Guerilla Training

[Rawthentic]

hey comrades. I was hoping that you could help me on some tips on how to conduct guerilla warfare. Are there are any books available that could help? Tips will be greatly appreciated, for being a guerilla is my future, so I need to know the how to, and the strategies and tactics. thanks comrades. hasta la victoria siempre! :ph34r:

[gewehr_3]

Hi comrade.

First I would advise that you gain access to a firearm for basic marksmanship training and then search the internet for navy seal tactics since they often fight like guerillas

[which doctor]

Of course you could always read Guerilla Warfare by our very own Che.

Or

http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/...rrilla-warfare/ (http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/works/1937/guerrilla-warfare/)
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/VNguerrilla.htm
http://www.au.af.mil/au/aul/bibs/asw/asw.htm
http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas

Hope they helped :)

[bcbm]

What sort of guerrilla? If you're going for the urban angle...

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marighella...rban-guerrilla/ (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marighella-carlos/1969/06/minimanual-urban-guerrilla/)

If you can, try and pick up some of those "Ecotage" guides as well. However you feel about their politics, they have a lot of good tactical advice.

[BuyOurEverything]

Or you could not make threads like this in a public forum anymore...

[Scars]

1) I wouldn't advice you attempt to be 'self taught'. Guerrillas need all their limbs.
2) Don't trust anything you get off the internet, or 'anarchist cookbooks' and the like. Refer to the point made in 1 regarding the value of limbs.
3) Why do you want such training? Carrying out such attacks achieve little- the RAF's record is impressive, but they achived practically nothing. In fact they did more harm than good.
4) As for training camps, this ain't the 60s or 70s, so you can't just roll into Palestine and get taught how to make bombs. In fact the only training camps that are active are run by Islamic extremists, so not particularly suitable.
5) Don't post these sorts of threads. It's kinda stupid.

[bcbm]

The only really objectionable part is:


Tips will be greatly appreciated, for being a guerilla is my future, so I need to know the how to, and the strategies and tactics.

In the future, just pretend its for "scholarly research."

;)



2) Don't trust anything you get off the internet, or 'anarchist cookbooks' and the like. Refer to the point made in 1 regarding the value of limbs.

Generally true, although I think it depends on the site. I'd pretty much trust the ALF site for recipies, as well as CIA handbooks that've been leaked to the internet.

[Scars]

<<Generally true, although I think it depends on the site. I&#39;d pretty much trust the ALF site for recipies, as well as CIA handbooks that&#39;ve been leaked to the internet.>>

I can&#39;t comment on the ALF, however I doubt they&#39;d provide the sorts of stuff he wants and the just because it says CIA doesn&#39;t mean that it is. As a rule of thumb, I wouldn&#39;t trust anything on the internet. Get a good chemistry textbook.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 10:08 PM
I can&#39;t comment on the ALF, however I doubt they&#39;d provide the sorts of stuff he wants
All good guerrillas should know the basics of not getting caught, not leaving traces, and making incendiary devices.


and the just because it says CIA doesn&#39;t mean that it is. . . . Get a good chemistry textbook.

Agreed.

[Creature]

Isn&#39;t the basic principle, attack, then retreat. Also, if you feel you ought ot be a guerilla, don&#39;t attack civilian targets, for all that does is get you labelled a terrorists by those in the West, and those in the media.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2005, 03:59 AM
Isn&#39;t the basic principle, attack, then retreat. Also, if you feel you ought ot be a guerilla, don&#39;t attack civilian targets, for all that does is get you labelled a terrorists by those in the West, and those in the media.
You don&#39;t even have to harm a hair on anyone&#39;s head to become a terrorist in the West.

