US man guilty of Bush death plot

[drain.you]

US man guilty of Bush death plot
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Ahmed Omar Abu Ali
Prosecutors said Abu Ali was recruited in Saudi Arabia

A US citizen has been convicted of plotting to kill President George W Bush and being a member of al-Qaeda.

Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, 24, faces a possible life sentence after a US jury found him guilty on nine counts, including conspiracy to hijack a plane.

The Arab-American student was held in Saudi Arabia in 2003 and reportedly confessed to membership of al-Qaeda.

His defence team said he was tortured and forced to confess, but the judge refused to disallow the confession.

Meanwhile, another American, Jose Padilla, has been charged with terror offences more than three years after being seized.

Mr Padilla was one of only two US citizens being held as an enemy combatant after being arrested in May 2002.

He was originally suspected of plotting to explode a "dirty bomb" but was charged with other terror-related offences on Tuesday.

His case had become a battleground between the US government and civil libertarians over how far the authorities could go in holding Americans without charge.

'Fight not over'

The jury in the Abu Ali case deliberated for more than two days before giving its verdict, which the defence vowed to appeal.


We intend to use the justice system to prove our client's innocence
Defence lawyer Khurrum Wahid

Abu Ali will be sentenced in February.

Abu Ali was held in Saudi Arabia until February 2005, when he was returned to the US and charged on nine counts.

Prosecutors alleged that he aimed to establish an al-Qaeda cell similar to the one that carried out the 9/11 attacks.

According to charges, it was proposed that Abu Ali would shoot Mr Bush on the street or detonate a car bomb.

Abu Ali was born in Houston and raised in Falls Church, Virginia.

Prosecutors said that he made contact with al-Qaeda while studying at university in Medina, Saudi Arabia, in 2001.

Outlining the charges in February, prosecutor Paul McNulty said Abu Ali had "turned his back on the US and joined the cause of al-Qaeda".

"Obviously the jury has spoken but the fight is not over," defence lawyer Khurrum Wahid said outside the federal court in Alexandria, Virginia.

"We intend to use the justice system to prove our client's innocence."

Source: BBC News Website

[Iconoclast]

It's hard to say where the truth lies in a case like this. Islamic fundamentalism throws a large unknown into the equation, despite the fact he already admitted to the alleged crime (bad idea, neverrrr admit it)

[Tekun]

I have no sympathies for Islamic extremists who kill innocent civilians(and by this I do not disagree with his initial plan to kill Bush)

[Atlas Swallowed]

After they tortured the man, he would probably confess to anything. Who knows what crimes he has committed if any. If they tortured him, which they most likely did, then any confession is meaningless. I don't think Bush should be assassinated. He should have his legs broken with a baseball bat and then gang raped by a band of 400lb. homosexuals.

[Magraheed]

Sure they say he admitted it but how do we know thats the truth? It would be a better world without bush anyway

[bolshevik butcher]

I wonder what evidence was alledgaed against him. I cant help but feel in the current climate someone could easily get done for terror charges due to the air of fear.

[Cyber Communist]

If this man did aim to kill Bush, then good on him.

However, Islamists always aim to kill those who are not part of the capitalist system and thus I DO NOT support Al-Qaida, even critically speaking.

However, ANY guerrilla/'terrorist' who kills Bush, is NOT in my eyes, a criminal.

[perdido]

Killing innocent people will always be wrong. Bush is very far from innocent however.

[JKP]

Killing bush would be a bad idea. It would give more power to the remnants of his administration, and would allow them to pursue their agenda with impunity.

[bolshevik butcher]

Killing bush would in the long runa chieve nothing. He's just another conservative leader who could easily eb replaced by another one. He's not paticularly charasmatic or anything and it wouldnt really make the capitlist system end any faster.

[fpeppett]

hmmm, confessing in a place such as America is pretty irrelvant nowadays, doesn't really mean antything

[Cyber Communist]

Killing bush would be a bad idea.

It is open to debate as to whether it can achieve anything or move the world closer to a workers revolution.

However, the death of an oppressor like Bush, is never bad!

I can never see the death of a class enemy as something negative, even if it is not an outright positive.


It would give more power to the remnants of his administration,

Legally speaking, the U$ administration has all the power they need. Years of tough law and order campiagns and the Patriot Act and other such laws already give the U$ administration the legal backing to impose an outright emergency dictatorship.

It is just that they have not enforced these oppressive laws to their full potential, but the potential is already there.

The so-called freedoms we get under the capitalist system are fake, lack any real foundation and can be taken away at the whim of the capitalist class.


and would allow them to pursue their agenda with impunity.

From what I can see, that is what they are already doing!

I mean, it is not exactly like there is any accountability from those spinless fucks in the Democrat Party or even from the near non-existant U$ socialist and communist movement.

[Ownthink]

Just a warning, I'd watch what you say. The SS or DHS may show up on your door step.

[Cyber Communist]

Just a warning, I'd watch what you say. The SS or DHS may show up on your door step.

No need to worry.

I live in Britain.

DHS cannot touch me, yet! :lol: