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Revolution67
10th November 2005, 09:01
What were the various Soviet achievements in science and technology apart from their space and military technological achievements, which most of the people are aware of? How about progress made in various branches such as medicines, energy, bio-technology, chemicals, mathematics etc.

Dark Exodus
14th November 2005, 07:37
Militarily, the sloped armour present on the T-34 tank was quite a step.

farleft
14th November 2005, 14:40
Whats funny about their space advances is that they are still being used today, when the US messed up with columbia the only thing going to space and the space station was soviet technology :lol:

Qwerty Dvorak
14th November 2005, 19:22
heehee, i heard the yanks spent like millions on researching a pen that would work in space, and the russians brought a pencil :P

Comrade Yastrebkov
14th November 2005, 21:24
Yeh that story's true! There's a Russian writer - Maxim Kalashnikov who writes alot about Soviet technology and how it all went to waste after the break up of the USSR. He focuses on military achievements though.

ÑóẊîöʼn
14th November 2005, 21:58
Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 07:22 PM
heehee, i heard the yanks spent like millions on researching a pen that would work in space, and the russians brought a pencil :P
False (http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/spacepen.asp) according to Snopes.com

Goatse
14th November 2005, 22:15
Is Snopes all you link to? Everytime someone posts a thread, you prove it false with that site. :P

Guerrilla22
15th November 2005, 06:51
They invented the automobile.

ÑóẊîöʼn
16th November 2005, 01:46
Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 10:20 PM
Is Snopes all you link to? Everytime someone posts a thread, you prove it false with that site. :P
Namely I want to root out all urban myths and fairy tales that lots of poepl seem to hold in their head.

ÑóẊîöʼn
16th November 2005, 01:47
Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2005, 06:56 AM
They invented the automobile.
Really? Do tell.

Don't Change Your Name
16th November 2005, 03:40
Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2005, 01:51 AM
Namely I want to root out all urban myths and fairy tales that lots of poepl seem to hold in their head.
Yeah, did you know we use less than 15% of our brain? Well, a lot of people does know that.

And they are wrong.

FleasTheLemur
16th November 2005, 03:53
This is kind of a diverision from the question, but still.

As for non-Miltary/Space scientific achivements? I don't know of any serious ones, but I do know that the Arts flourished in the USSR, expecially during the 60-70s. I also hear the Soviet's version of Winnie the Pooh is better.

As for Marxist-ish nations in general, the Cubans have a diverse bio-medical field. They hold a vaccine for some illment.. I can't remember.

BorisB
16th November 2005, 13:17
Did you know that NASA has placed an order for 2 Soyuz capsules and 2 Progress Rockets. Hahahah the simple but rugged Russian technology is superior to the billion dollar american one.

farleft
16th November 2005, 13:23
Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2005, 01:22 PM
Did you know that NASA has placed an order for 2 Soyuz capsules and 2 Progress Rockets. Hahahah the simple but rugged Russian technology is superior to the billion dollar american one.
It shouldnt come as a suprise really. Something made in a communist country (not refering to Soviet Russia but in general) should always be able to produce something supperior to what a capitalist country can.

ÑóẊîöʼn
16th November 2005, 13:34
That might have something to do with the fact that NASA has had it's funding slashed to practically nothing.

fernando
22nd November 2005, 18:49
Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2005, 03:58 AM
As for Marxist-ish nations in general, the Cubans have a diverse bio-medical field. They hold a vaccine for some illment.. I can't remember.
I read somewhere once that Cuba made a vaccin against lung cancer:


CUBAN VACCINE AGAINST LUNG CANCER
Clinical trial to begin in U.S. in 2005
• Batches to be manufactured at new plant constructed at the Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology Center

BY LILLIAM RIERA —Granma International staff writer—

• THE Cuban therapeutic vaccine against lung cancer is to move onto the clinical trials stage in the United States for its subsequent registration in that country, according to José Miyar Barruecos, secretary of the Council of State.

Lung cancer causes more than half a million deaths per year in the United States.

Developed in the Center for Molecular Immunology (CIM), one of the institutes within the West Havana Scientific Complex, the vaccine is based on the epidermal growth factor (EGF) – a protein closely related to cellular growth – and was submitted for clinical trials on the island with evident advantages for patients’ survival.

Inside the CIM’s modern laboratories, a total of 22 products are under investigation, including monoclonal antibodies such as CIMAher (used with promising results on brain and neck tumors, in combination with radiotherapy) and therapeutic vaccines for the treatment of cancer.

