Nepalese and Indian Maoists Release Joint Statemen

[Red Heretic]

Condemn the fascist attack of feudal tyrant Gyanendra upon the Revolutionary People of Nepal !

Condemn the fascist attack of Indian ruling classes on the revolutionary leaders & masses of India!!

A semi-colonial and semi-feudal Nepal, which was hardly known 10 years before by its name and geographical location in the globe, has now become a focal point of keen attention the world over. On the one hand, the establishment of people

[bcbm]

Is it this?



Condemn the fascist attack of feudal tyrant Gyanendra upon the Revolutionary People of Nepal !

Condemn the fascist attack of Indian ruling classes on the revolutionary leaders & masses of India!!


A semi-colonial and semi-feudal Nepal, which was hardly known 10 years before by its name and geographical location in the globe, has now become a focal point of keen attention the world over. On the one hand, the establishment of people’s power all across the vast countryside of Nepal by way of the people’s war, waged under the leadership of CPN (Maoist) for the last ten years, and one year of strategic offensive in particular, has become a source of inspiration for the oppressed all over the world and, on the other, it has become a deadly ideological and political threat for imperialism, particularly the US imperialism and its puppet regimes, including India.

Gyanendra Shahi, a hated smuggler and the ringleader of the palace massacre, by usurping absolute power through a coup on February 1, 2005, is not only massacring the revolutionary masses across the country but also repressing brutally the parliamentary political parties, journalists, civil societies, students, human rights activists and intelligentsia who raise their voice against the royal military fascism. US imperialism, the main enemy of the oppressed people all over the world, and Indian expansionism are trying to prop up their puppet Gyanendra and his royal mercenary gangsters by providing arms, ammunition, logistics and money in different pretexts.

In India, the reactionary expansionist ruling classes have stepped up their countrywide coordinated campaign of brutal suppression of the people’s war led by the CPI(Maoist) ever since the merger of the MCCI and CPI(ML)[PW] in September last. They are propagating continuously about the "grave danger" posed by the long Red Corridor of armed struggle stretching from the Base Areas in Nepal up to the guerrilla zones of Andhra Pradesh or the so-called Compact Revolutionary Zone. They have initiated a phenomenal increase in the central repressive forces to tackle the Naxalites, undertook massive modernization and special training of the forces, and are using helicopters where necessary, along with a package of so-called reforms to wean away the masses from the fold of the Maoists. The democratic voice of the people is suppressed and the fundamental rights guaranteed by the Indian Constitution are trampled underfoot in the vast areas of armed struggle and nationality movements. The ruling classes have also stepped up the attacks against every form of democratic struggle and anti-imperialist movements.

In this situation, we the undersigned two Maoist parties solemnly appeal to the entire oppressed masses, the world over, and Nepal and India in particular, to raise voice against every evil design of imperialism and expansionism to repress the revolutionary cause of the oppressed people in Nepal & India. And we pledge to fight unitedly till the entire conspiracies hatched by the imperialists and reactionaries are crushed and the people’s cause of Socialism and Communism are established in Nepal, India and all over the world.

Condemn the massacre of the Maoist revolutionaries by the fascist Turkish state! Support the ongoing people’s war in Turkey!!

We are very much distressed by the news that the fascist Turkish regime, the lackey of the US imperialism, massacred 17 Maoist revolutionaries, including the general secretary, comrade Cafer Cangöz, of the Maoist Communist Party [Turkey-North Kurdistan] (MKP), in Mercan in the Dersim region of Turkey, on the 16/17 of June 2005. We condemn this contemptible act of cold-blooded murder in which the people’s great leaders and fighters sacrificed their lives for the cause of new democratic revolution, socialism and communism, in Turkey, as part of the world proletarian revolution.

However challenging the task may be the firm grasp of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism and its creative application can defeat the class enemies and the system that nurtures them, imperialism. At this painful moment, we appeal to the revolutionary masses of the people in Turkey and the relatives of those martyrs to transform this distress and grief into revolutionary wrath against the class enemies and their master, imperialism led by the US imperialism, and to unite under the banner of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, firmly held by the Maoist Communist Party [Turkey-North Kurdistan] (MKP). In this period of grief and distress, we firmly pledge to extend our support in all ways to the MKP and the revolutionary people it is leading in order to accomplish the unfinished task, the martyred heroes have left upon the shoulder of our class, internationally.

