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Edelweiss
8th November 2005, 16:34
Those who are into Propagandhi, and already listened to the new record, what do you think of their new record "Potemkin City Limits"?

I think it's fucking brilliant! It's one of the records which becomes better again every time you are listening to it. Both, the music and the lyrics are excelent, as usual for Propagandhi. The record is different again from the last one (less HC, more melodic again, but still not comparable with their first skate punk stuff), but still very convincing again. I like how they completely break with the usual verse-chorus rock n roll sheme, that is making them very unique.

Check http://www.americasarmy.ca/ to listen to the MP3 of "Die Jugend marschiert".

rioters bloc
8th November 2005, 21:14
we probably won't get it here in aus for another 6 months. :/

Bannockburn
12th November 2005, 03:53
The album is growing on me. To tell you the truth, when I first listened to it, I thought it was trash. Didn't like it a bit. I much prefer How to clean everything or Less talk more Rock. Its less heavy obviously than TETA, but it certainly sounds more “mature”. The lyrics are great of course, but that is to be expected. To tell you the truth I was expecting a hybrid of TETA and LTMR in this album. I don't however see any “classics” if Propaganda has any. Without a doubt no song on this album strikes me like “Stick that flag up your ass, you son of a *****”, “Bullshit politicians” “New Homes for Idle Hands” “Fuck the border” Or “and we thought the nation-state was a bad idea”

The Garbage Disposal Unit
14th November 2005, 06:25
I've been quite into Propagandhi for quite some time. In highschool, I had the entire lyrics to ". . . and we thought nationstates were a bad idea" on the back of my ubiquitous hoodie. The lil' essays in "Less Talk . . ." were crucial to shaping my early politics. My first serious band played "Fuck The Border" at all of our early shows.
And, y'know, honestly, I just can't get in to the new album. For all its "melodic" qualities, it lacks the persistent hookiness that has been a hallmark of their better material. Even the really good lines (and there are some really great lines, I mean, fuck the lyrics are more than worth reading) aren't delivered with the urgent and immediate impact I'd come to expect - they're chopped up to make room for some less than satisfying muscial wankery. Is it a bad album? No, probably not, but it didn't meet my expectations the same way "Today's Empires . . ." did.

rioters bloc
14th November 2005, 07:34
less talk more rock was/is amazing

i love nation states, and their pro-animal liberation songs were i think the final push towards me becoming a vegetarian. [although meat is murder by the smiths started it off ;)]

seriously, why do we never get anything in australia til the year after? fucking hell.

Donnie
5th December 2005, 15:32
I really like Propagandhi and there newest album is great. However Left Over Crack are a fair better punk band. Has anyone got their latest album "fuck world trade"? It's great, I recoment it.

Craig
9th December 2005, 22:26
I really fell in love with this album (I wrote a brief review of my initial impressions here (http://www.twolegsbad.org/blog/article.php/164), if anyone cares). It feels like a natural progression from the previous record, and it has been playing virtually nonstop in my car since it was first released. I will admit that I took it out briefly to listen to the older Propagandhi albums -- but only to prepare for their west coast tour (and to rip some MP3s for a couple buddies).

Speaking of the west coast tour, did anyone catch any of the Southern California shows (http://www.twolegsbad.org/blog/article.php/197)? I was at the Anaheim and Hollywood gigs. Both rocked! If you've seen them play in the past, it's obvious that they're not as preachy as they used to be. I recall reading an interview somewhere where they mention that they've mellowed with age.

Ian
13th December 2005, 13:35
The Album has been out in Australia for as long as everywhere else.

I like the music, the lyrics, and the fact Chris has clearly written most of the songs, Todd isn't quite up to Chris' standards at songwriting and Superbowl Patriot shows that.

Cover Art rules and the Liner notes are great to flip through, I'm hoping it comes out on LP because my How to Clean everything LP is a large sheet of liner notes and I find that better.

I've noticed a shift in the lyrics to include an increasing humanist slant, not saying it wasn't always there, but read through them and see if you agree.

Craig
13th December 2005, 18:20
Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2005, 01:35 PM
I like the music, the lyrics, and the fact Chris has clearly written most of the songs, Todd isn't quite up to Chris' standards at songwriting and Superbowl Patriot shows that.
I have to disagree on that point (although it's purely a matter of personal preference). Aesthetically, Todd's rough voice and blunt lyrics have really grown on me. His addition to the band has, in my opinion, really saved them from being just another melodic pop-punk band with a political slant (along the lines of Bad Religion).

Have you ever listened to I Spy (http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/bands/ispy.php)? Todd wrote some really brilliant songs with that band.

Here's a wish that will never come true: hearing Propagandhi play some I Spy covers.

By the way, did anyone catch the interview with Chris Hannah (http://www.twolegsbad.org/blog/article.php/199) (err, uhh, I mean Glen Lambert) over at punknews.org (http://www.punknews.org/)?

Ian
13th December 2005, 23:56
I did read that I think, is it the interview that makes it sound like it might be their last album.

Edelweiss
14th December 2005, 15:29
Originally posted by Craig+Dec 13 2005, 07:20 PM--> (Craig @ Dec 13 2005, 07:20 PM)
[email protected] 13 2005, 01:35 PM
I like the music, the lyrics, and the fact Chris has clearly written most of the songs, Todd isn't quite up to Chris' standards at songwriting and Superbowl Patriot shows that.
I have to disagree on that point (although it's purely a matter of personal preference). Aesthetically, Todd's rough voice and blunt lyrics have really grown on me. His addition to the band has, in my opinion, really saved them from being just another melodic pop-punk band with a political slant (along the lines of Bad Religion).

Have you ever listened to I Spy (http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/bands/ispy.php)? Todd wrote some really brilliant songs with that band.

Here's a wish that will never come true: hearing Propagandhi play some I Spy covers.

By the way, did anyone catch the interview with Chris Hannah (http://www.twolegsbad.org/blog/article.php/199) (err, uhh, I mean Glen Lambert) over at punknews.org (http://www.punknews.org/)? [/b]
I own the very rare Propagandhi/I Spy split record, I already knew most propagandhi songs from it (there is an excelennt, harder version of "Fuck Religion" on it BTW), but I didn't knew I spy before, and I just love them now! i'm also playing them on Radio Rebelde, just like the alternative "Fuck religion" version.

Craig
14th December 2005, 18:00
Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 03:29 PM
I own the very rare Propagandhi/I Spy split record, I already knew most propagandhi songs from it (there is an excelennt, harder version of "Fuck Religion" on it BTW), but I didn't knew I spy before, and I just love them now! i'm also playing them on Radio Rebelde, just like the alternative "Fuck religion" version.
That's a great record. I have a copy of it, too. In a sense, it has become a full 'gandhi record now that Todd has joined the band.

By the way, Propagandhi remastered and rereleased that material on Where Quantity is Job #1, so even though the split EP is out of print, you can still find those tracks. Also, the I Spy material from that disc was rereleased on the the discography called The Perversity is Spreading... It's About Time!.