Reminiscence of the Maoist past...

[RedStarOverChina]

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Pretty girls with ideals...so very distant from my world! :(

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

I don't entirely understand the post, but the pictures are nice.

Is it that they were taken recently?

[RedStarOverChina]

They are paintings during the years of cultural revolution in China. (1960s-70s)

It was the "haydays" for the revolutionary youth. I mean, you literally go out there and make it YOUR WAY. Sky's the limit.

[Alice in Ganjaland]

Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2005, 01:52 AM
They are paintings during the years of cultural revolution in China. (1960s-70s)

It was the "haydays" for the revolutionary youth. I mean, you literally go out there and make it YOUR WAY. Sky's the limit.

Wow...paintings, you say? :o

Damm...they look as though they are photographs or something...the colours, details, light and shadow are superb. :) Who is the painter?

[enigma2517]

Yeah really nice I'll admit.

Those girls are pretty cute too. Always had a thing for Asians ;)

[RedStarOverChina]

LOL Ideals, come on! lets concentrate on those, shall we?
I mean look at them...whenever I look at them I fantacize being able to dream, to rebel, and then to achieve your dreams! :wub:

Maybe I'm overly romanticizing it but this is what making us radical, this is what seperate us apart from the lifeless walking piles of shit thats ruling over us, such as the guys in the senate. :angry:

Anyways this is how I really feel...it touches me, the reminiscence.

[Black Dagger]

Why do they all have pig-tails?

[RedStarOverChina]

There was this sentiment against the "Bourgeoisie ideals of Beauty".

Was it wrong? I dont know. But one thing's for sure women back then didn't have to capitalize on their looks to make a living.

[Alice in Ganjaland]

Hmmm...again, you wouldn't happen to know the name of the painter?

[RedStarOverChina]

no unfortunately not :(

[Alice in Ganjaland]

Awwww.... :(

[Enragé]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 04:06 AM
LOL Ideals, come on! lets concentrate on those, shall we?
I mean look at them...whenever I look at them I fantacize being able to dream, to rebel, and then to achieve your dreams! :wub:

Maybe I'm overly romanticizing it but this is what making us radical, this is what seperate us apart from the lifeless walking piles of shit thats ruling over us, such as the guys in the senate. :angry:

Anyways this is how I really feel...it touches me, the reminiscence.
why is this whats making us radical?

They are wearing army uniforms, got the same hairdo's...individuality is being fucked...and all cuz Mao wanted to purge some annoying fucks in the CP.

hmm they are cute though, and great paintings nonetheless ;)

[Xvall]

Strikingly realistic paintings. I think they look good, but that's just me. I like the ones with the guns.

[Alice in Ganjaland]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 04:22 PM
They are wearing army uniforms, got the same hairdo's...individuality is being fucked...and all cuz Mao wanted to purge some annoying fucks in the CP.

They look sad and stressed to me, like they don't want to be there.

[Ownthink]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 06:06 PM
Strikingly realistic paintings. I think they look good, but that's just me. I like the ones with the guns.
Indeed. Although, it would be much better if there was a dead body of a capitalist on the ground with some blood leaking out of his head and some money next to his dead body.


Just my opinion.

[JC1]

Yeah, Cultural revoloution !

Good painting's, but whyt do the girl's look cuacasian ?

[Black Dagger]

Good painting's, but whyt do the girl's look cuacasian ?

What gave you that impression?

[RedStarOverChina]

why is this whats making us radical?
Eh...that we are young and energetic? Maybe just not you :P

They are wearing army uniforms, got the same hairdo's...individuality is being fucked...
It's not like what you wear is the only form of expression--it's what you say, and more importantly what you do.

and all cuz Mao wanted to purge some annoying fucks in the CP.
You dont know thta...neither do I.

They look sad and stressed to me, like they don't want to be there.
Hmmm...they dont seem sad to me but rather calm. That gives you a great deal of emotion considering what they do everyday.

it would be much better if there was a dead body of a capitalist on the ground with some blood leaking out of his head and some money next to his dead body.
I assure you, there was no shortage of that! :lol:

Strikingly realistic paintings. I think they look good, but that's just me. I like the ones with the guns.
She still seems feminine tho...or do you have a thing for that? :D
Yeah I like that one too. But I also like the first one, where the girl is reading a book. It disproves what they tell you about the youth back then---naive, uneducated and stupid. I was always suspecious of that.





Hey---it seems to me that the first and second painting took place in the same spot!

[Enragé]

"Eh...that we are young and energetic? Maybe just not you "

yea ok
but i dont think they look young and energetic at all
they look young and indoctrinated to me.