Prachanda Ganapathy

Chairman General Secretary

Central Committee Central Committee

Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) Communist party of India (Maoist)

Date: September 1, 2005

[DisIllusion]

Does anybody know if they have any outside support, say, from China or something?

[Red Heretic]

Yeah, thanks comrade. Admin: you can delete my first two posts.

I just relized this statement is rather old too... It was just released in People's March magazine, so I thought it was new. Sorry bout that. Good nevertheless.

[Red Heretic]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2005, 03:55 AM
Does anybody know if they have any outside support, say, from China or something?
NO! China is giving the king weapons to fight the Maoists!

It's enough irony to make you vomit.

Keep in mind that China hasn't been a socialist country since the capitalist coup in 1976.

[DisIllusion]

True, China is just being hypocritical now. But why would they give weapons to the people who want to fight for independence from China?

[viva le revolution]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2005, 04:09 AM
True, China is just being hypocritical now. But why would they give weapons to the people who want to fight for independence from China?
Pardon? Nepal was always a sovreign state. China just doesn't want to rock the boat now that they have a thaw in realtions with india. They don't want to antagonize india by supporting the maoists who want to abolish the only hindu monarchy in the world. This is unfortunately the sad state of affairs in south asia.

[DisIllusion]

But given China's foreign affairs as it is today, being half capitalist and all, do you think it would support the Maoists if India wasn't supporting the Nepalese?

[bcbm]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2005, 10:28 PM
But given China's foreign affairs as it is today, being half capitalist and all, do you think it would support the Maoists if India wasn't supporting the Nepalese?
I would doubt it.

[DisIllusion]

Yeah, I thought so.

[viva le revolution]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2005, 04:28 AM
But given China's foreign affairs as it is today, being half capitalist and all, do you think it would support the Maoists if India wasn't supporting the Nepalese?
I would think so. what must be understood here is that there is a difference between a capitalist and a revisionist government. for eg. the ussr under khruschev was revisionist but supported cuba. what would help china more than the toppling of another pro-india regime. given china and india's rise as competing powers in asia. however the thaw in relations has made the situation more complicated. so much so in fact that china has distanced itself from the maoists in india and nepal. it's just geo-politics. plus there is still a large pro-mao presence mong the chinese populace. so to balance these interests china has taken a largely non-partisan stand except for statements. but as it stands today, the recent relations with india leads to the chinese distancing itself from the maoist struggles.

[Red Heretic]

The Maoist line in Nepal represents Chinese socialism before the coup in 1976... The revisionist Chinese state will do anything it can to supress such a line. It should come as no surpise that a state that imprisoned Jiang Qing (Mao's wife) and the rest of the Gang of Four will attempt to win the king over for imperialist domination of Nepal.

The Nepalese Maoists have correctly analyzed and criticized Chinese revisionism, and fight for the liberation of the international proletariat, not Chinese imperialism.

[Punk Rocker]

NO! China is giving the king weapons to fight the Maoists!

It's enough irony to make you vomit.

Dude i'm all for the people's war too, but china isn't giving the king weapons to fight the maoists, they're not getting involved because they say it's an internal matter for the nepalese.

Most of the king's weapons are from the US. In the name of democracy, Bush gives weapons to a dictator who screwed over democracy in his country and says "democracy and progress contradict one another". Shit, that's irony.


Keep in mind that China hasn't been a socialist country since the capitalist coup in 1976.

You're right, I'd say China is a social republic now. Corporate, but not as bad as the US, and I support the Chinese in their conflicts with the US, Japan, and Taiwan.

I have a friend who is a leftist and grew up in China and he supports the government there. The oppression isn't as bad as everyone in the US, including leftists, make it seem.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by Punk [email protected] 22 2005, 09:56 AM
Dude i'm all for the people's war too, but china isn't giving the king weapons to fight the maoists, they're not getting involved because they say it's an internal matter for the nepalese.

Most of the king's weapons are from the US. In the name of democracy, Bush gives weapons to a dictator who screwed over democracy in his country and says "democracy and progress contradict one another". Shit, that's irony.
http://aquamedia.eu.com/~/peacenepal/index...&id=26&Itemid=2 (http://aquamedia.eu.com/~/peacenepal/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=2)

"An influential Indian magazine has reported that China has recently cleared a deal worth Rs 160 crore to supply arms and ammunition to Nepal."

