Israel's Next War

[Free Palestine]

Comrades,

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Originally posted by PBS
They do not believe in peace talks. They do not want to share the land. They are well armed and are carrying out increasingly violent attacks, even targeting innocent civilians. They are members of Israel's militant far right, and they are threatening to become Israel's next big problem.

In "Israel's Next War?", FRONTLINE goes deep inside the world of militant Jewish radicals who pose a grave new threat to Israeli security and, potentially, to the region. "The dream of these extremists"—to blow up the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, one of the most important holy sites in the Muslim world—"should give us sleepless nights," says former Israeli Security Chief Avi Dichter. "Jewish terror is liable to create a serious strategic threat that will turn the Israeli-Palestinian conflict into a conflict between thirteen million Jews and a billion Muslims all over the world."

In "Israel's Next War?" FRONTLINE profiles two young men—Shlomo Dvir and Yarden Morag—who planned to set off a bomb at a Palestinian girls school just as hundreds of young students arrived in the morning. The timing was carefully designed to harm as many children as possible. "It was my idea," says Shlomo Dvir in an exclusive interview from an Israeli prison. "Whoever gets hurt, gets hurt." Most Israelis reacted with shock and horror when Dvir and Morag's plan was revealed—but a small minority refused to condemn them (and were, in fact, proud of the failed plan -- P.A.).

Dvir and Morag's bomb never went off—an Israeli policeman lucked onto their plot at the last minute—and the investigation led Israeli security officials to an underground of other radical settlers who helped with this attack and others. These settlers are part of a much larger group of far rightists in Israel—the Kahanists, who are members of the outlawed party of the late Rabbi Meir Kahane, who rose to prominence in the 1980s with his message that nothing short of the expulsion of all Arabs from Jewish land will guarantee Israeli security.

"There are certain conditions, according to Jewish law, under which non-Jews may live here," says Shmuel ben Yishai, an Israeli settler in Hebron. "This doesn't apply to the Arabs, they don't fit the category. They have to get the hell out!"

"At a time when most in Israel are hoping for a fresh opportunity for peace with the Palestinians, a rift is developing between the extremists and the rest of the Israeli people," says producer Dan Setton. "And that rift will only grow if the extremists find a wider audience for their message." Right now, while some among the settlers might be sympathetic, relatively few are willing to act. Still, the security services are worried.

"The phenomena that we're talking about are not on the fringe," says Yitzhak Dar, head of the Jewish section of the Israeli security service. "The glue that holds them together is ideology. It's a very, very dangerous ideology....When they try to put it into action, through the murder of the prime minister, through the murder of the Arabs, through the massacre at the Hebron Mosque, it's the beginning of the end of a system that can defend itself."

Among the extremists, there is a feeling of persecution by the Israeli government.

"I think the government is mainly afraid of us because we represent an alternative," says Noam Federman, a prominent Kahanist who trained some of the school bomb plotters on how to withstand interrogation from Israeli police. "We basically explain the Arab problem as Rabbi Kahane saw it. We say this should be a Jewish country and I think that's what threatens them."

Mike Guzofsky, a transplanted New Yorker and leading Kahanist, is convinced that the very people who are now painted as extremists will one day be viewed as heroes. "I think the day will come when the secret service and the government will look for Jews who are willing to risk their lives and go into Arab villages and kick them out, kill them... and we have thousands of civilians with the military know-how to instigate a mega-attack against Arabs."

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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/israel/

[Free Palestine]

A worthwhile documentary and very courageous of PBS to do it. A few things, though..

One part lacking is the connection that exists between the looney fanatics and the supposedly "rational" thinkers who are at the helm in Israel and the US. The settlers can only hold on to their turf with the connivance of the Israeli state, and the latter can only operate with the support of the US taxpayer's money (approx. $3 billion annually).

The documentary also leaves the very strong impression that these are just a few radical right Israel groups which are held firmly in check by an ever vigilant Israeli government. This is not accurate. According to Dan Setton, the creator of this documentary, the "latest polls show that 30 percent of the people in Israel support the idea that the land belongs exclusively to the people of Israel, to the Jews, and that the state should be exclusively Jewish." Also, from a Haaretz (Israeli daily newspaper) poll which appeared in the paper recently: More Israeli Jews favor transfer of Palestinians & Israeli Arabs (http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=140196):


Some 46 percent of Israel's Jewish citizens favor transferring Palestinians out of the territories, while 31 percent favor transferring Israeli Arabs out of the country, according to the Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies' annual national security public opinion poll.

