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truthaddict11
18th January 2003, 03:53
check out some of these quotes I found online

"When I said during my presidential bid that I would only bring Christians and Jews into the government, I hit a firestorm. `What do you mean?' the media challenged me. `You're not going to bring atheists into the government? How dare you maintain that those who believe in the Judeo Christian values are better qualified to govern America than Hindus and Muslims?' My simple answer is, `Yes, they are.'" --from Pat Robertson's "The New World Order," page 218.

(talking about apartheid South Africa) "I think 'one man, one vote,' just unrestricted democracy, would not be wise. There needs to be some kind of protection for the minority which the white people represent now, a minority, and they need and have a right to demand a protection of their rights."--Pat Robertson, "The 700 Club," 3/18/92

(on womens rights)"I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period."--Pat Robertson, "The 700 Club," 1/8/92

"[Islam] is not a peaceful religion that wants to coexist. They want to coexist until they can control, dominate and then if need be destroy."
"[L]adies and gentlemen, I have taken issue with our esteemed president in regard to his stand in saying Islam is a peaceful religion. It's just not. And the Koran makes it very clear, if you see an infidel, you are to kill him."
"The fact is that our immigration policies are now so skewed to the Middle East and away from Europe that we have introduced these people into our midst and undoubtedly there are terrorist cells all over them."
--The 700 Club, February 21, 2002

"A Supreme Court ruling is not law." ..." A Supreme Court ruling is not the Law of the United States. The law of the United Sates is the Constitution, treaties made in accordance with the Constitution, and laws duly enacted by the Congress and signed by the president. And any of those things I would uphold totally with all of my strength, whether I agreed with them or not." .... "I am bound by the laws of the United States and all 50 states.... [but] I am not bound by any case or any court to which I myself am not a party....I don't think the Congress of the United States is subservient to the courts....They can ignore a Supreme Court ruling if they so choose."
--June 1986, when speaking before a group of writers from the Washington Post.

(on gays)"...What kind of craziness is it in our society which will put a cloak of secrecy around a group of people whose lifestyle is at best abominable. Homosexuality is an abomination. The practices of those people is appalling. It is a pathology. It is a sickness, and instead of thinking of giving these people a preferred status and privacy, we should treat AIDS exactly the same way as any other communicable disease..."
--The 700 Club, June 6, 1988

(on palestine)"The wars of extermination have given a lot of people trouble unless they know what was going on. The people in the land of Palestine were very wicked. They were given over to idolatry; they sacrificed their children; they had all kinds of abominable sex practices; they were having sex, apparently, with animals; they were having sex men with men, and women with women; they were committing adultery, fornication; they were worshipping idols, offering their children up; and they were forsaking God.
"God told the Israelites to kill them all -- men, women and children, to destroy them. And that seems to be a terrible thing to do. Is it? Or isn't it?"
"Well, let us assume there were 2,000 of them, or 10,000 of them living in the land, or whatever number there was of them. I don't have the exact number. Pick a number. God said, 'Kill them all.'
"Well, that would seem hard, wouldn't it? That would be 10,000 people who would probably go to Hell. But, if they stayed and reproduced, in 30 or 40 or 50 or 60 or 100 more years, they could conceivably be -- 10,000 would go to a 100,000 -- 100,000 could conceivably go to a million. And then, there would be a million people who would have to spend eternity in Hell! And it's far more merciful to take away a few than to see in the future a 100 years down the road, and say, 'Well, I have to take away a million people that would forever be apart from God, ' because the abomination was there like a contagion. God saw that there was no cure for it. It wasn't going to change; their hearts weren't going to change; and all they would do is cause trouble for the Israelites, and pull the Israelites away from God, and prevent the truth of God from reaching the Earth."
"So, God, in love, took away a small number that he might not have to take away a large number."
--The 700 Club, May 6, 1985

(racist remark)"There were no politics to polarize us then, to magnify every slight. The 'negroes' of Washington had their public schools, restaurants, bars, movie houses, playgrounds and churches; and we had ours."
--Pat Buchanan, "Right from the Beginning," (his 1988 autobiography), p. 131 - Commenting on race relations in the 1940s and 1950s

here is his friend Jerry Falwell

"I think the Moslem faith teaches hate. I think there's clear evidence that the Islam [sic] religion, wherever it has majority control--and I can name a dozen countries--doesn't even allow people of other faiths to express themselves or evangelize or to exist in their presence....I think that when persons are clearly bigoted towards other persons in the human family, they should be disqualified from funds. For that reason, Islam should be out the door before they knock." --Rev. Jerry Falwell

"Modern U.S. Supreme Courts have raped the Constitution and raped the Christian faith and raped the churches by misinterpreting what the founders had in mind in the First Amendment of the Constitution... [W]e must fight against those radical minorities who are trying to remove God from our textbooks, Christ from our nation. We must never allow our children to forget that this is a Christian nation. We must take back what is rightfully ours."
--Jerry Falwell, March 1993 sermon

(anti-semite remark)"The Jews are returning to their land of unbelief. They are spiritually blind and desperately in need of their Messiah and Savior."
--Jerry Falwell, Listen, America!