[Red Heretic]

Dude i'm all for the people's war too, but china isn't giving the king weapons to fight the maoists, they're not getting involved because they say it's an internal matter for the nepalese.

It is true that they said that at one time. However, since the people's war has gained momentum, they have actually changed their position on the matter. They recently began sending arms to both India and Nepal to combat the Maoist revolutions in those countries.

I'd post an article on them atter, but my school blocks the the news site I use... I will try to post it later.


Most of the king's weapons are from the US. In the name of democracy, Bush gives weapons to a dictator who screwed over democracy in his country and says "democracy and progress contradict one another". Shit, that's irony.

While the US is a MAJOR weapon supplier to the monarchy, the fascists have actually acquired the majority of their arms from India. The main weapon in the conflict thus far has been the INSAS.

In order of greatest to least, the weapons suppliers of Nepal go India -> USA -> China


You're right, I'd say China is a social republic now. Corporate, but not as bad as the US, and I support the Chinese in their conflicts with the US, Japan, and Taiwan.

China is social-imperialist! It is revisionist! There are no "good" imperialists. China is no more progressive than the revisionist soviet union threatned to nuke socialist China.


I have a friend who is a leftist and grew up in China and he supports the government there. The oppression isn't as bad as everyone in the US, including leftists, make it seem.

I lived there for a summer, and saw Chinese revisionism first hand. I saw massive homelessness, prostitution, and drug abuse that DID NOT EXIST IN SOCIALIST CHINA! I saw old women weeping at Mao's mosaleum, and elderly people weeping as they sang the songs of the revolution in the parks where they had gathered during the cultural revolution. It was an experience that changed my life.

[tatu]

Solidarity and friendship with People’s China:

http://www.geocities.com/ncpcentral/china20041.htm

[Red Heretic]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2005, 05:37 PM
Solidarity and friendship with People’s China:

http://www.geocities.com/ncpcentral/china20041.htm
*cough* Revisionism! *cough*

[Janus]

[QUOTE]I lived there for a summer, and saw Chinese revisionism first hand. I saw massive homelessness, prostitution, and drug abuse that DID NOT EXIST IN SOCIALIST CHINA! I saw old women weeping at Mao's mosaleum, and elderly people weeping as they sang the songs of the revolution in the parks where they had gathered during the cultural revolution. It was an experience that changed my life.

Red Heretic, you have seen nothing of true Chinese life. You only visited the major cities that have become much more Western than Chinese. In inland China, the governmental system is still very much socialist and the peasants have begun gaining more autonomy in managing local affairs. What you saw in the cities doesn't represent China at all since the majority of the people still live in the countryside. Although you have made a superficial observation, I agree that China has turned away from the socialist path as a result of Den's reforms and the domination of the Shanghai party leaders. However, despite the shifting of government attention from the farms to the cities, interior China still remains socialist.

[Punk Rocker]

tatu and qiu, it's cool to see there are other leftists who don't buy US bullshit. To be honest I would probably be like red heretic and black banner black gun, I'd think China totally betrayed socialism, if I didn't know dudes who spent most of their lives in China, are leftists and enemies of imperialism, and for the Chinese government.


China is social-imperialist! It is revisionist! There are no "good" imperialists. China is no more progressive than the revisionist soviet union threatned to nuke socialist China.

red heretic i mostly agree with you, I'm for the people's war and against the nepalese fascists, Mao is one of my heroes and Deng was bad. But knowing dudes from China, even if China is gving shit to Nepal, they are still better than the US and an enemy of imperialism.

[18tir]

I read somewhere that the Maoists now control 70% of Nepal, with all their power being in the poor rural areas. The fascist King Gyanendra's regime is still holding out through bloody repression, dictatorial rule and undemocratic measures. At least when Nepal was a "constitutional monarchy" there was some hope for a peaceful resolution. Now, this is impossible. The ruling class won't compromise, which means that they have dug their own grave. The rebels already control the villages. All they need to do now is to gather enough force to take the cities, and they can wipe out this disgraceful monarchy for good.

[Punk Rocker]

amen to that comrade

[Guerrilla22]

They need some more/better weapons to take Kathmandu. Unfortunately the Chinese government will not give them any.

