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Dimentio
16th October 2005, 01:24
Hello, my name is Enrique, and I'm a member of NET, the Network of European Technocrats.

We are a newly found [2004] scientific and educational network that is working on 1] establish a clear view of the European energy potential through an Energy Survey and 2] to work for the implementation of the teachings of Technocracy in Europe and elsewhere in the world.

The reason why I have come here is that I hope to learn, and to teach as well, in a free exchange of information. What I am curious about are modern leftist ideas and how the development on this forum goes.

What I hope that I could give you in exchange, is awareness about the work of the Technical Alliance and of Technocracy Incorporated, which states that a community different of anything yet seen is indeed the possibility.

Here are some websites of those that are interested in the term Technocracy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocratic_movement

www.technocracy.org
www.technocracy.ca

For Life!

Black Dagger
16th October 2005, 08:23
Welcome to the board, Technocracy ay? We'll see ;)

Tekun
17th October 2005, 09:27
Originally posted by Black [email protected] 16 2005, 08:04 AM
Welcome to the board, Technocracy ay? We'll see ;)
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encephalon
18th October 2005, 14:25
I've a question concerning technocracy, regarding the abundance-based economic model. I find the system interesting, but some of the link are broken and it isn't fully explained. Where does manpower factor in to the energy credits? What if there is high demand for a specific commodity that is naturaly scarce--such as a diamond--does its energy cost go up as a result because it takes more energy to mine them? Also, wouldn't a technocratic government necessarily have to be a global state in order to effectively work (if nothing else, global trade might be awkward between a technocratic nation and a capitalist one..)?

It seems to me that energy credits are really just money without the added added expense of profit..e.g. a price that reflects the real value of a commodity; which is pretty much a goal of socialism. Is this an accurate assumption?

Dimentio
18th October 2005, 14:30
It seems to me that energy credits are really just money without the added added expense of profit..e.g. a price that reflects the real value of a commodity; which is pretty much a goal of socialism. Is this an accurate assumption?

Actually, the energy credits are very different from any kind of money. I could warmly recommend this article - http://www.technocracy.org/?p=/documents/b...5a02145ae58879d (http://www.technocracy.org/?p=/documents/briefs/b29&TC=217c92b97a7a117035a02145ae58879d)



I've a question concerning technocracy, regarding the abundance-based economic model. I find the system interesting, but some of the link are broken and it isn't fully explained. Where does manpower factor in to the energy credits? What if there is high demand for a specific commodity that is naturaly scarce--such as a diamond--does its energy cost go up as a result because it takes more energy to mine them? Also, wouldn't a technocratic government necessarily have to be a global state in order to effectively work (if nothing else, global trade might be awkward between a technocratic nation and a capitalist one..)?

Most necessary commodities could be produced in abundance, and the goal of technocracy is to abolish as much human labour as possible. Thus, the goal is a world where humanity is some kind of aristocracy and the absolute overwhelming majority of labour is conducted by automated machinery. Even though it may be an impossibility, we should at least strive towards that.

For scarce items, like artwork, there would be barter.

For resources that are abundant, but mostly outside of the technate, there would be barter-trade on macro-scale.

The Grey Blur
18th October 2005, 16:58
Originally posted by Tekun+Oct 17 2005, 09:11 AM--> (Tekun @ Oct 17 2005, 09:11 AM)
Black [email protected] 16 2005, 08:04 AM
Welcome to the board, Technocracy ay? We'll see ;)
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