I would recommend that everyone read "A Chronology" (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/israel/cron/) on PBS's web site which outlines quite clearly the chronology of the Israeli settler movement.

[Militant]

And in other news a Palestinian DID blow up a bus full of children.

I use to support the Palestinian movement, but I had an intellectual breakthrough one afternoon.

If the Palestinians laid down arms today, there'd be peace tomorrow.

If the Israelis laid down their arms today, there'd be no Israel tomorrow.

It's called a moral gulf.

[JC1]

If the Palestinians laid down arms today, there'd be peace tomorrow.


No, the territory's would still be occupied.


If the Israelis laid down their arms today, there'd be no Israel tomorrow.


No. If the IDF pulled outta the territory's, they would still be able to protect Israel from forign invader's. Especialy considering that Israeli firepower is unequaled in the middle east, sept maybe by Suadi Arabia.

But that's a red-harring, simply becuase it's not an isssue of land hungry Jew's and Arab's who won't give peace a chance, it's an issue of comprador regime's duking it out in service of there sponser imperialist's. I mean, where do you think the PLO or the IDF get's cash ? Ever wonder why France reserved the best millitary hospital in France for Yassir, or why Israel is the biggest receiver of US aid ? Cuz' the Arab-Israeli war is nothing more then a tragedy created by Inter-Imperialist intrigue.

[Intifada]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2005, 12:48 AM
And in other news a Palestinian DID blow up a bus full of children.
Do you not think that the act of killing yourself as well as others is an act that reeks of desperation and hopelessness, by a human being who has nothing more to live for in this life?

Israeli occupation has turned the lives of the Palestinian population into utter misery, and out of that misery comes the rare acts of terror that are committed in the name of freedom.

Even the Zionists know this:

I would have joined a terrorist organization

-- Ehud Barak's response to Gideon Levy, a columnist for the Ha'aretz newspaper, when Barak was asked what he would have done if he had been born a Palestinian.

End the occupation, and suicide bombings (a rare and relatively new tactic) will also cease.


If the Palestinians laid down arms today, there'd be peace tomorrow.


The Palestinians went decades without resorting to acts of terror, such as suicide bombings against Israelis. In fact, the vast majority of Palestinians continue to pursue peaceful paths towards an end to the illegal occupation.

The problem with that, however, is that the Israelis do not hesitate to shoot at those peaceful activists (even if they are of Western origin) or to simply punish the Palestinians even more.


If the Israelis laid down their arms today, there'd be no Israel tomorrow.

That is a laugh!

The most powerful nation in the region being destroyed by a few suicide bombing terrorists!?

Get a brain.


It's called a moral gulf.

Where is the morality in the subjugation and oppression of a whole population?

[Tekun]

I saw this documentary being previewed on PBS a couple of months ago
I missed though, due to school :angry:

The palestinian cause is justified
Its preposterous to think that one day its your land, the next its taken and given to someone else
Palestinians just recently resorted to these suicidal tactics because its true, they're lives are in shambles due Israel and US aggression in Palestine
If your children were shot at, just because they threw rocks....shit, I'd be pissed too

Zionism + US funding = extermination of Arabs
THe War on Terror is not against these Zionists, its against Koran reading Arabs

Its true that two imperialist forces are behind everything, but the suffering of Palestine is real

[Free Palestine]

If the Palestinians laid down arms today, there'd be peace tomorrow.

I never thought of it that way.. I see the light now! I mean, the Palestinian suicide bomber, for no reason whatsoever, is responsible for creating all the violence and Israel's brutal retaliation. It's like the Palestinians are living in complete freedom without an ounce of oppression, and for no reason at all the suicide bombers began to strike! :rolleyes:

Let's see, 38 years of brutal occupation, an illegal apartheid wall, hundreds of thousands of illegal settlers on stolen lands, IDF shooting Palesintians at random, 800,000+ disposessed Palestinian refugees, Shin Bet posing as terrorists to justify further military actions by Israel, and the Palestinians are the enemies of peace and happiness?


If the Israelis laid down their arms today, there'd be no Israel tomorrow.

