Oldies

[Martyr]

Anyone love the oldies? My favourite time peroid is the sixties for music because it was a time for dreamers to express emotion in the musical art and thought. Anyways anyone else like the oldies of any genre of music rock,jazz,soul etc.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

dude, the sixties were the best time for music, i think it got steadily worse from there, then picked up in the past few years

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2005, 01:37 AM
dude, the sixties were the best time for music, i think it got steadily worse from there, then picked up in the past few years
I don't agree with your statements. If you don't mind please offer some examples of how music has gotten better in the past few years. I'd argue that it has gotten much worse especially with the rise of techno, house etc.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I agree with celtopunk on that.
I dig a lot of 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s music... but I agree: the 60s easily trump any other decade.
I don't like the distinction of music according to decade... but if you must, the 60s win. There was an amazing amount of good music, and not much bad... at least of what we remember.

[Atlas Swallowed]

Thier was alot of awesome music in the 60s, especially the mid to late 60's. The Beatles, the Doors, Hendrix, The Who to name a few. As great as this music is I enjoy late 70s and eighties punk the most.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

Originally posted by celtopunk+Nov 2 2005, 03:29 AM--> (celtopunk @ Nov 2 2005, 03:29 AM)
[email protected] 2 2005, 01:37 AM
dude, the sixties were the best time for music, i think it got steadily worse from there, then picked up in the past few years
I don't agree with your statements. If you don't mind please offer some examples of how music has gotten better in the past few years. I'd argue that it has gotten much worse especially with the rise of techno, house etc. [/b]
yes, but i would say techno, house etc peaked in the 90s. the 90s were like rock bottom for music as far as i'm concerned. its just if you look at the rock scene now, it kinda had a really good year in 2001, and ever since then there have been lots of excellent rock acts, such as nine black alps, who are fairly recent, and also, some rock acts have gotten better in the past few years, the already brilliant tool outdid themselves in 2001 with their lateralus album, and slipknot's vol. 3 was, in my opinion, the first respectable album they've had. in my opinion.

[Alice in Ganjaland]

Music has declined with the advancement of the music industry, I honestly think. There are exceptions, but you have mass made fakies like Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson, etc. They do have some catchy songs songs but really aren't anything special.

For me, the best time period for music back in the day was from the 1940s-1970s. I love disco :D and the folk-inspired songs of the sixties like Guantanamera etc...Classic Jazz, Blues, Reggae are also my favorites.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Guatanamera has nothing to do with American folk


disco blows

the music industry already existed in the '40s-'70s
in fact, record companies have been creating musical groups since the 60s
maybe before that even

[Alice in Ganjaland]

Guatanamera has nothing to do with American folk
Sorry I meant FOLK-POP. :rolleyes:


disco blows
And that's just your crappy opinion if you think disco blows. :rolleyes: It's funny, I like it.


the music industry already existed in the '40s-'70s
in fact, record companies have been creating musical groups since the 60s
maybe before that even
Sure, but at least most of the music sounded great and at least had some kind of intelligence and was COHERENT.

[rioters bloc]

60's were amazing

as were the 80s

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Originally posted by Alice in [email protected] 2 2005, 07:11 PM

Guatanamera has nothing to do with American folk
Sorry I meant FOLK-POP. :rolleyes:


disco blows
And that's just your crappy opinion if you think disco blows. :rolleyes: It's funny, I like it.


the music industry already existed in the '40s-'70s
in fact, record companies have been creating musical groups since the 60s
maybe before that even
Sure, but at least most of the music sounded great and at least had some kind of intelligence and was COHERENT.
I see you're from Trinidad...
sorry
I thought you were calling Guantanamera an American folk song
sorry
most members are American or British.

disco still blows

and you said that music was better when there was no record industry... but the presence of large, powerful, overbearing record labels has existed since the emergence of popular music.

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

The 60s were pretty good for music. By decades I would say I like the 60s, 80s and now the 00s the most. The 90s were pretty horrible. There were a few decent things but it mostly just sucked. And if you're willing to look past the bad musicians and the pseudo-non-mainstream losers there are plenty of decent bands right now.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Originally posted by rioters [email protected] 3 2005, 12:54 AM
60's were amazing

as were the 80s
The 80s?? Surely you're kidding... it was almost as bad as the current state of things - a period of severe reaction and corporatism - and the music reflected it.

[bcbm]

The 80s?? Surely you're kidding... it was almost as bad as the current state of things - a period of severe reaction and corporatism - and the music reflected it.

The 80's made sXe hardcore and Modern English. Therefore they're good.

As for oldies, my favorite "oldies" artist is Freddy Fender. It doesn't get any better than heartbroken Tejano cowboy songs.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

I never heard of any of those people you mentioned, so I stick what I said.. lol

The good oldies to me are groups like Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young; Clearance Clearwater Revival; Steppenwolf; Neil Young; Led Zeppelin; The Who; Bad Company; the Allman Brothers; Steely Dan; etc.

[FatFreeMilk]

Originally posted by black banner black [email protected] 2 2005, 11:09 PM


As for oldies, my favorite "oldies" artist is Freddy Fender. It doesn't get any better than heartbroken Tejano cowboy songs.
Are you joking or are you serious?


When I think oldies I think Sunday nights with Art Laboe and anglisized Mexicans and cholos calling in to request "'I'm your puppet' to sad sleepy in the city of Hesperia from baby girl in Fontana listening to 99.1 KGGI".

Don't get me wrong, I love some oldies, but I get turned off be the oldies cholo crowd that tends to listen to it.