"If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being."
--Jerry Falwell

"The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country."
--Jerry Falwell, Sermon, July 4, 1976

"The Bible is the inerrant ... word of the living God. It is absolutely infallible, without error in all matters pertaining to faith and practice, as well as in areas such as geography, science, history, etc."
--Jerry Falwell, Finding Inner Peace and Strength

Those who practice homosexuality should swiftly be put to death by the government. God emphatically condemns the practice of exchanging proper gender characteristics among men and women. God justly calls for the death-penalty for anyone who practices homosexuality."
--Citizens for the Ten Commandments

"AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals."
--Jerry Falwell

I listen to feminists and all these radical gals - most of them are failures. They've blown it. Some of them have been married, but they married some Casper Milquetoast who asked permission to go to the bathroom. These women just need a man in the house. That's all they need. Most of the feminists need a man to tell them what time of day it is and to lead them home. And they blew it and they're mad at all men. Feminists hate men. They're sexist. They hate men - that's their problem."
--Jerry Falwell

more micellaneous ones
"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good...Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a Biblical duty, we are called by God, to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism."--Randall Terry, Founder of Operation Rescue, The News-Sentinel, Fort Wayne, Indiana, 8-16-93

"We know who the homicidal maniacs are. They are the ones cheering and dancing right now. We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."
--Ann Coulter, writing about the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks

Nobody has the right to worship on this planet any other God than Jehovah. And therefore the state does not have the responsibility to defend anybody's pseudo-right to worship an idol."
--Rev. Joseph Morecraft, Chalcedon Presbyterian Church, "Biblical Role of Civil Government" speech given 8/31/93 at Biblical Worldview and Christian Education Conference

"With all due respect to those dear people, my friend, God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew."
--Bailey Smith, a founding father of Robertson's Christian Coalition, once told 15,000 people at a Religious Roundtable briefing in Dallas, June 26, 1994

"When the Christian majority takes over this country, there will be no satanic churches, no more free distribution of pornography, no more talk of rights for homosexuals. After the Christian majority takes control, pluralism will be seen as immoral and evil and the state will not permit anybody the right to practice evil."
--Gary Potter, president of Catholics for Christian Political Action

"Most politically active Christians don't want equal time with homosexuals, abortionists, animal worshipping pagans, witches, radical feminists and pornographers. We want them silenced and mercifully disciplined according to the word of God."
--Jay Rogers reviewing Ralph Reed's Politically Incorrect in "Chalcedon Report," 2/95

"Our culture is superior. Our culture is superior because our religion is Christianity and that is the truth that makes men free."
--Pat Buchanan, speech to the Christian Coalition, Sept. 1993, as reported in ADL Report, 1994

"But integration and equality are myths; they disguise a new segregation and a new equality...Every social order institutes its own program of separation or segregation. A particular faith and morality is given privileged status and all else is separated for progressive elimination."
--R.J. Rushdoony, The Institutes of Biblical Law (Nutley, NJ: Craig Press, 1973), p. 296

"God Hates Fags!"
--Rev. Fred Phelps

"The real liberators of American women were not the feminist noise-makers, they were the automobile, the supermarket, the shopping center, the dishwasher, the washer-dryer, the freezer."
--Pat Buchanan, "Right from the Beginning," p. 149

"Women have babies and men provide the support. If you don't like the way we're made you've got to take it up with God."
--Phyllis Schlafly

"The god of Judaism is the devil. The Jew will not be recognized by God as one of His chosen people until he abandons his demonic religion and returns to the faith of his fathers--the faith which embraces Jesus Christ and His Gospel. "
--David Chilton, The Days of Vengeance: An Exposition of the Book of Revelation (Ft. Worth, TX: Dominion Press, 1984), p. 127

"We don't necessarily discriminate. We simply exclude certain types of people."
-Colonel Gerald Wellman, ROTC instructor

"When I, or people like me, are running the country, you'd better flee, because we will find you, we will try you, and we'll execute you. I mean every word of it. I will make it part of my mission to see to it that they are tried and executed."
--Randall Terry, founder of Operation Rescue, speaking of doctors who perform abortions, in an address to the U.S. Taxpayers Alliance, 8/08/95