[Alice in Ganjaland]

Originally posted by RedStarOverChina+Nov 2 2005, 09:29 AM--> (RedStarOverChina @ Nov 2 2005, 09:29 AM)
it would be much better if there was a dead body of a capitalist on the ground with some blood leaking out of his head and some money next to his dead body.

Hey---it seems to me that the first and second painting took place in the same spot! [/b]
RFLMAO! :D
Hey, that's a good idea for a painting though...I think I'll do something like that and upload it. :)


"RedStarOverChina"

Hey---it seems to me that the first and second painting took place in the same spot!

Yeah! I see it...I think it may be the same girl also. :)

[Hiero]

I don't believe they are from the Cultural Revolution. If they are from that period, they aren't painted by a Chinese national.

They don't match the art of the cultural revolution, first point being they had big cartoon like pictures. These are some of the first that look so realistic. They normally had a solgan, a picture of Mao or something similar. Also the poses don't match. Most pictures of the cultural revolution had people shouting, helping people or raised fists.

If they are indeed from the Cutlural Revolution then they are a rare style.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

But there were paintings made that weren't propaganda.

[RedStarOverChina]

quoting moi on RA forum:

The style looks Chinese. The Russian influence(which is common among most Chinese works produced from 1950-1980) is reduced to a minimum amount (even though still sensible).

I'm having doubts as to when it was painted. If it was indeed painted before the 80s, the presence of Russian artistic influence should be stronger.

It is definately Chinese. The question in when was it done.


And of course, even though propaganda was a mainstream art form, it's not all there is to it.

China like most former socialist countries support tons of artists, such as my father.

[Fidelbrand]

the one in the middle looks cool.

thanks Red. ;)

[Alice in Ganjaland]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 01:02 PM
China like most former socialist countries support tons of artists, such as my father.
Your father is an artist? Cool...what's his name?

[RedStarOverChina]

the one in the middle looks cool.

thanks Red.
Glad u liked it.
Anything for you, my liege. :P


Your father is an artist? Cool...what's his name?
ehh he's ancient history. Only Chinese artists of his age know about him.

[Alice in Ganjaland]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 05:57 PM

Your father is an artist? Cool...what's his name?
ehh he's ancient history. Only Chinese artists of his age know about him.
Ah I see. Was he involved by any chance in the Cultural Revolution?

[RedStarOverChina]

He was the grandson of a landlord...which was NOT a good thing to be associated with. So he didn't seem as "hip" as the others.

He painted many propaganda tho.

My mom was the daughter of a revolutionary (former vice mayor of the city I came from) but she was not into politics--especially after her father was thought of as the oppressor class.

[Alice in Ganjaland]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 06:59 PM
He was the grandson of a landlord...which was NOT a good thing to be associated with. So he didn't seem as "hip" as the others.

He painted many propaganda tho.

My mom was the daughter of a revolutionary (former vice mayor of the city I came from) but she was not into politics--especially after her father was thought of as the oppressor class.
Wow you have a revolutionary legacy :lol:

If it's possible, could you get a hand on some of your father's stuff and scan it in? I'd love to see his work. :)


Oh BTW what's your avatar about? Is the bear jacking off into Tom's face or something? :o :lol:

[RedStarOverChina]

none of them survived. his propaganda paintings are all on the wall. All of his paintings he did before the age of 40 were no longer ours---stolen, donated to the university or given to friends.

now he only paints nature and nudity--I dont have any of his work on my computer.


edit:

Oh BTW what's your avatar about? Is the bear jacking off into Tom's face or something?
LOL yeah thats what it was trying to suggest. thought it was funny.

[Alice in Ganjaland]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 07:46 PM
none of them survived. his propaganda paintings are all on the wall. All of his paintings he did before the age of 40 were no longer ours---stolen, donated to the university or given to friends.

now he only paints nature and nudity--I dont have any of his work on my computer.
Ah that sucks. :( I'm sorry to hear that.

[RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - MILITANT]

do u have any more pics like those like realistic Chinese propaganda posters? that would be great :D

[Red Heretic]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 08:22 PM
and all cuz Mao wanted to purge some annoying fucks in the CP.

They were not just "annoying fucks." They were revisionists who eventually restored capitalism in China, and exiled/imprisoned/executed all of the real communists within the Chinese Communist Party. These were the fucks in charge of the Tiananmen Square massacre.

The restoration of capitalism and the capitalist roaders were not to be taken lightly.

[Alice in Ganjaland]

I don't know much about Communist China back in the day, but I heard there was this controversy between some people involved in the Cultural Revolution and some other folks who used the colour "red" for use on the Stop sign, and that all this occured because the people involved in the Cultural Revolution thought that their colour was too great to put on a Stop sign...I don't know if I have everything correct above, but it was something to that effect. Can someone tell me more about this?