Communism, Marxism, Leninism

[Red Menace]

Hi im new to this site and to these idealoligies. Ive heard of them all and i have never understood them. i would like to learn what they are and what they stand for. I do not want to discuss things on this forum that i do not understand. please enligten me, I may not agree with them, but i would like to learn.

[More Fire for the People]

Communism -- Marxist premise of a system in which the proletariat (the working class) has been liberated from all leaders.

Marxism -- Early practical method of applying communism through a Communist League or Party that would act on both a democratic and revolutionary front. Ideal state based politically off the Paris Commune.

Leninism -- A Russian extension of Marxism that attempts to build a socialist society with the Communist Party acting on a near-only revolutionary front. A key concept to Leninism is “democratic centralism” that was supposed to overcome that anti-organization and the ultra-centralism of the two factions — the Anarchists and the Blanquists — in the Paris Commune.

There are also three branches of Leninism,
Stalin-inspired Leninism -- Essentially Leninism but with an emphasis on building socialism on the national level and authoritarian suppression of ‘reactionaries’. A fault with Stalinism — killing the revisionist didn’t get rid of their ideology.

Trotskyism -- An extension of Leninism based on the premise that the socialist state can only survive through an international proletarian revolution. Trotskyists also work within existing states to further the revolutionary cause. A fault with some Trotskyists groups is that they often wind up becoming social democratic parties.

Maoism -- Relatively based off Stalin-inspired Leninism with an emphasis on national liberation of the Third World and a peasant army lead by the minority working class. Maoists emphasize a Cultural Revolution to purge revisionists and their ideology. Maoists’ faults, they like to use the words “fascism” and “contradictions” a whole lot without having a clue about what they mean.

[Lamanov]

Communism is not an ideology. It's an economic classless and stateless system. It's advocated by certain ideologies and sciences.

Marxism is a science of totality. It's a synthesis of science and social-humanism which aims towards liberation and emancipation of the proletariat as an only social force which has a possibility to create communism.

Leninism is an ideology which grew out of revisionist marxism of the Socialist International and backwards Russian society. It insists upon revolutionary action, by which it separated itself from the 2nd International. It's main exponent is Lenin, obviously.

Leninism devided itself into Stalinism and Trotskyism. They both stand on 2 main premises of Leninism: vanguard party (political party as a political leader of the revolution) and the theory of imperialism (3rd world revolution economic necesity).

Stalinism takes the vanguard party premise further and upon it builds a doctrine by which party is the soul master of the objective truth - an excuse for the totalitarian dictatorship of the party - which is basicly an exponent of the bureaucratic state-capitalist ruling class.

Trotskyism rests on a doctrine of the permanent revolution (world revolution necesity) formulated by Trotsky, obviously. Later it developed as an anti-stalinist movement which insisted on socialist democracy.

Maoism is just an backwards version of Stalinism which insists upon the crutial role of peasantry. It sucks, obviously.

[More Fire for the People]

Wow, how nice of DJ-TC to provide you with a completely unbiased representation of varations of Marxism.

[Lamanov]

"Variations of marxism"? You wish :lol: !

[More Fire for the People]

Originally posted by DJ-[email protected] 23 2005, 12:54 PM
"Variations of marxism"? You wish :lol: !
Why? I no longer consider myself a real communist let alone a Marxist-Leninst, I would have no reason to be in favour of any of the ideologies I posted yet I painted them accurately.

[Led Zeppelin]

I no longer consider myself a real communist let alone a Marxist-Leninst

Then what do you consider yourself?

[More Fire for the People]

Originally posted by Marxism-[email protected] 23 2005, 01:55 PM

I no longer consider myself a real communist let alone a Marxist-Leninst

Then what do you consider yourself?
A revolutionary socialist. I still consider Marx, Lenin, and Mao excellet leaders and theoriticians but in the end I'm not a materialist and no matter how much I agree with them I won't be a Marxist, Leninist, or Maoist. I've also found myself opposed to democratic centralism. I'll find a title for myself eventually now it just changes from revolutionary socialism, revolutionary democratic socialism, Zapatista-Socialism, whatever...

[Red Menace]

Trotskyism sounds pretty interesting. im going to look into that.

[Lamanov]

Originally posted by Rebel [email protected] 23 2005, 10:27 PM
Trotskyism sounds pretty interesting. im going to look into that.
Look into all of them if nececary and see where you stand.

If you are interested MIA has historical-theoretical classification of each "branch": Writers - by history (http://www.marxists.org/archive/index-history.htm)

[Red Menace]

oh cool, thank you, this will be useful