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Iepilei
4th February 2003, 21:17
What's everyones opinion on the corporation being allowed to use a public school as a medium for advertisment?

Reason I ask, is because I engaged in a discussion today with a fellow comrade of mine and and a democrat - who seemed to think it was no big deal. Now, realistically, the world has greater problems than the corporation infesting schools - but really - what is everyone's stance on this? Should it be tolerated?

Personally, I say no. I think if the corporation will not alow the state to intervene for it's interests - the state should not allow the corporation to intervene for it's intrests.

Show me the Money
4th February 2003, 21:29
Students should be able to advertize their ideals, rather than a school being sponsored by company's advertizing their manipulating shit.

chamo
4th February 2003, 22:28
I know this is barely related but a company recently took over the running of my schools canteen because the school was trying to run it at a no-profit scheme. The new manager for the canteen arrived and the first day he said to the staff "our main aim is to make as much money as possible" Now kids need to eat. And they have to rely on the school canteen for this, but the prices are ridiculous but yet we still have to pay if we want decent food.

Just Joe
4th February 2003, 22:36
Quote: from happyguy on 10:28 pm on Feb. 4, 2003
I know this is barely related but a company recently took over the running of my schools canteen because the school was trying to run it at a no-profit scheme. The new manager for the canteen arrived and the first day he said to the staff "our main aim is to make as much money as possible" Now kids need to eat. And they have to rely on the school canteen for this, but the prices are ridiculous but yet we still have to pay if we want decent food.

THAT there is the main thing that pisses me off about capitalism. i don't know what kind of school you go to (rich or poor), but thats just not on. is there anything those vultures won't try to make profit on?

RynoISM
5th February 2003, 01:12
In my school there is advertisement for Pantene Pro-V and assorted products near many of the bulletin boards. The way I see it is very simple, the mindless drones that would buy into them deserve to pay the ghastly price for them, while the person with intellect would realize the school needed money for something so they said "highest bidder gets a bulletin board" and would dismiss the advertisement.

However, I believe it to be wrong that a company would be allowed to hinder a "public learning facility" with advertisement, but anyone with a brain dismisses advertisements anyway

CheViveToday
5th February 2003, 02:59
There are also lousy advertisements all over my highschool. It's very annoying. It's like the school system is pimping teenagers out to these f*cking corporations and it's just not right. Oh yeah, and get this. Every student in my school has to wear and id that has our picture and student number. It has a large PEPSI symbol on it, and if we cover it up [the PEPSI symbol] with a sticker or piece of tape or anything, we get a detention or worse! What the hell is up with that??

redstar2000
5th February 2003, 03:17
A few years ago, I think there was a case where a kid wore a "Coca-Cola Classic" t-shirt to school on "Pepsi Day"...and got sent home.

Personally, I think defacing corporate advertising on school property is...a good idea. (Just don't get caught!)

:cool:

Lefty
5th February 2003, 03:37
We have 25 coke machines in our school. I put a "Coke Kills" poster with various facts about how coke is bad to its workers on every single one of them. :-)

RedFW
5th February 2003, 10:18
I have noticed that the website for my Uni's library now has a link to Waterstones, which I am not happy about.

And certain reading lists now say "Penguin Editions Only", which I have questioned. Some tutors say it is okay to buy any edition and others say we must use the edition given on the reading list because the introductions in certain editions are better than others, which is fair enough, but the introductions are not required reading. I am a bit cynical about it.

truthaddict11
5th February 2003, 10:40
with continued privitation of public services, how long is it before we have Pepsi High School or McDonalds Elementary

RynoISM
5th February 2003, 14:19
Many private schools already have such food services in their lunch rooms. In public schools it seems to me a but more outrageous that a large company would be permitted to advertise or hold a monopoly of business through a contract of the school.