Killer Oldies! (http://www.killeroldies.com/artlaboe.htm)

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

OH SHIT! I forgot the Doors!! :D

[Alice in Ganjaland]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2005, 09:39 PM
I see you're from Trinidad...
sorry
I thought you were calling Guantanamera an American folk song
sorry
most members are American or British.
:lol:

You know it's one love. No scene brother man. :)


disco still blows
Nah you know you love disco deep down inside :lol: . When no one's watching and you're home alone you turn up KC and the Sunshine band loud when you're in the shower :lol:

I'm not a hardcore disco fan or anything, I like a good few songs that's all. :)



and you said that music was better when there was no record industry... but the presence of large, powerful, overbearing record labels has existed since the emergence of popular music.
True, true. I know what you're saying.
I don't know much about the American music industry back in the day, so excuse my ignorance about them. But I don't think they were on this level of manipulation that the music industry of Today demonstrates. Pop music wasn't that bad back in the day, but now it's horrible.

[Martyr]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2005, 11:23 PM
OH SHIT! I forgot the Doors!! :D
My fav band

[Ginger Goodwin]

;)

[VonClausewitz]

The oldest bands I listen to are the aforemention The Doors, and the lords of Rock - Led Zeppelin.

For me personally, I'd say music had it's lull during the 90's early 2000's - Grunge and Nu-Metal aren't exactly loved scenes anymore, and the poppy music of that time was frankly crap.

If I may, I'll throw together my skewed timeline-view of it all (hope someone likes this)

1960's - stereotypical free-love era, huge bands, huge Free concerts, some great music
1970's - the 60's giants dead or in decline, the rise of Heavy Metal, and Punk's first tantrum, also the time for unashamed glam.
1980's - the rise and fall of the 70's Heavy Metal giants, the era of Hair Metal and Kate Bush, admit it, if you had to choose between Slipknot and Motley Crue, you'd break out the spandex and go party for three days. Also, all hail the new romantics.

Towards the end of the decade, we see the second major tantrum of punk, and the creation of all this straightedgexcore oddness, which the media have happily jumped all over and ruined.

1990's - Rock stagnates, produces dullards who whine about everything, and then dullards who whine and swear about everything. Kate Bush runs away from the world. Pop music is terrible, not even terrible in the good Cinderella way, it's just crap.

Current Period - Kate Bush is back, the dullards are all gone almost (slipknot are getting smaller day by day, and grunge is gone), hell, even pop music is getting listenable (possibly due to the re-appearance of Kate, we may never know.....)

[farleft]

Big Audio Dynamite 80's
Clash 70's/80's
Kinks 60's
who 60's
beatles 60's

I love those bands

[The Grey Blur]

Originally posted by Ginger [email protected] 5 2005, 09:34 AM
Comrades should check out "Phil Ochs".
Far left American folksinger from the 60's and 70's.
"You're not an artist Ochs you're a journalist!"

- Bob Dylan shouting to Phil Ochs after Ochs is kicked out of Dylan's car for suggesting that 'Please Crawl Out Your Window' wouldn't be a commercial hit.... :lol:...he was right...

[The Grey Blur]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 06:50 AM
The oldest bands I listen to are the aforemention The Doors, and the lords of Rock - Led Zeppelin.

For me personally, I'd say music had it's lull during the 90's early 2000's - Grunge and Nu-Metal aren't exactly loved scenes anymore, and the poppy music of that time was frankly crap.

If I may, I'll throw together my skewed timeline-view of it all (hope someone likes this)

1960's - stereotypical free-love era, huge bands, huge Free concerts, some great music
1970's - the 60's giants dead or in decline, the rise of Heavy Metal, and Punk's first tantrum, also the time for unashamed glam.
1980's - the rise and fall of the 70's Heavy Metal giants, the era of Hair Metal and Kate Bush, admit it, if you had to choose between Slipknot and Motley Crue, you'd break out the spandex and go party for three days. Also, all hail the new romantics.

Towards the end of the decade, we see the second major tantrum of punk, and the creation of all this straightedgexcore oddness, which the media have happily jumped all over and ruined.

1990's - Rock stagnates, produces dullards who whine about everything, and then dullards who whine and swear about everything. Kate Bush runs away from the world. Pop music is terrible, not even terrible in the good Cinderella way, it's just crap.

Current Period - Kate Bush is back, the dullards are all gone almost (slipknot are getting smaller day by day, and grunge is gone), hell, even pop music is getting listenable (possibly due to the re-appearance of Kate, we may never know.....)
What an ass-wipe

[Le People]

I am of the belief that the sixty four to eighty five were the best years for music. Led Zepplin, Pink Floyd, the Doors, and the Who are the best. Don't forget Hendrix, or the Clash.

[Rockfan]

Late 60's, 70's and 90's man, thats were its at.

90's were great grunge man, dirty smelly guy all from Seattle, yeah I love grunge. Alice In Chains, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam and my favorite non-grunge band from the 90's Tool!

[Le People]

My opion is most bands today rip off what the orginals did and do a shit job at. I swear that Greenday butchers any Clash sound you can think of.

[Don't Change Your Name]

I hate the word "Oldies".
And I'm tired of this kind of discussions.

If anyone cares, the 60s and 70s were better than than 80s and 90s by far, even if this last 2 decades had their moments. I have grown to appreciate many 80s and 90s artists, even if they aren't/weren't as original or consistent as most bands were in the previous 2 decades.

Lots of interesting stuff can be found in the 80s btw. But I still think it was a weak era for rock music and related.