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Sabocat
20th October 2005, 10:44
I just read this article, and would like to hear comments from our Australian comrades. I found the Sedition section of this Bill to be particularly frightening. Is there any movement starting up to resist or fight this Bill?

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Australia: Leaked Anti-Terrorism Bill details draconian police-state plans
By Mike Head
20 October 2005


A leaked copy of an in-confidence draft of the Anti-Terrorism Bill 2005 has confirmed the police-state character of the measures being drawn up by the federal Howard government, with support from the Australian state and territory chief ministers. Under the guise of combatting terrorism, the legislation will introduce unprecedented and draconian police and intelligence powers.

Australian Capital Territory (ACT) Chief Minister Jon Stanhope posted the document on his official web site last Friday, provoking furious denunciations by Prime Minister John Howard and other ministers, who had planned to keep the legislation under wraps until November 1. Their intention was to push it through both houses of parliament in just two weeks, without any serious debate by MPs, let alone genuine public scrutiny and discussion.

The secret draft puts into black and white what was agreed by Howard and the Labor Party chief ministersincluding Stanhopeat a two-hour closed-door Council of Australian Governments counter-terrorism summit on September 27. Taken as a whole, the Bill represents a wholesale assault on fundamental democratic rights, including freedom from arbitrary arrest, free speech and the freedom of political association.

First and foremost, the legislation provides for extensive detention without charge or trial, on the flimsiest of pretexts. With no notice or legal hearing, any person can be thrown into secret preventative detention or placed, by a control order, in isolation under house arrest.

Any application made by such a person to a court to overturn the internment could take weeks, if not months, effectively giving the federal government (and the state and territory governments, which have pledged to pass matching legislation) unchecked powers.

In order to evade the Constitution, which bars the federal government from imposing punishment on Australian citizens without trial, preventative detention by the Australian Federal Police (AFP) will be limited to 48 hours, but the states and territories have agreed to extend this to 14 days for their respective police forces.

Moreover, the AFP can hand its prisoners over to the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO) for up to a week of detention and interrogation, under the powers granted to ASIO in 2003. In addition, there is nothing to prevent continuously repeated detentions, provided that the authorities allege they are necessary to thwart a new terrorist threat.

To obtain a preventative detention order from an issuing authority (a specially appointed judge or magistrate), all that the AFP has to allege is that the person is reasonably suspected of intending to engage in a terrorist act or possesses something connected with the preparation of such an act.

Those detained cannot inform anyoneexcept a lawyerof their incarceration. They can contact a family member or employer, but only to report that they are safe. If they or their lawyer, or a family member, or anyone else, discloses that they have been locked up, the penalty is five years jail.

All conversations, including with their lawyer, are monitored, violating the principle of lawyer-client confidentiality. Prohibited contact orders can also prohibit contact with their own lawyer, and the police can prevent them from speaking to any lawyer who does not have an ASIO security clearance.

Detainees aged 16 to 18 can speak to their parent or guardian, but only for two hours a day.

Deadly force can be used to break into houses to drag someone away for detention. The Bill authorises police to use lethal force to stop someone fleeing custody, if they deem it necessary to prevent serious injury to another person. The police are only obliged to call on the person to surrender (if practicable) before opening fire.

This specifically allows for the shoot-to-kill policy used in the gunning down of an innocent Brazilian immigrant worker, Jean Charles de Menezes, by British police in a London subway carriage last July. Like Menezes, the person fleeing may not even know that their pursuers are police officers.

Control orders go even further than detention. They can last even longerup to 12 monthswith provision for successive orders. They can range from full house arrest to imposition of tracking devices and bans on contact with nominated, or all, people.

In effect, the victims can be barred from working, publicly campaigning against their internment or communicating with their associates. They can also be blocked from contacting any lawyer who has been specified as a prohibited contact person. A breach of these conditions also brings five years jail.

An order can be imposed on the vaguest possible grounds, such as that it would substantially assist in preventing a terrorist act.