This is what allows them to raise prices if they choose and only serve garbage food under the principle that we have to eat. This both lowers the quality of food and allows them to raise prices for higher capital. This is what sickens me about these companies that gain contracts with public schools

Non-Sectarian Bastard!
5th February 2003, 15:56
Quote: from Lefty on 3:37 am on Feb. 5, 2003
We have 25 coke machines in our school. I put a "Coke Kills" poster with various facts about how coke is bad to its workers on every single one of them. :-)


25? That's a pretty large school. Our school has just 1.

My school has just a few advertises, but they are from local companies and nobody ever looks at it. Just about 2 by 1 meter hung with advertising.

I find canteens with the goal to gain as much profit as possible disguisting. Our school canteen is like that, you have too stay very long, there is no qeue, everyone pushes each other aside, wich is very sad for the first graders who always get pushed aside, when you can finaly order.......it seems that what you wanted has been soled out.

The prices are way too high. For a small bread with a sausage you pay 80 Eurocents. A coke tin costs 70 cents.

chamo
5th February 2003, 16:47
Just Joe, I go to a grammar school, about £70 a year.
I think that is really gobsmakingly amazing in the crapiness that pepsi and coca-cola seem to use your school. You get a detention if your deadvertise, who is it that decides that, the school or Pepsi. It is up to neither to decide a punishment if you chose not to be exploited. I can't believe Pepsi get almost free advertisement on you students wholie your school probably gets a nice pay off and that there are actually advertisements inside your school, stuff like that is just not on in Britain. I suppose that in America; madness rules.

sypher
5th February 2003, 20:47
to CheViveToday;

Wow...that IS bad. I have been to schools that strike deals with pepsi or coke and get money to only have their drink sold in school. But, I have never had to advertise for a company. I don't think I'd be able to deal with that. I admire your tolerance.

"with continued privitation of public services, how long is it before we have Pepsi High School or McDonalds Elementary?"
-truthaddict11

I wouldn't be surprised to see that happen in Wisconsin, USA. Due to former Govenor Tommy Thomson (Republican), Wisconsin has a huge debt and they are loving the idea of punishing the schools for it. There is a lot of talks from teachers of the corperate sponsered schools.

I'd give it five years until we are blesses with "Verison Wireless Middle School."

THINK OF THE CENSORSHIP!!!

Disgustipated
5th February 2003, 23:06
In my opinion...it's a bad thing. Turning youth into mindless consumers. The youth today is bombarded with advertising from the second they awake to the moment they close thier eyes at night. Of course this fits in nicely with the "global economy" and the corporate dream. If I were still in school, I would tear the fucking things off the wall. Corporate sponsored education should not be allowed.

I wonder if Chiquita Brands (ex. United Fruit) would allow history teachers to tell students about the killing and corruption at their hands in South America if they were major "contributors/advertisers to a school. I think not. Thats why corporations can't be allowed any access to schools.

Lefty
5th February 2003, 23:14
I checked today: it's actually 20, or thereabouts. Still, for a school of 1500, that's insane. Those people are sick.

truthaddict11
6th February 2003, 02:32
Besides the 6 Coke machines we really only have advertising in our paper and yearbook and that is of local buisnesses like the record store I use the owner is a really cool guy and a big fan of RATM

ID2002
6th February 2003, 02:52
Canadian schools (public and private) are *free* from fast food monoplies. But the occaisional vending machine from Coke does show up. thats it.

CheViveToday
6th February 2003, 03:30
Sypher, wearing those damn id badges is really annoying. I forgot to mention that if we're caught not wearing them during school hours we also get detentions. We have open lunch [one of the few good things about my school], so when people go out to eat they take the badges off so they don't look like idiots. Then when they're coming back inside they forget to put them back on and get in trouble. It's ridiculous. It makes my sister [who is in her 2nd year of law school] furious that they can do that to us.

Non-Sectarian Bastard!
6th February 2003, 18:25
Quote: from Lefty on 11:14 pm on Feb. 5, 2003
I checked today: it's actually 20, or thereabouts. Still, for a school of 1500, that's insane. Those people are sick.


That's fuckin much!

We are with 900 people and one machine. You do mean those big ones?