No peace will ever succeed if Israel continues to deny the Palestinians the liberty to which all people are entitled. A just solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict will only be achieved if Israeli policy is based upon moral principles and a strict adherence to international law, which run counter to the continued Israeli occupation of Arab territory and the denial of basic rights and freedoms to Palestinians under Israeli military rule.

The confiscation of Arab land in order to build more Jewish settlements, the expulsion of Palestinians, their arrest and imprisonment, the systematic torture in the prisons, the assassination of political leaders, the total absence of due process, the demolition of homes, the uprooting of thousands of olive trees, the diversion to Israel of scarce water resources and the often indiscriminant killing of men, women, and especially children are violations of international law and moral standards.


I use to support the Palestinian movement..

No you didn't. If you did, you wouldn't resort to such faulty logic and reasoning to justify your idiotic Zionist blatherings.


but I had a pseudo-intellectual breakthrough one afternoon.

Corrected.


And in other news a Palestinian DID blow up a bus full of children.

As far as that attack, nope, no children were killed. Where'd you pick that up? Was that another lie spoon-fed to you by your Zionist sources? And who is murdering children? Do you really want to go there? If you really insist on talking about who is murdering children..

Children killed:

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/children.gif

118 Israeli children (http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/children.html#source) have been killed by Palestinians and 680 Palestinian (http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/children.html#source) children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000.
For every 1 Israeli child that has died, 5.76 Palestinian children died.
1:5.76


Children Killed Reported, by NBC/ABC/CBS:

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In 2004, ABC, CBS, and NBC news reporting on Palestinian children’s deaths followed virtually the same line as Israeli children’s deaths, in stark contradiction to the reality, in which Palestinian children were being killed at a rate 22 times greater than Israeli children.


Children Killed Reported, by NY Times:

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/nyt-fig10.gif

The New York Times reported the death rates of Israeli and Palestinian children almost identically despite the fact that almost five times more Palestinian children were actually being killed.

Children Killed Reported, by SF Chronicle:

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/chron-fig6.gif

The San Francisco Chronicle reported 150% of Israeli children’s deaths and only 5% of Palestinian children’s deaths in headlines and/or lead paragraphs.

[Militant]

Do you not think that the act of killing yourself as well as others is an act that reeks of desperation and hopelessness, by a human being who has nothing more to live for in this life?

Israeli occupation has turned the lives of the Palestinian population into utter misery, and out of that misery comes the rare acts of terror that are committed in the name of freedom.

Even the Zionists know this:

I would have joined a terrorist organization

-- Ehud Barak's response to Gideon Levy, a columnist for the Ha'aretz newspaper, when Barak was asked what he would have done if he had been born a Palestinian.

End the occupation, and suicide bombings (a rare and relatively new tactic) will also cease.

I don't care if your life is hopeless, you don't target civilians. How does targeting a bus win a war? You openly admit later in your post that it can not lead to the defeat of Israel.

And the Israelis, while I admit they have a negative affect on the Palestinian people, their affect pales in comparison of the corruption and cronyism of their own leadership. The PA government has shown itself to be unable, or unwilling, to reign the actions of the Al-Asqa, HAMAS or Islamic Jihad terrorist organization. Can you fault the IDF for attempting to protect their own citizenry? Note that the crazed Jewish radical was arrested by the Israeli police.

If they ended the suicide bombings, the occupation would cease. In this case the Palestinians have failed to show any proof that they would stop hostilities. Israel as a much better history of acting inaccordence with their promises (return of the Sinai, this first attempt at PA rule)


The Palestinians went decades without resorting to acts of terror, such as suicide bombings against Israelis. In fact, the vast majority of Palestinians continue to pursue peaceful paths towards an end to the illegal occupation.

The problem with that, however, is that the Israelis do not hesitate to shoot at those peaceful activists (even if they are of Western origin) or to simply punish the Palestinians even more.

How long was Israel around before the Arabs attacked it?

Peace activists are never intentional killed, if you willing go to a war-zone there is always the chance you'll caught caught in the crossfire. If a soldier intentional kills an innocent, Israel tries them for murder. When Palestinian kills innocents, they make a movie celebrating them.

Don't bring up Rachel Corrie, it was proven that the driver couldn't see her.


That is a laugh!

The most powerful nation in the region being destroyed by a few suicide bombing terrorists!?

Get a brain.

How many wars has Israel started? That's right, none , unless you consider the mere act of Jews in the Middle East being a offense worth of war.


Where is the morality in the subjugation and oppression of a whole population?


Where is the morality of blowing buses, restaurants and dance clubs?

If they stopped fighting (and as the lesser force it generally is a good idea to be the one extending the hand of truce), there would be peace.

[Intifada]

I don't care if your life is hopeless, you don't target civilians. How does targeting a bus win a war?

I agree, and have never supported suicide bombings against civilians as a legitimate weapon against Israeli occupation.

I have an idea.

How about the West furnishes the poor Palestinians with the same top quality weaponry it unshakingly hands out to the Israelis? Surely then the Palestinians could fight "cleanly"?

If (as Israel claims) one wishes to see the end of terrorism, they must understand the causes of such rare extremist actions, and tackle the root cause. This, however, will not be done because Israel does not and has never committed itself to following international law, which calls for an end to the illegal occupation, whilst repeatedly clarifying the inalienable right of return for Palestinian refugees, along with the condemnation of more defiance of human rights.


You openly admit later in your post that it can not lead to the defeat of Israel.


So?

What is your point?


And the Israelis, while I admit they have a negative affect on the Palestinian people, their affect pales in comparison of the corruption and cronyism of their own leadership.

Yes because the occupation is maintained by the Palestinian leadership.

Please, shut the fuck up with your Zionist excuses for the illegal occupation of Palestinian land.


The PA government has shown itself to be unable, or unwilling, to reign the actions of the Al-Asqa, HAMAS or Islamic Jihad terrorist organization.

This is ridiculous.

The Israelis continually assault, terrorise, subjugate and murder innocent Palestinians every day, yet the Palestinian leadership is told to commit itself to dismantling the terrorist groups that thrive off the misery caused by Israel!

The victims of the illegal occupation and aggression are told to protect their occupiers and oppressors!

Such logic defies all common sense and human decency.

Yasser Arafat had bent over backwards to please the Zionists, imprisoning innocent Palestinians for crimes they did not commit, without a fair and proper trial.

Why should the oppressed protect and bow down to the commands of their oppressors?

What kind of "leftist" are you?


Can you fault the IDF for attempting to protect their own citizenry?

So you condone the daily assault on Palestinian men, women and children do you, simply because the I'D'F claims that doing so protects their own citizens?

You make me sick.

Don't the Palestinians, who are the oppressed in this conflict, have a right to defend themselves, after being illegally occupied and brutalised daily by their Israeli oppressors?


Note that the crazed Jewish radical was arrested by the Israeli police.


Ariel Sharon was arrested?!

Since when?!


If they ended the suicide bombings, the occupation would cease.

This ignorant statement typifies the idiocy and lack of knowledge on the conflict that you possess.

The first suicide bombing occured in 1994, almost 27 years since the illegal occupation of Palestinian land began.

Now tell me that the occupation would cease if suicide bombings ended.

The fact of the matter is that Palestinian suicide bombers are the product of the illegal occupation. Through oppression, Israel has single-handedly forged the enemy it claims to be fighting: the suicide bombers.


In this case the Palestinians have failed to show any proof that they would stop hostilities. Israel as a much better history of acting inaccordence with their promises (return of the Sinai, this first attempt at PA rule)


Israel has never been genuinely interested in reaching a just and true peace agreement with the Palestinians. Look at how quickly they broke their "promise" during the ceasefire that was agreed upon at the start of this year.

Is that why Israel continues to expand their illegal settlements, in violation of the US backed "peace-plan", whilst continuing their construction of an illegal apartheid wall?

Don't forget Barak's "generous" offers to the Palestinians either:

The Reality of Barak's "Generous" Offers (http://www.mediamonitors.net/gushshalom1.html)


How long was Israel around before the Arabs attacked it?


The Arabs only acted against the forced expulsion of the Palestinian population from villages like Der Yassin, where Israeli forces massacred more than 250 defenseless villagers, including around 100 women and children.

Israel used the Arab intervention on the side of the Palestinians as an excuse for the ethnic cleansing of the indigenous population. The Zionists claimed that they were only "defending" themselves from an unprovoked attack. Even Ben-Gurion spelt out the intentions of the Zionists:

The issue at hand is conquest not self-defense. As for the setting of borders - it's an open-ended matter... In each attack, a decisive blow should be struck, resulting in the destruction of homes and the expulsion of the population.