The peak legal body, the Law Council of Australia, has pointed out that detention and control orders could easily be used to round up people to prevent planned anti-war or anti-corporate demonstrations, like the protests in recent years against gatherings of politicians or corporate executives. The scope for political repression is great, because terrorism is defined so broadly that it can cover many traditional forms of protest, such as blockading a building in pursuit of a political cause.


Sedition and advocacy

None of these powers has anything to do with fighting terrorism. In fact, the Howard government itself has played a key role in inflaming the threat of terrorism by its support for and participation in the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq.

The underlying motivation behind the legislation is revealed in its criminalisation of a wide range of political free speech. Under the Bill, it will, for the first time, be a crime for an organisation to advocate terrorism, which includes directly or indirectly counselling or urging a terrorist act and directly praising terrorism.

The Attorney-General (currently Philip Ruddock) can use this power to unilaterally ban any group as a terrorist organisation, thus exposing all its members, supporters and financial donors to years of imprisonment. The provision can extend to outlawing political parties and publications that express any sympathy for, or even call for an understanding of, the causes of terrorist actions.

Secondly, the Bill dramatically expands the scope of sedition, and more than doubles the punishment, from three to seven years imprisonment. Sedition will include urging disaffection against the Constitution, the government or either house of parliament. Previously, the law referred to exciting disaffection, which indicates active agitation, rather than political argument.

Sedition will also include promoting feelings of ill-will or hostility between different groups or urging conduct that is intended to assist an organisation or country engaged in armed hostilities against the Australian military.

If applied during the Vietnam War, the latter clause would have seen people charged for raising the slogan Victory to the NLF. Today, it could be used to jail anyone supporting the right of the Iraqi people to resist the criminal US-led occupation of their country.

The Bill also imposes life imprisonment for recklessly giving funds to a person or group that could be used for terrorism, even if no terrorist act occurs or the funds are not used for a specific act. This measure could be used against anyone who donates to a religious, political or humanitarian cause that is later accused of links to terrorism.


Vast police powers

The Bill extends to the police wide-ranging powers to stop, interrogate and search people in public places, and to seize items. The government can also declare prescribed security zones, in which police can exercise these powers without having to allege any specific connection to a planned terrorist act.

Magistrates can order people, including lawyers, to hand over documents and records, overriding all existing protections of confidentiality, lawyer-client privilege and incrimination of a person.

Secret surveillance cameras can be installed in airports and aircraft, and airline and shipping company passenger details can be seized, as can the customer records of financial institutions.

ASIOs powers to secretly enter premises and access computers and other equipment will be strengthened.

Overall, the Bill dramatically extends the previously unimaginable powers already handed to the government and its security agencies in the 26 counter-terrorism Acts adopted since 2001.

Prime Minister Howard has made clear that whatever fine-tuning is performed on the Bill before it is introduced into parliament on November 1; none of its essential features will alter. Despite an outcry from members of the public, civil liberties groups and legal bodies over the totalitarian measures contained within it, Howard declared on Monday that it would not be watered down. What is going to be in that legislation is what I announced and what the states agreed to [on September 27] ... no more and no less.

Howard also unveiled a dramatic increase in the size of ASIO, doubling its staffing levels from 980 to 1860 by 2010-11. This will far exceed the levels reached in the 1980s, toward the end of the Cold War, when the spy agency employed a record 760 personnel. Already the organisations size and budget have almost doubled since the September 11 terrorist attacks in the United States, with its numbers boosted from 584 in 2001 and a budget rising to $171.7 million in 2005-06.

Throughout the Cold War and the Vietnam War, ASIO had a notorious record of spying, harassment and dirty tricks directed against government opponents and critics, including socialists, trade unionists, journalists and suspect public servants. The war on terrorism is now being utilised to extend the political policing powers of the state machinery far further, explicitly trampling over fundamental civil liberties and legal rights previously regarded as sacrosanct.

