People's War in Nepal

[true citizen]

Hundreds of years of oppression has finally awakened an entire society to revolt and shake Nepal and shown the world that revolutions, if conducted properly can be successful and people's demands can be made to be heard by all. Nepal has proved that revolutionaries are not terrorists and that people have very genuine demands and requirements. The monarchs and their supporters of the world need to take heed and pay attention to such revoultions and reevaluate their positions and attitudes. If Nepal can do it so can several other oppressed states in the world. Everyone should be able to live with a certain dignity in this world. No one owns anyone and no one is mightier than the other. Eleven years of revolt has made Nepal into an enlightened nation. Now the Nepalese know what was lying underneath the mountains, boiling and about ready to erupt. Sure the economy is in a mess but its better that than messing up with people's minds before. The country had been subjected to extreme injustice for far too long, both culturally as well as economically. Three cheers to the Rebels who has brought a self realisation wave to over 24 million Nepalese and all the other people in the world too.

[Yazman]

The lack of coverage of the Nepalese revolution is surprising, comrade. It will be interesting to see how this revolution turns out. As it stands, it seems they are making good progress, although there has been very little coverage as of late so it is hard to make judgments.

At any rate, I support this revolution and the revolutionaries behind it.

[Sons_of_Eureka]

The peoples revolutionary forces in Nepal are essential for the purpass of sending socialism through India,bhutan and other nations with Maoist activity.They shall hopefully bring about the first real revolution in the 21st century.

[donnie_middel1]

From what ive been told they control all but the capital, and if u want to learn more, the revolutionary communist party of canada, { no affiliation to bob avakian } has a dvd and lots of info on them ar there website, www.pcr-rcpcanada.org

[violencia.Proletariat]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 12:05 PM
The lack of coverage of the Nepalese revolution is surprising, comrade. It will be interesting to see how this revolution turns out. As it stands, it seems they are making good progress, although there has been very little coverage as of late so it is hard to make judgments.

At any rate, I support this revolution and the revolutionaries behind it.
the maoists are in a ceasefire until the beggining of december

[karmaradical]

Indeed, currently they are negotiating with various other groups to gain alliances. The war as i understand, has gotten dirty.

[Guerrilla22]

Progress by the revolutionaries is being halted by a lack of arms. In quite a few of their operations they use homemade weapons. If someone could get them some things might change. Unfortunately China wants no part of the revolution and is denying them arms.

[Red Heretic]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2005, 03:50 PM
From what ive been told they control all but the capital, and if u want to learn more, the revolutionary communist party of canada, { no affiliation to bob avakian } has a dvd and lots of info on them ar there website, www.pcr-rcpcanada.org
Uhm... The RCPC is a Maoist party in Canada seeking admission into the Revolutionary Internationalist Movement (which is a world wide international of legitimate communist parties). The RCP USA is also a member of the RIM. I'm not sure what your avakian-phobia is all about, but whatever.

Either way, the recent lack of coverage over the Nepalese revolution is predominately because of the three month cease fire, declared by the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist), which the Party is using to go into the cities to ensure its popularity and approval, and to make its aims known. In the cities, very few people know what the aim of the Party are, so it is necessary to enter into the cities and talk to people before entering with the people's army. This is all a part of the preparation for taking state power in Nepal.

Normally I try to post articles that I recieve, but lately I've been cut off because of a crisis in my life. You guys can get weekly dispatches from Nepal by subscribing to the A World to Win News Service newsletter at www.awtw.org

[Red Heretic]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2005, 10:03 PM
Progress by the revolutionaries is being halted by a lack of arms. In quite a few of their operations they use homemade weapons. If someone could get them some things might change. Unfortunately China wants no part of the revolution and is denying them arms.
There is no "lack of arms." The strategy of protracted people's war has allowed the CPNM to actually control the majority of the weapons that the Americans and Indian have sold to the monarchy. Before the ceasefire which was declared to make preparations for taking state power, the People's Army won two major battles.

Not only is China not supporting the revolution, two days ago it made a statement that it will be selling weapons to the monarchy, and is also considering sending troops to India to put down the Maoist revolutionaries who have begun a revolution in India inspired by the Nepalese revolution.

[Rojo]

I've got several friends that have travelled there last year and they told me that the maoists weren't nice guys. They held up my teachers bus with guns and asked for money and a camera. But then again I guess this is kind of a good thing because they are stealing from the bourgiese.

[Red Heretic]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 01:59 AM
I've got several friends that have travelled there last year and they told me that the maoists weren't nice guys. They held up my teachers bus with guns and asked for money and a camera. But then again I guess this is kind of a good thing because they are stealing from the bourgiese.
BULLSHIT. The PLA is KNOWN for never having stolen ANYTHING from the masses, EVER. They are known however to ask for donations. Even the bourgeois press has admitted this fact time after time.

