Capitalist Writers

[drain.you]

Hey,
Just wondering what capitalist writers exist? I would quite like to read such writings if they exist. Don't get me wrong, I'm completely left-wing but I'd just like to have a read, if anyone can point me in the right direction.

[visceroid]

if you dont mind losing a few IQ points in the process, you could read some stuff by ayn rand. but if you want stuff on economics, adam smith and... ugh... mises

[Dimentio]

Alexandre Dumas I should say, since he hired unemployed impoverished writers and gave them food and shelter in Paris, in the same time as they in return together wrote the books which now are signed "Dumas".

Among other the "Three musketeers" and the "Man with the Iron mask".

[Monty Cantsin]

If you want to read pro-capitalist economics just pick up you’re a regular university economics text book.

[truthaddict11]

Originally posted by Monty [email protected] 18 2005, 08:40 AM
If you want to read pro-capitalist economics just pick up you’re a regular university economics text book.
im taking maco right now and all it is is an exclamation of policies, supply demand, ect. not much mention of communism or capitalism just plain economics.

[Dimentio]

truthaddict - Most economics are based on scarcity based administration, i.e monetary exchange systems [price systems]. If we wish to build up a community where we could utilize the resource-usage in the shaping of prosperity and opportunities for all individuals, we must first and foremost abolish money and replace it with energy accounting.

:)

[KC]

im taking maco right now and all it is is an exclamation of policies, supply demand, ect. not much mention of communism or capitalism just plain economics.

Exactly. Capitalist economics! (They aren't named "capitalist economics" because they are economics under the capitalist system. So they can just say "economics!")

[Morpheus]

Just open the opinion section of any major national newspaper. They're all 100% capitalist, though usually they focus more on bickering with each other than on attacking non-capitalist ideas (apparently they regard anti-capitalism as unthinkable). You could also try http://www.foxnews.com or http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/browse

[Jimmie Higgins]

Read "the Economist" or anything else that is targeted at "movers and shakers" because it will cut out the BS and have articles with titles like "Why the US has the right to be imperilaist".

http://www.magazines.com/ncom/mag?mid=0000...w=the+economist (http://www.magazines.com/ncom/mag?mid=0000001480&afd_number=3823&gtse=goog&gtkw=the+economist)

Just look at this desscription and that'll tell ya it written for the people at the top:


About The Economist: The news and business publication written expressly for top business decision-makers and opinion leaders. Each issue explores the links between domestic and international issues, business, finance, current affairs, science, technology and the arts.

[Freedom Works]

If you want to read pro-capitalist economics just pick up you’re a regular university economics text book.

They aren't pro-Capitalist, they are pro-Statist. Because you are a Statist, you cannot see that.

[Jimmie Higgins]

You should read "the economist" too, Freedom Works and see how the people you claim "statism" represses (induvidual buiness leaders and so on) actually rely on states to carry out the intrests of business.

[bed_of_nails]

Hernando De Soto isnt too hard to read.

[Freedom Works]

induvidual buiness leaders and so on) actually rely on states to carry out the intrests of business.
Protectionism is suck.

[Led Zeppelin]

Karl Marx and the Close of His System (http://www.marxists.org/subject/economy/authors/bohm/index.htm) by Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk.

[Monty Cantsin]

Originally posted by Freedom [email protected] 19 2005, 03:28 AM

If you want to read pro-capitalist economics just pick up you’re a regular university economics text book.

They aren't pro-Capitalist, they are pro-Statist. Because you are a Statist, you cannot see that.
Well what you’re arguing is that Capitalism is the ‘unknown ideal’ i.e. real capitalism is Laissez-faire Capitalism. The problem is that your conception of capitalism is, well wrong.

Anyways I’ve got two economic text book and there very liberal and write of Keynes and Marx as outsiders and critics of economics.

[Dimentio]

Howard Scott once stated that "Marxian socialism is so far at the right... that it is bourgeoisie."

:)

I read "the Economist" yesterday, it smelled quite good, a bit bitter, a bit arrogant and a bit self-righteous. It had one interesting article, about the powerful Russian company GazProm, and how it was somekind of a threat to American companies competing for Eurasian natural resources.

"The Economist" seems mostly to try to carry on the "great legacy" from "Daily Telegraph" and other conservative newspapers, while Fox News and "the Sun" serves what it perceives as the character of "ordinary folks".

[Monty Cantsin]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2005, 10:35 AM
Howard Scott once stated that "Marxian socialism is so far at the right... that it is bourgeoisie."

Got a source? Or at least a bit of context for me so I can do my own searching.

[workersunity]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2005, 11:51 AM

im taking maco right now and all it is is an exclamation of policies, supply demand, ect. not much mention of communism or capitalism just plain economics.

Exactly. Capitalist economics! (They aren't named "capitalist economics" because they are economics under the capitalist system. So they can just say "economics!")
they dont say capitalist economics because they take their economics-neo-classical economics as truth, as there are no other ones, they dont believe their are paradigms in knowledge

[drain.you]

cheers guys :)

[Zingu]

I've read Mises's "Socialism" a whopper of a book, but the whole arguement lies on the assumption that Socialism is state capitalism. :(

[BeardedBolshevist]

Ayn Rand. In my himble opinion, this 'well meaning' writer is worse than Hitler. She wrote that everybody should strive to achieve their own goals, and that altruism is a weakness at best, and counter-productive. now can you think of a society today that follows this belief? thats right, "America", which is not true America. George Washington would have revolted against King George Bush II of America, just as he did with King George Hanover III. Bush is more or less of an objectivist in the Randian sense. and Bush's "America tm" is not a true representation of the Revolutionary ideal of America.

[Publius]

if you dont mind losing a few IQ points in the process, you could read some stuff by ayn rand. but if you want stuff on economics, adam smith and... ugh... mises

Don't read Rand.

She doesn't speak for us.

Smith and Mises are both very dense.

I would start with the book Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell.

[Publius]

If you want to read pro-capitalist economics just pick up you’re a regular university economics text book.

That would be like trying to learn how to drive by picking up a mechanics manual.

Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell will serve you well enough without the jargon and trade lingo.

[Publius]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2005, 05:37 PM




truthaddict - Most economics are based on scarcity based administration, i.e monetary exchange systems [price systems]. If we wish to build up a community where we could utilize the resource-usage in the shaping of prosperity and opportunities for all individuals, we must first and foremost abolish money and replace it with energy accounting.

Why not simply use money as an accounting method FOR 'energy accounting'?

This fixation with getting rid of money is insipid.

Money exists for a reason, beyond the capitalist ones.

[workersunity]

Originally posted by Freedom [email protected] 18 2005, 09:28 PM

If you want to read pro-capitalist economics just pick up you’re a regular university economics text book.

They aren't pro-Capitalist, they are pro-Statist. Because you are a Statist, you cannot see that.
then you sir are quite ignorant.

Im in an econ course right now and the book we are reading is wrote by samuelson and nordhaus, pretty big cappies, keynesians albeit

[Publius]

Read "the Economist" or anything else that is targeted at "movers and shakers" because it will cut out the BS and have articles with titles like "Why the US has the right to be imperilaist".

Bullshit.

The first article that comes up on a search for 'Imperialist' is:

Manifest destiny warmed up?

Aug 14th 2003
From The Economist print edition
America, it is said, is the world's latest imperial power. Don't believe it


But do read the Economist. It's fabulous.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

the Economist. It's fabulous.

For wiping your ass.

[Publius]

For wiping your ass.

Yes, I do quite enjoy having you wipe my ass, though I need to make clear that you are to use TOILET PAPER and not MAGAZINES. Presumably the difference is lost on one of your intellectual esteem or lack thereof; you simply can't tell the difference.

I'll try to correct you next time.

[Freedom Works]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2005, 09:19 PM
I've read Mises's "Socialism" a whopper of a book, but the whole arguement lies on the assumption that Socialism is state capitalism. :(
That was the argument the socialists were adhering to at the time.

[JKP]

Originally posted by Freedom Works+Oct 23 2005, 11:44 PM--> (Freedom Works @ Oct 23 2005, 11:44 PM)
[email protected] 19 2005, 09:19 PM
I've read Mises's "Socialism" a whopper of a book, but the whole arguement lies on the assumption that Socialism is state capitalism. :(
That was the argument the socialists were adhering to at the time. [/b]
Umm... Anarchism? Spain 36?

[Freedom Works]

Umm... Anarchism? Spain 36?
They were adhering to the idea that command economies are more productive than the anarchy of the free market.

It's wrong, but that doesn't stop them from thinking it. :)