"Don't let anything like trees in the Clearwater National Forest get in the way of providing jobs and fueling the economy, even if that means cutting down every last tree in the state."
--Congresswoman Helen Chenoweth R-ID during her 1994 campaign

"We don't have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand."
--James Watt (Secretary of the Interior under Reagan)

Beccie
18th January 2003, 04:14
After reading that I am ashamed to call myself a Christian, I do not hold one belief in common with these fundamentalists. I am no longer going to call myself a Christian rather a believer in the social dimension of the Gospel & a follower of Liberation theology.

antieverything
18th January 2003, 04:18
"The Bible is the inerrant ... word of the living God. It is absolutely infallible, without error in all matters pertaining to faith and practice, as well as in areas such as geography, science, history, etc."
--Jerry Falwell, Finding Inner Peace and Strength
I knew it! Pi was exactly 3 all along and the schools have been lying to me!

It is truly sad that such an ignorant group of people have such power in our country's politics. If Jesus was alive today he would smack them up with knotted cords and shit.

antieverything
18th January 2003, 04:20
I stopped calling myself a Christian a while back...I refer to myself as a Yeshuite in the same manner that one would refer to themselves as a Marxist.

truthaddict11
18th January 2003, 12:19
i think that Randall Terry guy is the biggest psycho ever

"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good...Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a Biblical duty, we are called by God, to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism."--Randall Terry, Founder of Operation Rescue, The News-Sentinel, Fort Wayne, Indiana, 8-16-93
this goes hand in hand with my Chirstian Fascism thread

here is a link to dictators ol pat helped
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/7027/...7/dictator.html (http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/7027/dictator.html)

redstar2000
18th January 2003, 14:50
Religion is not very pretty when it drops the mask, is it?

I've often been accused of "intolerance"--nevertheless, should I ever get the opportunity, I'm going after those bastards with the same fury that they have for me...and I certainly hope that a revolutionary government would do likewise.

Clerical fascists like Robertson, Falwell, et.al. deserve a speedy trial and a revolutionary firing squad. Let their "God" pardon them; I won't!

:angry:

Red Raton79
19th January 2003, 02:31
That post by quotes by the Religious Right was very disturbing especially by those facist fanatics like Jerry Falwell & Pat Robertson. People like that should be shot and hanged for promoting hatred and giving Christianity a bad name. Because of people like those there are Religious Wars all over the World espcially In Palestine-Israel, (Muslims vs Jewish) Northern Ireland, (Catholics vs Protestants) & until recently Afghanistan (Under the Taliban) Its scary that people like that exists in America and the current regime of George W. Bush supports these sickos. People like those and those who support them are a menace and are the real terrorists of society, Falwell, Robertson, Terry, Bush and any other nut that supports them are THE REAL AXIS OF EVIL!!!!

synthesis
19th January 2003, 10:12
What an idiot.

I share some measure of agreement, though, with the South Africa sentiment.

Over the past few years, two thousand whites have been killed there - lynched, if you will - who may or may not have agreed with apartheid, and in fact may have been among its opponents.

Why not ask for them to be protected, much as we ask for our minorities to be protected?

People like that should be shot and hanged for promoting hatred...

Does anyone else find this a fucking ridiculous statement?

truthaddict11
19th January 2003, 11:41
Quote: from Red Raton79 on 9:31 pm on Jan. 18, 2003
That post by quotes by the Religious Right was very disturbing especially by those facist fanatics like Jerry Falwell & Pat Robertson. People like that should be shot and hanged for promoting hatred and giving Christianity a bad name. Because of people like those there are Religious Wars all over the World espcially In Palestine-Israel, (Muslims vs Jewish) Northern Ireland, (Catholics vs Protestants) & until recently Afghanistan (Under the Taliban) Its scary that people like that exists in America and the current regime of George W. Bush supports these sickos. People like those and those who support them are a menace and are the real terrorists of society, Falwell, Robertson, Terry, Bush and any other nut that supports them are THE REAL AXIS OF EVIL!!!!

you forgot Phelps and his "God Hates Fags" group. and of course everyone at the Facsist News Corporation FOX and Pat Bucannan and Newt Gingrinch

RedFW
19th January 2003, 12:20
and of course everyone at the Facsist News Corporation FOX

Too right!

They have now appropriated feminism with what they call Ifeminism- Individualist Feminism. Their columnist Wendy McElroy's research has been funded by members of America's religious right and libertarian groups.

Spiritual Minded
19th January 2003, 12:23
I wouldn't blame the whole religion of Christianity, but this guy terrifies me.

