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19th October 2005, 12:51
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5 Torture Victims Arrested at Hunter College

This afternoon at Hunter students did not just stroll to class and enter their cafeteria during their lunch break. They were confronted with 6 masked people in bright orange jump suits calling to them "Take the Leash!" 5 torture victims remained still, kneeling on the ground with their heads bowed as one victim challenged people "Take the Leash." World Can't Wait organizers flyered the on looking crowd and powerfully challenging them "You are complicit with Torture, You are saying you are okay with Abu Girab unless you are resisting and mobilizing others to Drive this regime out of power, what will you be doing Nov. 2nd?" A scene started to develop and a crowd of students began to look on.

Hunter College police began cuffing the torture victims and rounding them up. A thick crowd of students in the hundreds circled the torture victims looking on as police officers pounded the victims to the ground, kneeling on them and one officer punched an arrestee in the stomach. Students witnessed the brutality, some began crying telling the officers to STOP, Stop brutalizing them. A large majority of students looked on as spectators, while World CanŐt Wait organizers challenged the crowd, "Would you stand by as they rounded up the Jews in Nazi Germany? They are rounding people up now what are you going to do? They are rounding up people right in front of your face why are you not opposing this?!"

The torture victims made a very powerful stand today and were attacked by the Hunter College administration. Bold actions that can challenge people what are they going to do with their lives are what the world is calling for and we can only transform Campuses around the country on this basis.

Two arrestees are being charged with; rioting, trespassing, obstructing justice and resisting arrest and still being held under arrest.

We are urging anyone who is reading this to email and call the President of Hunter, get others you know to clog their mailbox and phone lines demanding that these unjust charges be dropped immediately.

Hunter College President Jennifer Raab
Telephone: (212) 772-4242 Fax: (212) 772-4724
Email the President at [email protected]

Severian
19th October 2005, 13:23
Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2005, 06:35 AM
World Can't Wait organizers flyered the on looking crowd and powerfully challenging them "You are complicit with Torture, You are saying you are okay with Abu Girab unless you are resisting and mobilizing others to Drive this regime out of power, what will you be doing Nov. 2nd?"
If you're not with us, you're with the terrorists!

Wanted Man
19th October 2005, 13:29
That's right, show the reactions of the bourgeoisie to the masses. Great action.

flyby
19th October 2005, 17:21
Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2005, 01:13 PM
That's right, show the reactions of the bourgeoisie to the masses. Great action.
There is an old saying from the Roman empire: "Silence gives consent."

We need to challenge people: what are you doing? where do you stand? Are you just wandering around in a daze or are you taking history into your hands? Are you mumbling negative complaints, or actually organizing the people around you for November 2?

On a site like this, there are always people who snipe at anything positive -- but i really feel we should ignore the armchair cynics and the advocates of passivity.

What are you doing at your school for November 2?

Wanted Man
19th October 2005, 17:36
I wasn't being sarcastic. Anyway, I'm sad to say that I do not reside in America.

flyby
19th October 2005, 17:40
I'm sure you weren't being sarcastic. How could anyone with a progressive bone and a sense of these times, diss this action.

Let me ask you a favor:

Since you live outside the U.S. -- tell the comrades here who live INSIDE the U.S. what it would mean to the world if a powerful movement was built by us to DRIVE OUT THE BUSH REGIME!

The slogan here in the U.S. is "The World Can't Wait" -- perhaps people from outside the U.S. can describe how IMPATIENT they are to see this whole Bush agenda defeated!

Tell us about it!

Wanted Man
19th October 2005, 18:50
Well, the driving out of the Bush regime is important, but it should be a means, rather than a goal. The goal is clear: the end of imperialism, and socialist revolution in the USA. If this were to happen, a great deal of pressure would go off the rest of the world, especially the countries that have been victimised by U.S. imperialism for the last century and hopefully awaken the proletariat in the European Union to the point of following your example.

If you're taking any advice, let me expand on my last post: provoke the bourgeoisie. Show the violence that the pigs are using in the name of their reactionary policies, and make sure your responses are nothing but counters to their aggression. And make sure people actually hear about this, a couple of hundred people nationwide screaming for revolution won't impress anyone. I can't agree with some of the RCP politics, but such issues do not matter now, at least this can lead to the formation of a strong, single-minded vanguard.

RedStarOverChina
19th October 2005, 19:04
Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2005, 12:24 PM
Let me ask you a favor:

Since you live outside the U.S. -- tell the comrades here who live INSIDE the U.S. what it would mean to the world if a powerful movement was built by us to DRIVE OUT THE BUSH REGIME!
I'm working on it :) I really am.

Wanted Man
19th October 2005, 19:34
I dropped the president a line, probably won't do much, but ah well. Might I remind the people dissing this effort here that school walkouts and the like may not look like much, but so far it's a lot more than what has been achieved in most western countries. It would be ignorance to not see the revolutionary perspective. If I entered my school dressed as a torture victim and accusing everyone of complicity, I'd just end up getting laughed at. The advancement of the American proletariat is evident.

flyby
19th October 2005, 21:25
Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2005, 06:34 PM
Well, the driving out of the Bush regime is important, but it should be a means, rather than a goal. The goal is clear: the end of imperialism, and socialist revolution in the USA.
well put -- and that is precisely the view of the RCP.

It is not the view of everyone involved in the struggle against the government and its agenda -- but that is part of the unity-struggle-unity of the class struggle.

The Revolutionary Potential of the Masses and the Responsibility of the Vanguard (http://rwor.org/a/1270/avakian-revolutionary-masses-vanguard.htm)

flyby
19th October 2005, 21:28
Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2005, 07:18 PM
If I entered my school dressed as a torture victim and accusing everyone of complicity, I'd just end up getting laughed at.
I don't think that is true. Many people are deeply disturbed by this direciton of things and by Abu Ghraib.

If you did this you would identify the advanced, influence theintermediate, and make major and rapid strides toward developing a core that could take up the struggle.

If you try it, you will see. People will be shocked and disturbed -- and forced to confront where they are actually standing and what they are actually accepting about the world today.

TC
19th October 2005, 23:47
Originally posted by Severian+Oct 19 2005, 01:07 PM--> (Severian @ Oct 19 2005, 01:07 PM)
[email protected] 19 2005, 06:35 AM
World Can't Wait organizers flyered the on looking crowd and powerfully challenging them "You are complicit with Torture, You are saying you are okay with Abu Girab unless you are resisting and mobilizing others to Drive this regime out of power, what will you be doing Nov. 2nd?"
If you're not with us, you're with the terrorists! [/b]
Thats right. You should be with the so called "terrorists" (Iraqi army irregulars), or you're with the bush administration.