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Martin Blank
16th November 2005, 06:01
Moderator: We're here today to debate the hot new topic, evolution versus Intelligent Des...

(Scientist pulls out baseball bat.)

Moderator: Hey, what are you doing?

(Scientist breaks Intelligent Design advocate's kneecap.)

Intelligent Design advocate: YEAAARRRRGGGHHHH! YOU BROKE MY KNEECAP!

Scientist: Perhaps it only appears that I broke your kneecap. Certainly, all the evidence points to the hypothesis I broke your kneecap. For example, your kneecap is broken; it appears to be a fresh wound; and I am holding a baseball bat, which is spattered with your blood. However, a mere preponderance of evidence doesn't mean anything. Perhaps your kneecap was designed that way. Certainly, there are some features of the current situation that are inexplicable according to the "naturalistic" explanation you have just advanced, such as the exact contours of the excruciating pain that you are experiencing right now.

Intelligent Design advocate: AAAAH! THE PAIN!

Scientist: Frankly, I personally find it completely implausible that the random actions of a scientist such as myself could cause pain of this particular kind. I have no precise explanation for why I find this hypothesis implausible -- it just is. Your knee must have been designed that way!

Intelligent Design advocate: YOU BASTARD! YOU KNOW YOU DID IT!

Scientist: I surely do not. How can we know anything for certain? Frankly, I think we should expose people to all points of view. Furthermore, you should really re-examine whether your hypothesis is scientific at all: the breaking of your kneecap happened in the past, so we can't rewind and run it over again, like a laboratory experiment. Even if we could, it wouldn't prove that I broke your kneecap the previous time. Plus, let's not even get into the fact that the entire universe might have just popped into existence right before I said this sentence, with all the evidence of my alleged kneecap-breaking already pre-formed.

Intelligent Design advocate: That's a load of bullshit sophistry! Get me a doctor and a lawyer, not necessarily in that order, and we'll see how that plays in court!

Scientist (turning to audience): And so we see, ladies and gentlemen, when push comes to shove, advocates of Intelligent Design do not actually believe any of the arguments that they profess to believe. When it comes to matters that hit home, they prefer evidence, the scientific method, testable hypotheses, and naturalistic explanations. In fact, they strongly privilege naturalistic explanations over supernatural hocus-pocus or metaphysical wankery. It is only within the reality-distortion field of their ideological crusade that they give credence to the flimsy, ridiculous arguments which we so commonly see on display. I must confess, it kind of felt good, for once, to be the one spouting free-form bullshit; it's so terribly easy and relaxing, compared to marshaling rigorous arguments backed up by empirical evidence. But I fear that if I were to continue, then it would be habit-forming, and bad for my soul. Therefore, I bid you adieu.

ÑóẊîöʼn
16th November 2005, 07:13
That's very good. :)

Black Dagger
16th November 2005, 12:03
An excellent bit of prose there, where's it from?

Dark Exodus
16th November 2005, 14:09
:lol:

Excellent.

ComradeOm
16th November 2005, 14:28
I like :lol:

Did you write it yourself?

rioters bloc
16th November 2005, 14:40
high-larious! :D

Martin Blank
16th November 2005, 15:54
Originally posted by Black [email protected] 16 2005, 07:08 AM
An excellent bit of prose there, where's it from?
It's been floating around on the Internet. Someone sent it to me by e-mail. I guess it's public domain, so go ahead and forward/repost/reprint it wherever.

Miles

Intifada
16th November 2005, 17:16
LOL!

:lol:

Don't Change Your Name
17th November 2005, 00:10
Nice

Latifa
18th November 2005, 07:42
:lol:

Commie Rat
18th November 2005, 08:56
tee hee hee

Janus
18th November 2005, 23:52
That pretty much sums up the debate there.

Commie Rat
19th November 2005, 03:39
that is the most beutiful thing i have seen in my life :wub:

Bannockburn
19th November 2005, 13:31
When it comes to matters that hit home, they prefer evidence, the scientific method, testable hypotheses, and naturalistic explanations. In fact, they strongly privilege naturalistic explanations over supernatural hocus-pocus or metaphysical wankery

You know, that is probably the most accurate description I've ever read. On any given day, religious individuals rely on science without even knowing it. They rely on nutritional fact when it comes to their diet. They rely on science to explain how much sleep you should get. They rely on science for explanations of medical and mental (debatable, depending) health. They rely on science for the weather. Ironically enough I live next to an evangelical church, and I talk to these people. I'm an evolutionist all the way. No doubt. I argue all the time with these people. Granted, they say creation, but as soon as I place a cigarette in my mouth and one of them says, “you're going to get cancer”, they are relying on science. I generally reply, “perhaps God says I won't”. They completely pick any arbitrary position in order to reach their own ideological conclusions.