[Scars]

Originally posted by black banner black gun+Nov 15 2005, 08:00 PM--> (black banner black gun &#064; Nov 15 2005, 08:00 PM)
[email protected] 15 2005, 03:59 AM
Isn&#39;t the basic principle, attack, then retreat. Also, if you feel you ought ot be a guerilla, don&#39;t attack civilian targets, for all that does is get you labelled a terrorists by those in the West, and those in the media.
You don&#39;t even have to harm a hair on anyone&#39;s head to become a terrorist in the West. [/b]
Yes, but you shouldn&#39;t play into the hands of the bourgeoise by conforming to their stereotypes. In addition to this, attacking civilians is not in our best interest, in fact it HARMS out cause in the long run.

As I&#39;ve said, insurrection is a nice idea, but does more harm than good. I admire the RAF for their courage, their determination and their willingness to do what they thought was right- but I don&#39;t pretend that they achieved anything.

During my insurrectionist anarchist days (when I first became &#39;radicalised&#39;, when I considered myself an anarchist) I learn most of my practical stuff from chemistry textbooks, electronics textbooks, pictures (for unknown reasons the Brits would take pictures of IRA bombs, including pseudo-cross sections). Theoretical stuff came from anarchist insurrectionist texts (for instance &#39;Armed Joy&#39; and earlier ones written by anarchists in the 19th century), as well as documents written by urban guerrilla organisations (the RAF, Weathermen etc).

Fortunately, I realised how futile and flawed the whole concept of insurrectionist anarchism was (as well as how flawed anarchism was in a general sense) before I went and did anything stupid, such as bombing somthing, but I constructed and tested various devices, drew up numerous plans (I still have them...come to think of it I probably should destroy them shouldn&#39;t I?) and the like. On the upside I now still make some pretty impressive fireworks.

[novemba]

are che and marighella alive? no. theyre dead.

make sure when reading either the manual or guerilla warfare you keep in mind that theyre not actually instruction manuals, theyre for the most part false information. there is A LOT of good info in there, but dont slate what you read in stone

[Janus]

There&#39;s always Guerrillas in the mist: A battlefield guide to clandestine warfare. This book reveals the strategies and tactics that a succeessful guerrilla would use. The funny thing about the book is that the author comments that this book must be used for academic study only. Furthermore, one shouldn&#39;t romanticize the life of a guerrilla. You must have a strong endurance and determination factor to become an actual guerrilla and be able to face boredom and many hardships along the way. You can also read some US Army special forces, Ranger, and counterinsurgency manuals that will help you hone your techniques.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2005, 05:16 PM
Yes, but you shouldn&#39;t play into the hands of the bourgeoise by conforming to their stereotypes. In addition to this, attacking civilians is not in our best interest, in fact it HARMS out cause in the long run.
I wasn&#39;t trying to say one shouldn&#39;t try to avoid civillian casualties, sorry if it came off that way.



As I&#39;ve said, insurrection is a nice idea, but does more harm than good. I admire the RAF for their courage, their determination and their willingness to do what they thought was right- but I don&#39;t pretend that they achieved anything.

I think its largely circumstancial.

[Creature]

Just remember that that particular form of Anarchy isn&#39;t always the, bomb throwing, chaotic practice many think it to be.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2005, 11:05 PM
Just remember that that particular form of Anarchy isn&#39;t always the, bomb throwing, chaotic practice many think it to be.
If I can&#39;t throw bombs, I don&#39;t want to be part of your revolution.

[Guerrilla22]

I want to be thr revolutionary doctor. I will also fight if needed, however I am prone to fits of athsma

[PrideoftheProletariat]

Read up on the classics: Work&#39;s of Che, Ho Chi Minh, and Mao&#39;s Little Red Book.

[drain.you]

I want to be thr revolutionary doctor. I will also fight if needed, however I am prone to fits of athsma
Wannabe Che much? lol. I also suffer from athsma but not as bad as Che had thankfully.

Comrade hastalavictoria, what are you wanting to do exactly? I mean, its dangerous stuff. However I would definately advise you to read Che&#39;s writings on the subject to start off with. Reading texts on the Cuban revolution and other successful revolutions achieved via guerilla warfare will help aid your learning.