Link (http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/oct2005/terr-o20.shtml)

Commie Rat
20th October 2005, 11:52
The war on terror is the golden goose for this kind of shit, dont be thinking it is going to end soon either

Commie Rat
21st October 2005, 11:33
A Northern Territory Mp has been repremanded and the NT state gov. now has no power over amendments or ratifcations of the bill becasue they posted on the website for public feedback

bombeverything
21st October 2005, 12:12
There is a protest tomorrow in Melbourne. I will most certainly be there.

rioters bloc
21st October 2005, 12:16
melbourne is the activist hotspot of australia. i need to move there.

i saw you all on the news a coupla days ago, riotous fun that i missed out on :(

our anz action bombed today - fucking coppers. they were everywhere.

good luck for tomoz!!!

visceroid
21st October 2005, 12:24
oh well, those stupid fucks who let howard get the senate aswell as the house of reps will be regretting it now

rioters bloc
21st October 2005, 12:29
bah, labor's just as bad - hear what beazley proposed about the 'suburb lockdowns'? i wonder which suburbs are going to be targeted - bondi? kirribilli? the sutherland shire?

or perhaps lakemba, bankstown, greenacre and anywhere else where there is a predominantly muslim population.

visceroid
21st October 2005, 13:38
fair enough labor is just as bad, but you never want 1 party having majority in the senate and reps

rioters bloc
21st October 2005, 13:42
thats true. i hate having to count on Liberals like barnaby joyce and hope that they'll cross the floor on some issues.

bombeverything
21st October 2005, 21:38
Originally posted by rioters [email protected] 21 2005, 12:00 PM
melbourne is the activist hotspot of australia. i need to move there.

i saw you all on the news a coupla days ago, riotous fun that i missed out on :(

our anz action bombed today - fucking coppers. they were everywhere.

good luck for tomoz!!!

Yeah there is quite alot on today, although I don't know if I can make it to everything. Anyway it should be a great day anyway, cheers!

Commie Rat
22nd October 2005, 02:45
damn being stuck in fucking NQ nothing happens up here

visceroid
22nd October 2005, 12:17
Originally posted by rioters [email protected] 21 2005, 12:00 PM

our anz action bombed today - fucking coppers. they were everywhere.

hah, that happened to us at the beginning of the year, outside ANZ, two of us got arrested

rioters bloc
22nd October 2005, 12:36
Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2005, 10:01 PM

hah, that happened to us at the beginning of the year, outside ANZ, two of us got arrested
my bf got arrested outside anz earlier this year, so did a coupla my friends. one got let go though [fucking intimidation tactics]

where are you visceroid? im on the victorian 'universities and militarism' elist for some reason, instead of the nsw one :P

Commie Rat
26th October 2005, 06:17
a full copy of the bill is still availbe from NT state gov. website as at 24,10,05
and section 7 (sedition) is aviable from the MediaWatch section of ABC.com

if that is outdated then here it is
Pdf very large

Mujer Libre
26th October 2005, 06:34
I only saw a poster for that demo in Melbourne after the event. Odd that. I guess I've been unusually busy lately.

But this shit is frightening, and goes hand in hand with all the other legislation the government is trying to push through. Soon it will be illegal to even think bad things about the government. <_<

I&#39;m so tempted to go into a Bunnings and bu large amounts of fertiliser and see what happens. Then repeat the experiment wearing a headscarf, although yeah, being "of South Asian appearance" should be enough to get ASIO involved... :P

Clutch
26th October 2005, 11:08
Is there any way to get rid of our neo-fascist government? Or doesn&#39;t anyone in this fucked up country care about where we are headed? :angry:

Monty Cantsin
26th October 2005, 11:58
The labor state governments are growing more discontent with the details in this new anti-terror bill. Howard has backed down on trying to race the legislation into effect bypassing parliamentarian debate. Concerns though have been very much focused on the shoot-to kill policy which was abused in England during their terror attacks. The other problems arent really being talked about by labor like the control orders and sedition and all the other stuff that subverts the separation of powers and the rule of law.

rioters bloc
26th October 2005, 12:13
this (http://www.chiefminister.act.gov.au/docs/B05PG201_v281.pdf) is the document

fucking scary

i love how all the politicans got together in front of a press conference and when questioned "Aren&#39;t the proposed laws draconian?" they proudly answered "yes".