KickMcCann
20th January 2003, 01:05
Quote: from Commie01 on 4:14 am on Jan. 18, 2003
After reading that I am ashamed to call myself a Christian


You shouldn't be ashamed of being a Christian, rather, you should be mortified that those fascist bastards call themselves christians. They are shallow-minded tribalists, and excessivly hypocritical of their own ideas (muslims killing non-muslims is bad, christians killing non-christians is good) and they go against all of Jesus' teachings of non-violence and tolerance.
Osama Bin Laden should not be considered a muslim, Ariel Sharon should not be considered a jew, and the 700 club leaders should not be considered as christians.

redstar2000
20th January 2003, 02:55
But, KM, who gets to decide who is the "real" christian?

You can say that Robertson is not a "real" christian, just like I can say that Pol Pot was not a "real" communist.

But, in their own minds, they were real.

At best, it seems to me to end up in a theological argument that you can't win. For every quote you can find to justify your version in whatever "holy book" you consult, they can easily match if not exceed your total. "Holy books" contain megabytes of hatred...for unbelievers, for people who worship other gods, and even for the insufficiently righteous of the true believers.

I can easily challenge someone who maintains that Pol Pot was a "communist" to produce evidence from Marx and Engels that would endorse Pol Pot's murderous policies. I know there's nothing there.

Your dilemma is much more serious. :cool:

Fires of History
20th January 2003, 14:36
Well said Redstar.

Fundamentalists are simply those who take what they read too far. That's right, what they read. The hate and violence is there. Non-fundamentalists play this game where they pretend all that hate and violence is not there, by lying to themselves that modern religions are anything other than hate and violence.

Fundamentalists don't. They've read it all, too closely. And that's why the hate is there, it's in everything they've read.

Spiritual Minded
20th January 2003, 18:00
I think you guys are wrong. I'm not a Christian myself... but i'm sure you interpret Robertson's statements from your a Marxistic viewpoint which is very anti-religious. I mean, because Hitler said himself to be a democratic leader, does it mean that he was one? come on now...

(Edited by Spiritual Minded at 6:01 pm on Jan. 20, 2003)

Beccie
20th January 2003, 23:08
Thankyou for your kind words KickMcCann.

I have not been on this site very long but the general leftist view on religion makes me question my beliefs.

Fires of history and Redstar, could you guys please point out to me the hate filled passages in the New Testament. I have failed to find many. The passages that are the most hate filled are directed at the religious elite. The evangelists depict Jesus as a pacifist.

Reading peoples views on religion has made me realise something. Those people who are anti-religious seem to hate anyone who is religious (correct me if I am wrong). How is your hate any more justified then the hate of a fundamentalist?

redstar2000
21st January 2003, 02:01
Commie01, let me start by saying that I don't hate you even though you say you're religious. If I decided to "hate" you, it wouldn't be because of what you believe but because of something you had done or proposed to do.

The "New Testament" is actually much more hateful than the "Old Testament"...for Yeshuah's "God of Love" has created HELL for the eternal torture of those who refuse to submit to "His" divine will.

The Old Testament "Yahveh" just killed people; the New Testament "God the Father" practices eternal torture on His enemies. That seems hateful enough to me!

The inference is that anything you do to "God's enemies" on Earth, no matter how horrible, is nothing compared to the fate that God Himself has in store for the poor bastards. So, it's OK!

That was the justification of the tortures and murders of the Inquisition...to save souls from "Hell", anything was acceptable.

There are other examples but hell is the big one. Of course, I realize that Yeshuah himself may never have even mentioned the idea...it was floating around in Jewish thought in those times but as a distinctly minority position.

But those who believe in "Jesus" and "Allah" are stuck with it now...and I don't envy them one bit!

:cool:

Beccie
21st January 2003, 02:20
I think you misinterpreted what I meant, redstar.

I was not asking if you hated me personally. I was saying that an anti-religious person should not hate fundamentalists for their hatred that would be hypocritical. I am in no way a fundamentalist.

If the New Testament is filled with hate then I have not read it closely enough. I am a strict pacifist so if one must believe in the violence preached in the bible then I will no longer call myself a catholic. I would appreciate it if you could point out some of the "hate filled" passages to me.

RedFW
21st January 2003, 09:04
but i'm sure you interpret Robertson's statements from your a Marxistic viewpoint which is very anti-religious.

No, I interpret Pat Robertson from an anti-racist/sexist/misogynist/homophobic viewpoint. If my viewpoint is the antithesis of religion, then yes, I am anti-religious.

(Edited by RedFW at 9:05 am on Jan. 21, 2003)