[Red Heretic]

Che&#39;s stuff is pretty weak... and it historically leads to alienation from that masses because Che advocated the usage of guerilla army, without a political party that could stay rooted in the cities and towns for extended periods of time. Instead, Che&#39;s plan for guerilla warfare forced him to be constantly on the move, and ultimately cut their army off from the masses (and got him killed&#33;)...

Mao&#39;s "On Guerilla Warfare" is really good, imho.

[communist fanatic]

The great desperation of the enemy army ... will be to find something to receive its blows. Instead it will find a gelatinous mass, in movement, impenetrable, that constantly retreats and never presents a solid front, though it inflicts wounds from every side.

Che Guevara. Guerrilla Warfare

[bcbm]

Originally posted by Red [email protected] 16 2005, 09:40 AM
Che&#39;s stuff is pretty weak... and it historically leads to alienation from that masses because Che advocated the usage of guerilla army, without a political party that could stay rooted in the cities and towns for extended periods of time. Instead, Che&#39;s plan for guerilla warfare forced him to be constantly on the move, and ultimately cut their army off from the masses (and got him killed&#33;)...

Mao&#39;s "On Guerilla Warfare" is really good, imho.
Many guerrillas have suffered from this. The RAF had a similar problem, and go into some detail about it in their final communique.

So to any would-be guerrillas, make sure to have a political and military wing.

[Guerrilla22]

Che actually took a lot of his stuff fromMao&#39;s book, I would even suggest reading his book. The thing about Che was his focal theory worked one time out of three, largely because the camapigns in the Congo and Bolivia did not have a whole lot of support behind them. US specail forces also have adopted a few strategies from On Guerrilla Warfare, if you don&#39;t have the book get it somehow.

[Rawthentic]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2005, 06:05 AM

I want to be thr revolutionary doctor. I will also fight if needed, however I am prone to fits of athsma
Wannabe Che much? lol. I also suffer from athsma but not as bad as Che had thankfully.

Comrade hastalavictoria, what are you wanting to do exactly? I mean, its dangerous stuff. However I would definately advise you to read Che&#39;s writings on the subject to start off with. Reading texts on the Cuban revolution and other successful revolutions achieved via guerilla warfare will help aid your learning.
Oh no man, Im not crazy or anything like that. I just know that if a revokution fighting against capitalism and imperialism spurs out, then im joining in. I probably shouldnt have been so open. I know its dangerous, but i am willing. thanks fro the tips comrade.

[novemba]

hmmmmmmm this thread gave me an idea

[Rawthentic]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2005, 02:40 PM
hmmmmmmm this thread gave me an idea
what is it?

[sovietsniper]

Hes banned, gess well never know.....

[viva le revolution]

"guerrilla warfare" by che guevara.

" guerrilla warfare: a method" by che guevara.

"guerrilla warfare" by mao zedong.

" on protracted war" by mao zedong.

[Rawthentic]

Originally posted by viva le [email protected] 18 2005, 10:32 AM
"guerrilla warfare" by che guevara.

" guerrilla warfare: a method" by che guevara.

"guerrilla warfare" by mao zedong.

" on protracted war" by mao zedong.
What do these books have to do with his great idea?

[Punk Rocker]

If you want to know about guerilla fighting, anything by Mao is good shit.

He&#39;s the best guerilla leader ever because he won the revolution in such a huge country and overcame so many enemies, the fascists, the imperialists, the warlords, using guerilla fighting.

Che was kick ass, dont get me wrong, but he did loose two revolutions that were much easier than the chinese revolution.

[Rawthentic]

thanks for the tips punk rocker

[RASH chris]

www.paladin-press.com has tons and tons of guerrilla startegy books, military manuals, and real accounts from guerrillas. It&#39;s also filled with texts on how to make your own sub-machine gun, imporvised artillery devices, how to construct underground networks, how to live underground etc. You could probably spend &#036;5,000 at that site.

www.akpress.com has lots of stuff on left wing armed struggle.