It was also announced that important investments in the center will allow scientists to cover national demand of CIMAher (registered in Cuba in 2002 and patented in 17 nations, including the U.S.) and begin exportation.

During a tour of various sections of the Center by Health Minister Dr. José Ramón Balaguer, it was also reported that a new plant has recently been constructed at the Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology Center (CIGB) specifically devoted to manufacturing the batches destined for the EGF vaccine’s clinical trial.

The plant, expected to begin production in the first trimester of the coming year, boasts state-of-the-art technology from the so-called First World.

On July 15 of this year in the Cuban capital, CIM and U.S. firm CancerVax Corporation in California signed an agreement – the first in 40 years – in the presence of President Fidel Castro, for the transference of biotechnological technology for the cooperative production of anti-cancer vaccines.

The fact that there is no tradition of South to North transference of technology – particularly in the field of biotechnology, was highlighted on that occasion by CIM director Dr. Agustin Lage, who recalled the contact between the Cancervax Corporation and this Cuban institution in 2001 when the island produced the first clinical results for its vaccine against lung cancer.

The CIM director also recalled that following this, Donald Morton, director and chief surgeon for the John Wayne Cancer Institute in Los Angeles visited Cuba and set in motion the contact process that, after more than three years of negotiations, resulted in the signing of the agreement.

Dr. Morton described the Cuban anti-cancer vaccines – designed to stimulate the immunological system – as a “unique and unprecedented discovery” during a video message sent to the participants at the signing of the agreement.

INGREDIENTS FOR ANTI-MENINGITIS, PNEUMONIA AND OTITIS TO BE PRODUCED

At the CIGB’s other new plant – in operation since August – technicians are producing the active pharmaceutical ingredients for the Cuban vaccine against Type B Hemophilus influenzae, a bacterium responsible for an significant percentage of meningitis, pneumonia and otitis cases, causing the deaths of half a million children worldwide.

The only one of its kind in the world to reach laboratory level, this vaccine – trade name Quimi-Hib – “will permit the country to save between two and three million dollars a year from imports used in the National Immunization Program,” Dr. Vicente Vérez Bencomo, the vaccine’s principal author, explained to Granma International in an interview in June 2003.

Capable of producing 10 million doses a year – enough to cover 100% of the country’s needs – this plant can increase its production fivefold to meet important exports for the World Health Organization.

Investments in technological equipment at CIGB have also favored an increase in the productive capacity and quality of interferons, both for national use and export.

It will also allow them to duplicate the volume of production of the compound vaccine against Hepatitis B (Heberbiovac HB). Next year, the center may well be able to manufacture close to six million infant doses, a figure that would present a great opportunity to supply other regions of the world with this medicament.

I think it was from the Grandma website, not sure though

encephalon
22nd November 2005, 19:38
http://ccablog.blogspot.com/2005/11/soviet...aphic-maps.html (http://ccablog.blogspot.com/2005/11/soviet-topographic-maps.html)

That's pretty impressive, especially considering that it was before useful satellite technology.

The United States is also recycling the soviet rocket program (for a profit, of course). As it turns out, the soviets were rather ahead of their time in rocketry, and some of the problems they had with their innovations (a large grid of very small boosters, for instance, instead of 3 large ones; modular designs, etc) weren't possible to fix until now.. shortly after the right-wing coup :P Oh, and they were also the pioneers of unmanned space flight, which the US has picked up on a lot since the fall of the soviets.

In any case, the technology was extremely top secret, but now that it's out we've discovered they were much more advanced (and had much greater aspirations) than we thought before. I thought it was worth mentioning, since most people just focus on the fact that they were first to space, etc.

Oh, and don't forget: T-E-T-R-I-S! Although frankly it wasn't born in a socialist society.. just the remains of the Soviet Union.

BorisB
22nd December 2005, 22:53
Lets not forget the fastest passenger and military planes ever made where Soviet
Tupolev TU 144 and the MiG 25 (3800 kmh).

1984
7th January 2006, 23:35
The Soviets put some serious efforts on hydraulics/fluid mechanics, aerodynamics and modern/nuclear physics also.

Almost forgot - Lev Landau won the physics Nobel in '62 "for his pioneering theories for condensed matter, especially liquid helium".

(...)

The pen story is famous. Almost a joke, really!

:lol: