Aryan Nations

[SmokeyDaSharky]

I was wondering if the Aryan Nations are a threat to people like us. I heard they are planning a "2nd Revolution". Do they really have plans? I heard they would take over a military base and go forward from there.What do you think?

[sovietsniper]

Neo-nazi propaganda. Theres no way a so called "aryan"country will turn facist.

dousnt aryan just mean germanic?

[Ginger Goodwin]

Rest easy my friend.
These guys are no real threat whatsoever.
Morris Dees, director of the "Southern poverty Law Center" went after them on Behalf of an aboriginal family who was fired upon by guards near their Compound in Hayden Lake Idaho.
Dees specializes in punitive lawsuits against racists, he basically sues them for all they are worth and he managed to get them to forfeit their 15 acre compound/headquarters. The Aryan nations leader was named Richard Butler,he passed away last year and the group has since split into two warring factions.
The traditionalists who follow Butlers "Christian Identity" theology, and the new faction led by a weirdo named August Kreiss. This splinter group must be lonely...as no other nazi's want anything to do with them as they have allied themselves with Islamic fundamentalists.
This group was always very small and now they are worse off than ever. ;)

[SmokeyDaSharky]

GREAT!

[Graham_Pogo]

I believe they aren't. Just like none of the Neo-Nazis groups. Just take a look at NSM. They are failing , and will most likely soon be gone.

[Redmau5]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2005, 08:41 AM
Neo-nazi propaganda. Theres no way a so called "aryan"country will turn facist.

dousnt aryan just mean germanic?
Aryan is just the collective term for Indo-European languages, I believe.

Also, Iran literally means "Land of the Aryans".

[John_worldrevolution.info]

Where are these "aryan nations" exactly? Would someone care to explain?

[Little Miss Red]

The Aryans historically were the Germanic tribes that invaded India and settled there.

Aryan in the Hitler since, is a person with Nordic blood. So basically Germens and English. Blonde hair & blue eyes were considered the best Aryan features.

White superiority will never be achieved for three reasons: A) Most people in the world aren't Aryan. The Chinese and other non-"Aryan" nations would never allow a white fascist dictatorship.They could bomb us out and not care.
B) There are laws against discrimination.
C) Mass media today makes it impossible for a Goebbels to exist today.

Nazis...I joined this site to forget about their ridicoulus ideas.

[Black Dagger]

A)White superiority will never be achieved for three reasons: A) Most people in the world aren't Aryan. The Chinese and other non-"Aryan" nations would never allow a white fascist dictatorship.They could bomb us out and not care.

Apartheid has already existed in a lot of 'western' countries, South Africa obviously, but also the USA & Australia. Moreover, whilst racialised dictatorship and segregation are difficult to institute and maintain (in 2005), white superiorty in an economic sense is still a reality in many advanced capitalist countries. This is not a 'racial' superiority, but in the exploitation of capitalists of working peoples (of every 'colour'), but in many 'western' countries there is a strong correlation between skin colour and class. A part from this economic gradation there is also the social division, with racism rampant. When widespread racism is coupled with the fact that the majority of people who control capital, business, the Government- authority- are white - this system works to main the status quo, that is the maintenance of white dominance.



B) There are laws against discrimination.

Laws do not prevent discrmination - at all - in fact racial discrimination is one of the hardest offences to prove. Unless a person openly states that they're 'discriminating' against because you're a 'nigger' or a 'wetback', or a 'gook'- they could say you didnt' get 'the job', the apartment, the bank loan etc. for any number of non-racist reasons, and in most contexts, no reason has to be given anyway.



C) Mass media today makes it impossible for a Goebbels to exist today.

Except that the corporate media is frequently racist in their portrayls of peoples of colour, and when they're not being racist, its' pro-capitalism, anti-communism, heterosexism, whatever.

[EwokUtopia]

Aryan Nations?
Iran is an Aryan Nation.
Do skinheads like Iranians?

Under the white supremicist definition, I am an Aryan, Im tall, extremely blonde and I have blue eyes, however, I am not an Aryan, because I am not of Aryan stock (Iranian, Azeri, Pashtu, etc...). Its ironic that nazi's consider all whites to be Aryans (flase) and they consider actual Iranians and Pashtu's to be non-white inferiors (false on both accounts). I am a huge fan of Aryan cultures, but I know that I am not one of them. That use of the word has tainted it, i think, and now people associate Aryans with Hitler. Just like the swastika, it was (and still is, i dont let arbitrary things ruin symbols) a peaceful symbol of many different cultures (including Roma and Jewish). Hitlers Swastika wasnt even a swastika. He called it the Hakenkreutz, being hooked cross. There is actually a town in Northern Ontario called "Swastika", and I dont find that controvercial in the least. Nor do I find "Iran" which means "land of the Aryans" to be controvercial. The point to this rant is that just because bad people rape good names and symbols does not destroy the symbol. I think it is absurd for people to demand all swastika's be removed regardless of their connections, for instance the Raelian symbol, and even a Japanese Pokemon card had swastikas (not connected to hakenkreutzes) that were removed because people were offended. I can understand the offence, but remember, The Swastika is a symbol of love, the Hakenkreutz is of hate, Understand the difference. Aryans are good, Aryanism is bad.

[CrazyModerate]

Aryans came from central asia and migrated into europe. Slavs are the closest of all european cultures to being aryan, not the germans.

Hitler was a moron who based his concept of Aryans on one of his psychotic little fantasies. The Nazis were full of shit.

[EwokUtopia]

Ehhh not quite, Aryans came from basically modern day Chechnya and went south west to Iran, Afghanistan, and more controversially, Pakistan and India. Deffenately werent Germanic however, although Germans came from the same region as well, but totally divorced culture.