Myself

[TheLiberal]

I am David, a Social Liberal living in Derbyshire, England. I am active in the Liberal Democrats. I have joined these forums out of an interest in the far Left and its history.

EDIT::- I hope my posting outside the 'opposing ideologies' section is not resented comrades

[bunk]

Er okay, i suppose the LibDems are alright but not really.

You might be interested here, if you haven't already found it http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=42428

[drain.you]

haha, yeah, we were just discussing LibDems a bit vaguely in that thread comrade Josh highlighted.
Welcome to RevLeft anyhow, hope you will enjoy your stay and be morphed into a gruesome commie like the rest of us :P

[Led Zeppelin]

Ewwww, liberals are yucky.

[bulrog]

Bleedin' Hearts.....who needs them.

[TheComrade]

Comradely Greetings David!

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2005, 03:23 PM
I am a Social Liberal
Urgh.

[TheLiberal]

Thankyou for such a warm welcome comrades!

[Amusing Scrotum]

Thankyou for such a warm welcome comrades!

Don't be put off, read and learn and see whether you agree with what we say. Just remember to keep an open mind, thats all we ask for.

[bolshevik butcher]

Well i remember at g8(make poverty history demo), one of your guys came up to us and told us about how we socialists shouldnt be at your meeting. But yeh anyway, welcome, maybe you'll lose all the wishywashiness :P

[Fighter]

There must be levels here of which I am not aware. We have in America liberal Democrats, but not LibDems. Do they bite?

[bolshevik butcher]

They're a centerist party from britain.

[Goatse]

Erm, just a question on LibDems... you propose Council Tax cuts to save every working family £450 per year, give pensioners an extra £100 a month, 10,000 more police officers and better equip the current ones... and if you got to power you'd only increase tax for those who earn over £100,000. You do you suggest we do all this?

[Black Dagger]

Welcome to the boards, but please don't call 'us' 'comrades' :)

[TheLiberal]

In response to ScottishPinko:


you propose Council Tax cuts to save every working family £450 per year,

The Liberal Democrats propose a local income tax based on income rather than the value of property. This will on average benefit 'working' families, especially those with single incomes.


10,000 more police officers and better equip the current ones...

This is an issue of restructuring the police force and favouring time 'on the street' over paperwork. The 10 000 figure is related to Labour's ID card scheme, which if scrapped could fund 10 000 more police office.


and if you got to power you'd only increase tax for those who earn over £100,000. You do you suggest we do all this?

The top rate of tax would fund the abolition of tuition fees, free personal care for the elderly and the transition to Local Income Tax

[Goatse]

Well how much would you actually increase it? You seem to be able to draw a lot of money out of one tax increase.

[TheLiberal]

The increase would be from 50p to 60p on every pound earnt, for those earning over £100 000. It is estimated that had this tax been in place 2005/6 it would have generated £4000m revenue over the current tax.

[TheComrade]

I am not a Party person - I follow ideals - but in the last general election I do admit that I would have voted LibDem because they are the most sensible - most leftist party in the UK (besides CPGB but I don't think they even had a candidate, anywhere.)

[bolshevik butcher]

SSP, SWP, ans RESPECT, are all to the left of libdems and ssp and respect deffinatley ran candidates in some seets.

There's the socialsit party as well, i think they run in some parts of england.

[TheLiberal]

RESPECT is simply a tool for self promotion of George Galloway and has alienated the electorate with its pessemistic, cynical attitude. I understand that most of the other far left parties do not stand where there is a RESPECT candidate anyway.

[bolshevik butcher]

Better respect than the lib dems......

I don't like Galloway mutch, but at least he claims to be a socialist, and I was impressed by his senate performance.

[TheComrade]

I agree (with Clenched Fist) - but where I live the Libdems are the most liberal - Tory, Labour, Lib Dem, UKIP ( :blink: ,) Monster Raving Looney Party ( :lol: ) and some Independent man who got 5 (!!) votes - probably just his family - even then not all of them!! Anyway - as you can see there is little choice....Tories won too so...terrible, terrible!!

[Tekun]

Originally posted by Clenched [email protected] 6 2005, 07:44 PM
Well i remember at g8(make poverty history demo), one of your guys came up to us and told us about how we socialists shouldnt be at your meeting. But yeh anyway, welcome, maybe you'll lose all the wishywashiness :P
U were at the G8?

Hmm, I never really trusted them, but as far as Im concerned - poverty will never cease as long as cappies stay in power

[bolshevik butcher]

Oh, don't worry we werent there as make poverty hsitory. We were their openly as commies. It was great on the march, most people in my groups, socialist appeal and hands of veneuela stayed behiind to look after the stall, we tagged along with these guys form no sweat and we were shouting about workers solidarity and stuff, it was great fun, we got all these stairs from middle class church types. So in the end we had a round off bono bob get a propper job and blair loves geldof STRIKE.

[Tekun]

Originally posted by Clenched [email protected] 9 2005, 10:12 PM
Oh, don't worry we werent there as make poverty hsitory. We were their openly as commies. It was great on the march, most people in my groups, socialist appeal and hands of veneuela stayed behiind to look after the stall, we tagged along with these guys form no sweat and we were shouting about workers solidarity and stuff, it was great fun, we got all these stairs from middle class church types. So in the end we had a round off bono bob get a propper job and blair loves geldof STRIKE.
Great to hear bro
Kuz that naive spectacle reminded me of the march on washington

[bolshevik butcher]

Yeh, it was full of those middle class church types. But we didnt do too badly out of it, got a lot of signatures for hands off venezuela.