[Phalanx]

Originally posted by Red [email protected] 8 2005, 05:33 PM
Not only is China not supporting the revolution, two days ago it made a statement that it will be selling weapons to the monarchy, and is also considering sending troops to India to put down the Maoist revolutionaries who have begun a revolution in India inspired by the Nepalese revolution.
Well, I'm not too surprised, as China fell to capitalism a while ago. The country seems more communist in name only.

Does anyone get National Geographic? They had an article about the Revolution, but it really seemed to be propoganda against the Maoists than anything. They did admit though that the Monarchy has killed around 8,000 Napalese citizens, while the Maoists have killed around 4,000 (rough estimates, I can't remember the exact numbers. I think this is also flawed. The majority of fatalities caused by the Maoists have been security personnel and bourgeoisie. I think it's only a matter of time before the Maoists fly the red flag over Everest. Too bad FARC's struggle couldn't have been this fast paced.

[Scars]

Originally posted by Red Heretic+Nov 9 2005, 04:14 AM--> (Red Heretic @ Nov 9 2005, 04:14 AM)
[email protected] 9 2005, 01:59 AM
I've got several friends that have travelled there last year and they told me that the maoists weren't nice guys. They held up my teachers bus with guns and asked for money and a camera. But then again I guess this is kind of a good thing because they are stealing from the bourgiese.
BULLSHIT. The PLA is KNOWN for never having stolen ANYTHING from the masses, EVER. They are known however to ask for donations. Even the bourgeois press has admitted this fact time after time. [/b]
No, they never take things for the sheer joy of taking it and if they are literate they are meant to give a list of everything that they took to the person, for insurance purposes and the like. Maoist guerrillas in the shits have 'robbed' hikers and the like. It's never for personal material gain.

And tourists don't count as 'the masses', so they have stopped buses and burnt them etc- but they don't target or attack any tourists. In fact they've issued a statement warning that there IS a war taking place in Nepal and thus tourists may find themsleves in danger due to Maoist attacks etc.

In addition to this there will be 'bad apples' in ANY army- revolutionary or otherwise. Humans are falliable creatures.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Whenever I come across the whines of people on threads like this, I can only think of a quotes, "A revolution is not a bed of roses".

In ANY revolution there will be excesses, mistakes, etc. But what do you really expect? And ask yourself if it is justified.. even if the Maoists killed 4,000 civilians (which I highly doubt), is this not justified if the revolution prevents the starvation of millions in the coming years??

[Revolution67]

The Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) has been carrying on 'Maha Jan Yudh' or People's War in Nepal for the last ten years. Starting in February 1996, the Maoists now control almost 80% of Nepal. The Royal Nepalese Army has been facing desertations, as more and more soldiers are joining Maoist ranks. The movement is being led by Chairman Prachanda alias Pushpa Kamal Dahal and Comrade (Dr.) Baburam Bhattarai. Though of late, Nepal has been going through a period of silence, but this can seen as a fore-warning of the impending final thrust to dislodge the monarchy.

For ages, Nepal has continued to be an impoverished nation, with people having no "viable" source for livelihood. One can see thousands of Nepalese people living in India and working like dogs for meagre wages. The situation in the remote mountainous regions of Himalayas, one can witness extreme poverty and a total cut off from modern civilisation. The society is feudal in structure and the people are just rotting living corpses. Poverty has forced many Nepalese women into flesh trade in the dirty, dingy brothels across metros in India and Bangladesh. Most of the Nepalese men either join the Indian Army or the British Army as mercenaries, because Royal Nepalese Army cannot give them the benefits, which the Indian Army or the British army can provide.

India media, as is the case with other corporate owned media groups round the globe, is conviniently portraying Maoists as "terrorists" and carrying out stories of their "excesses" from time to time. It is never reported in the mainstream media how the Maoists freed the bonded laborers working under feudal lords by burning all the papers related to loan and property. It never gets reported how Maoists have smashed the network of illicit liqour across Nepal through sustained efforts. These things never get reported, only concocted stories of Maoist excesses gain the headlines. Though there have been reports of villagers turning on the Maoists and killing a few of them but the authenticity of such stories cannot be verified.

Red Heretic, is the guy on your avatar Comrade Prachanda? I am asking because I have seen Prachanda's pic and your avatar looks like him.

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In a class driven society, you cannot be sincere to all classes and I am sincere to my class.

- Comrade (Dr.) Baburam Bhattarai, General Secretary, Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist)

[comradeadam]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2005, 03:50 PM
From what ive been told they control all but the capital, and if u want to learn more, the revolutionary communist party of canada, { no affiliation to bob avakian } has a dvd and lots of info on them ar there website, www.pcr-rcpcanada.org
Hello comrade i was wondering

1)how much was that dvd?
2)how do you get it?


