Zangetsu
1st November 2005, 00:32
some ppl migh remember this type of thing from me in the past... i hope this is the right forum for this; i am slightly drunk... i hope this is cohesive :lol:
There are distortions in how our economic condition has manifested itself that have created threats to the criteria neccessary for a viable socialist revolution.
I think America has dislocated a large prolaterian element from itself and externalized it, ie it has exported the bulk of its class enemy. It has exported it to Africa, and South America also perhaps... and South East Asia too... By exploiting foriegn labour, with foriegn invested capital. It imports the profits from these foriegn ventures, while keeping itself divorced from the threats this exploitation produces. Its a kind new slavery/neo-colonialism pheunonum.
I have not formaly studied economics... and it occurs to me, this foriegn exploitation does not neccessarily have a great effect in releaving rich, first world countries like America, of a prolaterian proportional to the size of its population that one might find in more mixed countries... Such as Brazil and South Africa... But i submitt (and this is with no data, just from my general impression of Europe and the majority of US) that because America has out-sourced most of its material requirements (i mean material as in physical goods, corporeal things), it is left with a quite a lot of rich people utalizing lots of personal services (which is a term i derrive from my high school Bussiness studies class, so please forgive any miss terminology... which is likley to occur also from my slight inebriation, my spelling on the other hand has never been any good, im sorry :( ). So this then accounts for the excess of lawyers etc. Which i think i might use as an example in how the same way consumption of material goods has become frivolous and excessive, services too have been extended to sustain an acceptable level of employment. So i guess my majour point is... dislocating large portions of the production element from your economy/society... has a rather big reactionary effect.
the rich country also looses employment by this, but this is perhaps made up by the fact they still retain the considerable amount of profit (because they own the overseas factories), which is used to pay for services which in respect of the sweat shop labourer is extremely high... so this 'rich country' segment of the global economy, retains the profit from exploitation, concentrates the wealth produced from such exploitation in its citizens, and therefore creates in general a high quality of life... and all the burden which supports this, are exported, where they cannot reach back to seize redistribution and a socialist outcome... ?
The 3rd world is in other ways also being used as the first worlds' cusion to sustain capitalism... which produces and sustains developmental imbalances... i wonder on what time scale this will be resolved... i dont know how accurate my feelings are in this regard, but i get the sense that if capitalism isnt extinguished soon humanity doesnt have much hope of continued existance... health of the planet, conflict with the weapons of today... frustration of peoples supressed from imperialism needing a greater vent... some new paradigm in warfare will come about i suspect...
dispell my economic fears at least for me, plz!
There are distortions in how our economic condition has manifested itself that have created threats to the criteria neccessary for a viable socialist revolution.
I think America has dislocated a large prolaterian element from itself and externalized it, ie it has exported the bulk of its class enemy. It has exported it to Africa, and South America also perhaps... and South East Asia too... By exploiting foriegn labour, with foriegn invested capital. It imports the profits from these foriegn ventures, while keeping itself divorced from the threats this exploitation produces. Its a kind new slavery/neo-colonialism pheunonum.
I have not formaly studied economics... and it occurs to me, this foriegn exploitation does not neccessarily have a great effect in releaving rich, first world countries like America, of a prolaterian proportional to the size of its population that one might find in more mixed countries... Such as Brazil and South Africa... But i submitt (and this is with no data, just from my general impression of Europe and the majority of US) that because America has out-sourced most of its material requirements (i mean material as in physical goods, corporeal things), it is left with a quite a lot of rich people utalizing lots of personal services (which is a term i derrive from my high school Bussiness studies class, so please forgive any miss terminology... which is likley to occur also from my slight inebriation, my spelling on the other hand has never been any good, im sorry :( ). So this then accounts for the excess of lawyers etc. Which i think i might use as an example in how the same way consumption of material goods has become frivolous and excessive, services too have been extended to sustain an acceptable level of employment. So i guess my majour point is... dislocating large portions of the production element from your economy/society... has a rather big reactionary effect.
the rich country also looses employment by this, but this is perhaps made up by the fact they still retain the considerable amount of profit (because they own the overseas factories), which is used to pay for services which in respect of the sweat shop labourer is extremely high... so this 'rich country' segment of the global economy, retains the profit from exploitation, concentrates the wealth produced from such exploitation in its citizens, and therefore creates in general a high quality of life... and all the burden which supports this, are exported, where they cannot reach back to seize redistribution and a socialist outcome... ?
The 3rd world is in other ways also being used as the first worlds' cusion to sustain capitalism... which produces and sustains developmental imbalances... i wonder on what time scale this will be resolved... i dont know how accurate my feelings are in this regard, but i get the sense that if capitalism isnt extinguished soon humanity doesnt have much hope of continued existance... health of the planet, conflict with the weapons of today... frustration of peoples supressed from imperialism needing a greater vent... some new paradigm in warfare will come about i suspect...
dispell my economic fears at least for me, plz!