After the 1948 war, the Israelis continued their forced expulsion of Palestinians.

Read Benny Morris, a Zionist who admits that the I'D'F planned the uprooting of the Palestinians in order to make way for the state of Israel. This after all was the intentions of the Zionist project all along.

Recently declassified documents in the archives of the I'D'F reveal that in 1947, Ben-Gurion and other Zionist leaders concluded that a Jewish state could not come into being in the territory assigned to Jews by the UN without the ethnic cleansing of around 700000 Palestinians. In the months of April-May 1948, units of the Haganah were given operational orders that stated explicitly to uproot the villagers, expel them and destroy the villages themselves.

Morris said that this resulted in "far more Israeli acts of massacre than I had previously thought," including "many cases of rape [that] ended in murder" and executions of Palestinians who were lined up against a wall and shot (in Operation Hiram).

The dismantling of Palestinian society, the destruction of Palestinian towns and villages, and the expulsion of 700000 Palestinians were not "unavoidable consequences of the war declared on the emerging Jewish state by Arab countries."

In fact, as Morris repeatedly confirms, it was a deliberate and planned operation intended to "cleanse" (the term used in the declassified documents) those parts of Palestine assigned to the Jews as a prerequisite for the emergence of a Jewish state.

From the start, the Zionist plan was expulsion and conquest.

R. Weitz, the head of the colonization department of the Jewish Agency, a leading Zionist organization, wrote to other Zionists:

Between ourselves it must be clear that there is no room for both peoples together in this country... There is no other way than to transfer the Arabs from here to neighboring countries, to transfer all of them: Not one village, not one tribe, should be left.


Peace activists are never intentional killed, if you willing go to a war-zone there is always the chance you'll caught caught in the crossfire.

So how come Tom Hurndall was murdered?

Or James Miller, who was waving a white flag and calling out that he was a cameraman, yet was shot dead after spending the night at the home of a Palestinian family whose street was in the process of being demolished.

Fuck off with your Zionist crap.


If a soldier intentional kills an innocent, Israel tries them for murder.

Israeli soldiers are given harsher sentences for smoking marijuana than killing a Palestinian.


How many wars has Israel started?

Quite a lot of them.


Where is the morality of blowing buses, restaurants and dance clubs?

If they stopped fighting (and as the lesser force it generally is a good idea to be the one extending the hand of truce), there would be peace.

Sorry, but yet again you prove how ignorant you are of this conflict.

The illegal occupation and the wholesale destruction of Palestinian society came before any acts of terror began on the side of the Palestinians.

[Free Palestine]

If the Israelis laid down their arms today, there'd be no Israel tomorrow.

Palestine wouldn't pose a threat to Ireland, were it located beside Ireland, let alone a militarily advanced and sophisticated state like Israel.


If they ended the suicide bombings, the occupation would cease. In this case the Palestinians have failed to show any proof that they would stop hostilities. Israel as a much better history of acting inaccordence with their promises (return of the Sinai, this first attempt at PA rule)

The Israeli occupation started decades before pockets of the Palestinian resistance started using suicide bombings. Suicide bombings are a relatively recent phenomenon. They only started about 10 years ago. Zionist cretin such as yourself merely use them as an excuse to deny the Palestinians their right to an independent homeland (which Israel does not want).

Ever notice how these Zionist stooges only highlight the suicide bombings yet make no mention of hte brutal occupation and Israeli STATE terrorism that CAUSES them? It's like for over 50 years the Palestinians haven't been living under the gun, dispossessed, massacred, humiliated, and oppressed.


I don't care if your life is hopeless, you don't target civilians.

Nobody contended you should. Are you an idiot?


Peace activists are never intentional killed, if you willing go to a war-zone there is always the chance you'll caught caught in the crossfire.

As usual, you're wrong on virtually all acounts. Israeli military activities are carried out with impunity. This is a tacit Israeli policy -- that is, the target and assassination of foreign journalists/activists working in the occupied territories. The Israeli army views Gaza and the West Bank as free-fire zones and reserves the right to murder anyone it thinks is obstructing its operations against the Palestinian people.

-- In November 2002, British United Nations worker Iain Hook died after being shot in the back by an IDF soldier.

