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apathy maybe
27th October 2005, 04:46
If you see a new colour, how do you describe it to people. Is it a mix of two different colours or what?

And how do you describe colour to a blind person or sound to a deaf one?

barret
27th October 2005, 05:41
When I describe a new color, I just try saying " its inbetween this color and this color". That usually works. Well descibing color to a blind person or sound to a deaf one, you have to explain that its merely a sense, and not a physical object. Sound is just air vibrating at different frequencies, you can produce sounds, but you can't hold it in your hand. Colors are just mixtures of light at different wave lengths.

Try to keep it simple and make it seem as if they're not missing out on much. :)

drain.you
27th October 2005, 12:37
How do we know we all see the colours the same?
Why do some people like one colour over another whilst another prefers another. If you see what I mean.
Me and a friend used to discuss this alot.

There is no way to tell that I see red the same as you see it.
Theres no way to tell if digestive biscuits taste the same to me as they do to you.
Theres no way to tell if music sounds the same to me as it does to you.

We are all different.
All have different preferences.
We all experience things differently.

barret
27th October 2005, 19:52
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2005, 08:21 AM
How do we know we all see the colours the same?
Why do some people like one colour over another whilst another prefers another. If you see what I mean.
Me and a friend used to discuss this alot.

There is no way to tell that I see red the same as you see it.
Theres no way to tell if digestive biscuits taste the same to me as they do to you.
Theres no way to tell if music sounds the same to me as it does to you.

We are all different.
All have different preferences.
We all experience things differently.
I had always wondered about this. Sound is slightly more stable than light. Music will sound similiar to all people who can hear all of the ranges, because sound is just the frequences at which air vibrates. Infact, wind is considered a sound in the low bass range. Thus, everyone feels wind the same, but not everyone reacts the same to it.

As for light, its is slightly different as it matters mostly to our eyes. I have Red/green color blindness and thus will percieve colors differently than most people.

Dark Exodus
31st October 2005, 11:46
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2005, 12:26 PM
How do we know we all see the colours the same?
Why do some people like one colour over another whilst another prefers another. If you see what I mean.
Me and a friend used to discuss this alot.

There is no way to tell that I see red the same as you see it.
Theres no way to tell if digestive biscuits taste the same to me as they do to you.
Theres no way to tell if music sounds the same to me as it does to you.

We are all different.
All have different preferences.
We all experience things differently.
Yeah I have thought about that too.
There is not really a way to know if the red you see is actually what I would define as a blue.

rioters bloc
31st October 2005, 11:52
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2005, 10:26 PM
How do we know we all see the colours the same?
Why do some people like one colour over another whilst another prefers another. If you see what I mean.
Me and a friend used to discuss this alot.

There is no way to tell that I see red the same as you see it.
Theres no way to tell if digestive biscuits taste the same to me as they do to you.
Theres no way to tell if music sounds the same to me as it does to you.

We are all different.
All have different preferences.
We all experience things differently.
i tried to discuss this with my bf, he said "no, we all see colours the same. that's just a philosophical question to entertain bored minds." im not sure if he was serious or he just didnt wanna get into that kinda discussion at that point :P he sounded confident though..

Xvall
31st October 2005, 21:10
We hypotesize that all colors we see are the same because people seem to react in the same manner to varying level of brightness, and understand the gradual changes in colors. (Such as that which might be seen on a color chart.) I suppose we can't be certain, but this is hardly important.

katie mccready
19th November 2005, 16:38
theres no way of knowing anything in this world, does 2+2=4 or not. the fact of the matter is that we just wander apatheticly from one day to the next unill we die, those of us that we see great to others seem small. we know nothing.

Magraheed
24th November 2005, 00:38
Totally agree, i talk about this to my family all the time to annoy them hahah

Have you ever tryed to imagine a new colour? Ive tryed all my life and still cant imagine a new colour in my imagination.

Bannockburn
24th November 2005, 00:47
And how do you describe colour to a blind person or sound to a deaf one?

Read David Hume's inquiry concerning human understanding

nevrborn
27th November 2005, 06:41
Where can I find that?

warnerraider
27th November 2005, 07:13
No but honestly, how would you describe color to someone who has been blind all of their life? They say that something warm is used for red, cold for blue, but this doesnt make sense to me, as you'd have to have a preconception of red and blue for this to work. You could explain all of the science behind it, but (s)he would have no idea until (s)he was able to see. Imagine only seeing and knowing solids for all of your life, no liquids or gas whatsoever. And then someone says that there is this substance that has a definite volume but no shape, and then showing it to you. Go further, and imagine someone explaining capillarity, surface tension, and the shape of ice causing it to float, and then imagine what you'd think of before being shown water.

fpeppett
27th November 2005, 11:01
I beleive that my red is not your red and my blue is not your blue; i beleive we all percept these things differently. But then again it could all be exactly the same. I would love to get into them mind of a blind person, what do they really see? I mean we just live on the assumption they see darkness, but what if they do actually see something like different colurs, but because it doesn't actually realte to the world we are in, it is known as blindness.

nevrborn
30th November 2005, 07:21
Please, does anyone know a site/forum that deals with these sort of questions? I love them! please share with me more of tehse 'deep thinkers'.

RevolverNo9
2nd December 2005, 17:55
heres no way of knowing anything in this world, does 2+2=4 or not.

Yes, 2 + 2 = 4. That is the fact of objective reality. If you have two books and two other books, you have no way of putting them together that does not make four books.

Mathematics is truth. There is no possible way of forming an 'alternative' system. It is not a subjective construct; sure, we may use a series of symbolic conventions to express this system, but that in no way alters the objectivity of what we are investigating. If you formulate a subjective code whereby 10 x 10 = 101, that is simply untrue, a subjective construct which has no reality outside the imagination.

Nathe
10th December 2005, 07:48
the way i see it, we have 5 senses and not 4 or 6 (as far as we know) because the sensations are completley different and incomparable.
if someone is blind (from birth, i assume, correct me if im wrong) then there is no way to describe this sensation to them, as knowlege about the sensation of a sense only comes from experiencing that sense.

even if the blind person "saw" colours, only they could see them, and so theres no objective colour that you could relate to, so as to create language fit for describing it.

so you cant. unless ur psychic <_<

Bannockburn
10th December 2005, 15:24
Please, does anyone know a site/forum that deals with these sort of questions? I love them&#33; please share with me more of tehse &#39;deep thinkers&#39;.

Dude, read David Hume&#39;s inquiry concerning human understanding. He deals with this directly. Go to Wikipedia, type in David Hume, and you can download the book directly. That will answer you, and he is completely right.

unite2fight1984
16th December 2005, 05:19
There are seven senses

Tocuh (Tactile)
Sight (Vision)
Sound (Audition)
Taste (Gustation)
Smell (Olfaction)
Balance (Vestibular)
Body (Kinesthetic) - Sense of where your body parts are

Balance is measured by the semi-circular canals in one&#39;s ears. They are filled with a liquid that moves lumps called cupulas. Depending how the cupula moved, it stimulates hairs which send nerve impulses to your mind interprets these messages.

"The kinesthetic sense is based on receptor neurons in the muscles and joints that basically work on the mechanical distortion principle. Some of these receptors are hair cells; others are spindles that begin to fire when stretched. "

Seven Senses (http://www.ship.edu/~cgboeree/senses.html)