[Janus]

Of course not. If the Chinese government supplys the Maoists with weapons, then they will be digging their own graves. Once the Chinese peasants see what can be accomplished, it won't be long before they assail the entrenched bureacracy and capitalists that have set up camp in China since Mao's death. The party leaders who have turned away from socialism are afraid of anything that will give strength to the exploited peasants that they have betrayed.

[Red Heretic]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 22 2005, 10:28 PM
[QUOTE]I lived there for a summer, and saw Chinese revisionism first hand. I saw massive homelessness, prostitution, and drug abuse that DID NOT EXIST IN SOCIALIST CHINA! I saw old women weeping at Mao's mosaleum, and elderly people weeping as they sang the songs of the revolution in the parks where they had gathered during the cultural revolution. It was an experience that changed my life.

Red Heretic, you have seen nothing of true Chinese life. You only visited the major cities that have become much more Western than Chinese. In inland China, the governmental system is still very much socialist and the peasants have begun gaining more autonomy in managing local affairs. What you saw in the cities doesn't represent China at all since the majority of the people still live in the countryside. Although you have made a superficial observation, I agree that China has turned away from the socialist path as a result of Den's reforms and the domination of the Shanghai party leaders. However, despite the shifting of government attention from the farms to the cities, interior China still remains socialist.
Actually, I spent the majority of my time in China (though I spent a few weeks in the cities) around the peasantry in western China in places like Dun Huang and Rumqi (sp?). As a side note, it was quite humorous to be the first ever white person that any of the chinese peasants I was around had ever seen.

Just because a very small remainder of socialized argriculture exists in china does not change the nature of the system and class that dominates China. China is ruled by the bourgeoisie, not the proletariat, and is therefore, not a socialist country, period. There are cooperative farms in the united states, does that make the united states a socialist country?

[Red Heretic]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 22 2005, 10:28 PM
[QUOTE]I lived there for a summer, and saw Chinese revisionism first hand. I saw massive homelessness, prostitution, and drug abuse that DID NOT EXIST IN SOCIALIST CHINA! I saw old women weeping at Mao's mosaleum, and elderly people weeping as they sang the songs of the revolution in the parks where they had gathered during the cultural revolution. It was an experience that changed my life.

Red Heretic, you have seen nothing of true Chinese life. You only visited the major cities that have become much more Western than Chinese. In inland China, the governmental system is still very much socialist and the peasants have begun gaining more autonomy in managing local affairs. What you saw in the cities doesn't represent China at all since the majority of the people still live in the countryside. Although you have made a superficial observation, I agree that China has turned away from the socialist path as a result of Den's reforms and the domination of the Shanghai party leaders. However, despite the shifting of government attention from the farms to the cities, interior China still remains socialist.
Actually, I spent the majority of my time in China (though I spent a few weeks in the cities) around the peasantry in western China in places like Dun Huang and Rumqi (sp?). As a side note, it was quite humorous to be the first ever white person that any of the chinese peasants I was around had ever seen.

Just because a very small remainder of socialized argriculture exists in china does not change the nature of the system and class that dominates China. China is ruled by the bourgeoisie, not the proletariat, and is therefore, not a socialist country, period. There are cooperative farms in the united states, does that make the united states a socialist country?

[Red Heretic]

China arms RNA
KOL Report KATHMANDU, Nov 25 - China has delivered the first lot of military hardware to the Royal Nepalese Army (RNA), the Kantipur daily reported on Friday. The arms and weapons were brought into Nepal in 18 trucks - 12 on Tuesday and six on Wednesday - via the Kodari Highway, the daily said quoting sources. RNA officials are yet to confirm the consignment. "I don't have any information about the arms delivery," RNA spokesman Deepak Gurung said. The trucks were escorted by the Chinese People's Army up to the Nepal-Tibet border while plainclothes RNA security personnel escorted them inside Nepali territory. China pledged to provide Rs.72 million military aid to the RNA during Chief of Army Staff General Pyar Jung Thapa's visit in October. "The aid will be used to strengthen the RNA," Thapa told journalists after returning from his weeklong visit to China. In June, China had delivered military equipments that include five Armoured Personnel
Carriers to the RNA.

[Janus]

Yes, China is run by an entrenched bureacracy but I'm sure the peasants that you visited would prefer the present circumstances to that of the landlord system. One can't just declare that all of China is run by the capitalists like the US. The peasants still have some power though the local governmental systems.