Yours truly
Comrade Adam

[Red Heretic]

Well, even though a revolution "is not a bed of roses," the fact remains that the CPNM views tourists as friends to be talked with, and has notably never harmed/robbed/threatened any Tourist, period.

Yes, the guy in my avatar is Comrade Prachanda, Chairman of the CPNM :-)

Currectly, the DVD can be purchased from the RCP Canada, or ordered from the Maoist Revolution Yahoo Group centered in Great Britain. I already posted the DVD on bittorrent some time ago, but I think the torrent has died. Me and my comrades are currently working on a website project that will allow users to download DVD's from the Maoist parites of Nepal, India, and the Phillipines soon. The project will be called World Revolution Media, and will be availible soon (hopefully).

[comradeadam]

Originally posted by Red [email protected] 9 2005, 05:22 PM
Well, even though a revolution "is not a bed of roses," the fact remains that the CPNM views tourists as friends to be talked with, and has notably never harmed/robbed/threatened any Tourist, period.

Yes, the guy in my avatar is Comrade Prachanda, Chairman of the CPNM :-)

Currectly, the DVD can be purchased from the RCP Canada, or ordered from the Maoist Revolution Yahoo Group centered in Great Britain. I already posted the DVD on bittorrent some time ago, but I think the torrent has died. Me and my comrades are currently working on a website project that will allow users to download DVD's from the Maoist parites of Nepal, India, and the Phillipines soon. The project will be called World Revolution Media, and will be availible soon (hopefully).
Cool ill go and track down this dvd and when this site gets up post it here.

[Phalanx]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 05:45 AM
Whenever I come across the whines of people on threads like this, I can only think of a quotes, "A revolution is not a bed of roses".

In ANY revolution there will be excesses, mistakes, etc. But what do you really expect? And ask yourself if it is justified.. even if the Maoists killed 4,000 civilians (which I highly doubt), is this not justified if the revolution prevents the starvation of millions in the coming years??
I never said that the Maoists killed 4,000 civilians, I said citizens. The army is full of citizens (unless they have a disproportionate amount of foreign mercenaries fighting for them) so are bougeoisie. I said that the information was probably flawed. I even said I hope the red flag flew over Everest! How was I "whining about the revolution?

[Rojo]

BULLSHIT. The PLA is KNOWN for never having stolen ANYTHING from the masses, EVER. They are known however to ask for donations. Even the bourgeois press has admitted this fact time after time.

Its not BS man these are people that I really trust. Though they said that the Maoists were really friendly about everything.

[More Fire for the People]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 09:37 PM

BULLSHIT. The PLA is KNOWN for never having stolen ANYTHING from the masses, EVER. They are known however to ask for donations. Even the bourgeois press has admitted this fact time after time.

Its not BS man these are people that I really trust. Though they said that the Maoists were really friendly about everything.
Yes, and my mother believes that the Allies were the USA, UK, and Italy and that the Axis was the Soviet Union and Germany because they were both communist. Why? Because her close Italian and German friends told her so.

[Red Heretic]

Wait, so let me get this straight...

You friend claims a bunch of friendly Maoists stopped their bus and stole their money in a friendly way? Hahahahhahaha, that doesn't even make sense!

Let look at this objectively. Its common procedure of the Maoists to talk to tourists at bus stops and other tourist locations about the revolution, and they ask for donations to support the revolution. If they had EVER robbed tourists, the bourgeois/imperialist press would be all over that shit.

[Rojo]

yes they did they came up and didn't get angry they just asked for a camera and some other stuff before they would let there bus through. i'm not lying.

[Revolution67]

yes they did they came up and didn't get angry they just asked for a camera and some other stuff before they would let there bus through. i'm not lying.

Maybe he/she is right. Afterall, in militarized zone and locations of strategic importance, people are prohibited to carry cameras or take photographs. Maoists must asked the tourists to surrender their camera out of security concerns.

[Red Heretic]

lol, no.

The Maoists encourage people to take photographs of the liberated areas of the country to show people all of the incredible things that are happening.

They might have asked for the camera as a donation if your friend had expressed support for the revolution... but they have a strict policy against stealing from tourists, and (as I said before) even the bourgeois press commends them for never robbing or harming a tourist.

[Reds]

Perhaps thives or the government acting like maoists.

[Rojo]

Well then these guys must have been not following orders or something.

Another incident that happened to another one of my friends got their bus stopped and they were asked to give up their money and when they did they were given a reciet by the maoists apparently so they could prove to anyone else stopping the bus that the passengers had already paid.

I don't however have a problem with that its sounds like a pretty organized revolution over there. Also I heard that the monarchy is pretty crazy and that one son killed a whole bunch of family members or something like that. Does anyone have any good sites on the Nepalese revolution?

[Rojo]

Perhaps thives or the government acting like maoists.

I think thats probably the most likely explanation. The robbers claimed to be maoists but they could have just been average thieves.