottishPinko @ Jan 4 2006, 05:05 PM)
[email protected] 24 2005, 09:12 PM
i was reading the union paper and was horrified to read that someone from the bigot-nazi-pervert party was handing out leaflets. if idve decked him. seriously. what would your reaction have been?
Find out when he'll next be in. Get a friend and yourself to dress up in something that makes you unrecognizable. Black with a scarf over your face would do... but dressing up as insurgents/Soviet soldiers would be cool, if you could do it. Get a few paper plates or something similar and cover them completely with a big heap of shaving foam or cream each and run in together at him. Shout "For freedom!" or "Fuck fascism!" or whatever and throw the pies in his face. Then run. If he comes back, people won't really take him very seriously anyway. And if he gets bad, do it again, but mix food colouring or something in the cream which won't come out of his lovely suit. [/b]
i rather like calling fascists "skin'ed scum"

[Goatse]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 10:50 AM
I think any covering of the face in such a style will be interepreted as "foreign".
Do you mind me asking why (dress up)?
Don't wanna get caught, do you?

[James]

Point taken. (although as i made clear, i don't think such a general tactic is productive).


I think it would be rather interesting to shoot one at a long range with a paint gun (and not be seen). Bet it would freak them out alot. Would freak me out alot!

[Aurora]

That would be sooooo cool :lol:
Can you imagine the look on that fuckwits face. :wacko: :angry: :blush: