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Scottish_Militant
23rd October 2005, 03:03
An excellent article written by a comrade in London, lots of good info and tips on your safety and the safety of others when things get ugly at demo's, rallies etc

A socialist perspective on the role of the revolutionary medic (http://www.marxismonline.com/modules.php?name=Universal&op=ViewItems&vid=22)

Simon
23rd October 2005, 10:17
Nice article!

Patchy
24th October 2005, 23:06
Very nice. I was just thinking about taking a paremedic/firefighting course.

Now it's pretty much final.

which doctor
24th October 2005, 23:52
I've always considered myself a healer of sorts. The sight of blood doesn't scare me and I enjoy treating wounds and seeing how they heal. I enjoyed the article.

Put me down as a revolutionary medic, but of course I'm also a good marksman.

Urban Guerrilla
25th October 2005, 01:14
I wonder how in revolutions when Guerrillas are wounded do they get help with sterile supplies like needles, gloves, ect. :che:

which doctor
25th October 2005, 01:32
I wip out my first aid kit(I really do have one) and get out my rubber gloves and I treat you as effectively as I can. In the field we won't have access to the resources that modern soldiers have and their mobile miltary operating rooms and such. We must learn to make with what we have.

Chimera
25th October 2005, 18:29
Bear in mind there's nothing in there about how to treat casualties in a general sense, if anyone is interested in training as a revolutionary medic you'll need to do a minimum of 4 days FAAW plus a conversion course.

As for medicine on guerrilla jobs fact is sterility comes second to keeping someone from bleeding to death. An infection you can cure but exsanguination is final.

Instruments can be sterilised by boiling. A surgeon can make do without an operating theatre if necessary - you hear occasionally about tracheotomies being done on planes with steak knives and vodka.

Gloves are a barrier precaution, they're not meant to be sterile for most procedures, they just stop transmission body to body. If you know the person you're treating has no infectious diseases and you know that you yourself don't have any then the procedure can be done without gloves and the likelihood is no harm will come of it. Just wash your hands at first opportunity.

Patchy
26th October 2005, 05:41
I'd imagine if someone was critically wounded at a demonstration, and actually dropped dead, you wouldn't be able to get near them. They would have most likely died at the front, and the cops would be all over him. Probably not a good idea to go near, they'd most likely just smash the nightstick over your head, irregardless of the satchel with the red cross on it.

Rockfan
26th October 2005, 05:59
Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 05:25 AM
I'd imagine if someone was critically wounded at a demonstration, and actually dropped dead, you wouldn't be able to get near them. They would have most likely died at the front, and the cops would be all over him. Probably not a good idea to go near, they'd most likely just smash the nightstick over your head, irregardless of the satchel with the red cross on it.
Or they would get trampled like in a mosh pit, ouch. Hey patchy, what system song is that quote from?

Patchy
26th October 2005, 06:07
Temper. :)

Rockfan
27th October 2005, 06:30
k i dnt got that 1 dam

DisIllusion
28th October 2005, 00:21
You never hear of people dying in protests on the news. Are there really medics out there at demonstrations?

Patchy
28th October 2005, 01:54
Never been to one, but if I do go to one, there would be a medic there.

Chimera
28th October 2005, 11:57
Most demonstrations with a less-than-sunny risk assessment have a medic on staff.