Mujer Libre
26th October 2005, 23:37
I was checking the weather on ninemsn this morning, and I took the newspol; the question being, "Do you think the police should have the right to shoot to kill" or something along those lines.

And (yeah I know.. its ninemsn, but it&#39;s still worrying) the majority of people said yes. :(

rioters bloc
27th October 2005, 07:07
Originally posted by Mujer [email protected] 27 2005, 09:21 AM
I was checking the weather on ninemsn this morning, and I took the newspol; the question being, "Do you think the police should have the right to shoot to kill" or something along those lines.

And (yeah I know.. its ninemsn, but it&#39;s still worrying) the majority of people said yes. :(
its freaky hey

a few weeks back the smh did a survey of about 1500 people asking them questions abt &#39;national security&#39;. the results were fucking scary. something like 70% of people supported shoot to kill. something like 85% of people said that the govt should deport &#39;terror suspects&#39; [how fucked up is that, they&#39;re suspects for fucks sake. and whats worse is the assumption in the question that all terror suspects are going to be ethnic and not an aussie citizen]. there were more questions but i cant remember them now. whats even worse is that we took the same poll in my supposedly left-wing class [cos i do social inquiry, and we were studying polling methods and stuff at the time] and 10% supported shoot to kill and 20% supported deportation...WHAT THE FUCK??

Commie Rat
27th October 2005, 07:20
sorry about the wrong name on my post comp fuck up.
it is just a saved version of the one on the NT site i got before it was allegdly shutting down

rioters bloc
30th October 2005, 13:07
Lunchtime protest: Demand that NSW Premier Iemma opposes the terror laws - [although really, how likely is that? fucking right-wing labor fucker :angry:]

12:30pm Wednesday 2 November
NSW State Parliament, Macquarie St

w00t

visceroid
30th October 2005, 13:32
Originally posted by rioters bloc+Oct 22 2005, 12:20 PM--> (rioters bloc @ Oct 22 2005, 12:20 PM)
[email protected] 22 2005, 10:01 PM

hah, that happened to us at the beginning of the year, outside ANZ, two of us got arrested
my bf got arrested outside anz earlier this year, so did a coupla my friends. one got let go though [fucking intimidation tactics]

where are you visceroid? im on the victorian &#39;universities and militarism&#39; elist for some reason, instead of the nsw one :P [/b]
im in perth

rioters bloc
3rd November 2005, 04:19
fuck me dead. trigger happy bastards arent they?

how lucky for Howard to be able to announce a "new" "specific" information on threats the day the laws are introduced in parliament:


Police on standby for terror cell raids

By Tom Allard, Marian Wilkinson and Joseph Kerr
SMH
November 3, 2005

Security agencies are poised to swoop on alleged terrorist cells throughout the country once Parliament passes an amendment to the anti-terrorism laws today.

The Prime Minister, John Howard, said yesterday he had received new, "specific" intelligence this week from spies and police indicating a "potential terrorist threat".

"The immediate passage of this amendment would strengthen the capacity of the law enforcement agencies to effectively respond to this threat," he said.

The Opposition agreed to the amendment after its leader, Kim Beazley, was briefed on the intelligence. Security agencies believe the new law increases their chances of successfully prosecuting suspects.

Despite the fresh intelligence, the overall terrorist threat level remains at medium. A "high" level indicates that an attack is believed to be imminent. "We might be advised any moment to change that," Mr Howard said.

The amendment to the anti-terrorism laws seems minor, but it has significant implications. Rather than having to prove that a suspect intends to undertake "the" terrorist act, the wording will be changed to "a" terrorist act.