-- In the two months preceding Miller’s death, Israeli forces killed US citizen Rachel Corrie, she was slain by an Israeli soldier driving a bulldozer while trying to prevent the destruction of a Palestinian house in Rafah.

-- The IDF also shot American Brian Avery in the face.

-- The IDF also fatally wounded British citizen Tom Hurndall. (About Tom Hurndall: http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2...516235,00.html) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1516235,00.html))

Six journalists have been killed by Israeli soldiers and several more wounded since the eruption of the second Intifada five years ago.


How many wars has Israel started?

Israel started the Six-Day War war, for one, with the goal of annexing Arab land. I'd ask you to consider the following collection of quotes from Israeli generals and prime ministers, which support my claims. I don't wish to play the "who started first" game--depending on one's perspective, one can go back thousands of years. I do, however, wish to ask that you do more to ensure some truth in your comical and pathetic posts.


In the early hours of 5 June 1967, Israel announced that the Egyptian Air Force had initiated hostile actions. In fact, it was the Israelis who had attacked the Egyptians and destroyed virtually the entire Egyptian Air Force while its fleet was still on the ground. General Matityahu Peled, one of the architects of the Israeli conquest, admitted the true thinking of the Israeli leadership: "The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war" (Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972).


Israeli Air Force General Ezer Weizmann declared bluntly that "there was never any danger of extermination" (Ma'ariv, 19 April 1972). Mordechai Bentov, a former Israeli cabinet minister, also dismissed the myth of Israel's imminent annihilation: "All this story about the danger of extermination has been a complete invention and has been blown up a posteriori to justify the annexation of new Arab territories" (Al Hamishmar, 14 April 1972).


In sum, the threat to Israel's survival in 1967 was non-existent. According to the British newspaper The Observer, Nasser's purpose was clearly "to deter Israel rather than provoke it to a fight" (The Observer, London, 4 June 1967). New York Times columnist James Reston reported that "Egypt does not war [...] certainly is not ready for war" (New York Times, 4 and 5 June 1967).

A few months after the war, Yitzhak Rabin remarked:


"I do not think Nasser wanted war. The two divisions he sent to the Sinai on 14 May would not have been sufficient to launch an offensive against Israel. He knew it and we knew it" (Le Monde, 29 February 1968).

Israeli General Peled was even more frank:


"To pretend that the Egyptian forces massed on our frontiers were in a position to threaten the existence of Israel constitutes an insult not only to the intelligence of anyone capable of analyzing this sort of situation, but above all an insult to the Zahal [Israeli army]" (Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972).

Finally, in 1982, the Israelis admitted that they had started the war although the pro-Israel lobby in the United States still does not acknowledge this fact. Prime Minister Menachem Begin, in a speech delivered at the Israeli National Defense College, clearly stated that:


"The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him" (Jerusalem Post, 20 August 1982).


If a soldier intentional kills an innocent, Israel tries them for murder.

Is that why Cpt. R was not even indicted for the murder of unarmed thirteen-year-old Imam Hams? This is of course as to be expected from a scum state like Israel, and is just one example out of thousands. The prevailing Israeli view that it is absolutely acceptable to kill Palestinian civilians regardless of age or gender will prevail. If a Palestinian child is at least 11, IDF butchers have the permission to them without punishment. That was the reason, why Captain R. - the soldier that finally executed Iman Hams - again and again asked the buddies in his watchtower, if she appeared to be older then eleven.


Where is the morality of blowing buses, restaurants and dance clubs?

Who's blowing up buses? You are laying the blame on the wrong people. The millions of Palestinians who are forced into miserable enclaves where they are denied adequate water to develop their societies have nothing to do with the terrorism you speak of. Those acts are carried out by militant groups who may draw sympathy from the population but still act on their own. The people you are blaming are innocents caught in the middle of the conflict. Stop blaming the victims.


How many wars has Israel started? That's right, none , unless you consider the mere act of Jews in the Middle East being a offense worth of war.

Too ridiculous to merit comment. You are really showing yourself to be quite the sideshow idiot here.

[Tekun]

Free Palestine: good lookin out with the info bro
Now I have ammunition to use against those that oppose the Palestinians

I am on your side bro, Free Palestine!

[FreeChechnya]

Killing innocent civilians? How are these civilians? This is an occupying/invading people in a stolen land. It is war.