This, the Government believes, means it does not need specific evidence about the timing and location of the planned attack to secure a successful prosecution, just that an attack was planned. The change will also significantly limit the ability of defence lawyers to defend terrorist suspects.

With Labor&#39;s support, the amendment will pass through the Senate today. The Governor-General will be on standby to give the royal assent.

ASIO and police will be able to make arrests almost immediately. A senior security source said the legal issues solved by the amendment had been the main barrier to the raids.

The Herald understands that, while the intelligence presented this week is actionable, it does not reveal a location or timing of an attack. It also builds on earlier intelligence.

The NSW and Victorian premiers, Morris Iemma and Steve Bracks, were briefed on the threat on Tuesday night, and offered their support. Other state leaders were also consulted.

Government and security sources downplayed speculation that the intelligence related to the targeting of trains, buses or aircraft, saying it would be wrong for the public to panic.

Mr Howard urged people to remain calm "in the time-honoured and wonderful Australian fashion".

Mr Beazley said the intelligence was "not of a general nature", "highly specific" and in "very considerable detail" but the Attorney-General, Philip Ruddock, told the ABC last night that it did not relate to a specific act. He would not say whether it related to an Islamist threat.

Several barristers told the Herald that the defence of at least one important terrorism case rested on the lack of the police evidence to prove the suspect was about to engage in a specific terrorist act. The change will not be retrospective and does not relate to controversial aspects of the new anti-terrorism laws such as preventive detention orders.

Mr Beazley would not be drawn on suggestions that the public way Mr Howard announced the threat could tip off the suspected terrorists.

Clive Williams, a terrorism expert at the Australian National University, suspected a political motive in the timing of the legal changes. "Every so often we get these cases come up, but why the publicity? I think there&#39;s a degree of political cunning," he said.

&#39;If terrorists watch the news, the Prime Minister&#39;s unnecessary announcement gave them an excellent warning.&#39;

Donna
3rd November 2005, 10:13
"Every so often we get these cases come up, but why the publicity? I think there&#39;s a degree of political cunning," he said.

or just a straight out lie as normal from Mr Howard. :( :angry:

Clutch
3rd November 2005, 11:44
All too convenient... Plus, with that part on sedition and advocacy, you won&#39;t be free to challenge government policies, which effectively cements their IR reforms in place as well. Cunning bastards. :angry:

rioters bloc
3rd November 2005, 11:46
i had a really intense discussion with my parents tonight about both the anti-terror and union legislation. hearing about how their own workplaces are going to be affected drove it home even more. it&#39;s fucking scary.

Clutch
3rd November 2005, 13:26
I&#39;m in the same boat. And being an apprentice, I can&#39;t participate in any strike action without the company&#39;s approval.

rioters bloc
3rd November 2005, 20:50
far out :/ my boss is probably one of the best bosses anyone could have, he&#39;s a really decent understanding guy, but he&#39;s leaving in a week and we&#39;re gonna get someone new, i&#39;m a little worried.

Clutch
4th November 2005, 09:37
That same thing happened where I work a few years ago. We traded a gentleman-asshole for a fuckwit-asshole.

rioters bloc
13th December 2005, 22:45
oh, did i mention that this got passed?

with the sedition parts of it?

this country is entirely, utterly, completely, fucked

Nathe
14th December 2005, 00:42
Rioters bloc:
this country is entirely, utterly, completely, fucked

too true

they said that sedition laws would only come in for people "advocating terrorism", but thats such a vague term. i could probably be put in prison for half of my ideals.
i saw on a fact sheet that you could get 7 years for saying "iraqis have the right to resist US occupation"
that makes me scared.

i also read in the newspaper (cant remember which) that it had gone through a reading, and the oposition had picked heaps of major flaws, that could lead to the laws being abused. but they still went through,
just being an informal member of an unnaproved organisation can land you in prison for 10 years.

heres a fact sheet in PDF put out by the aussie greens
Anti-terror bill factsheet (http://www.greens.org.au/hotissues/terrorismbill/factsheet.pdf)