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Comrade Hector
15th October 2005, 07:19
We're all aware about the events of Tiananmen Square in 1989. As far westerners are concerned it was just an example for them to demonize Communism. But was the West really horrified as the appeared to be? Any current documentary and book about the Tiananmen Square incident in the capitalist world depicted the tragedy as the people of China struggling for a U.S free market system in China ("Freedom" is the imperialist word). The protesters shown on CNN and other capitalist networks portrayed the protests as "pro-Democracy" i.e pro-West. Considering what was shown, why should it be questioned?

The is no doubt that there were protesters who felt that China should have western capitalism. But there were other protesters too. Protesters whose voices of protest didn't make it to CNN, and is still widely ignored to this day. The capitalist media neglected to mention that "the Internationale" was being sung again and again by workers and students in protest the the reforms of Deng Xiaoping that began the privatization of the gains from the Chinese Revolution, giving factories to foreign capitalists, and the rise of unemployment. Red flags and Mao portraits were seen carried by workers, students, and intellectuals who fought to keep the gains but oust the reformist element selling out the Chinese workers to the West. When the tanks came, the pro-west protesters who tried to take control of this anti-government revolution were supressed as were the workers and students protesting against the reforms.

Deng Xiaoping and his dogs began the capitalization of the People's Republic of China after Mao's death. He made an anti-Soviet alliance with the imperialists, and began to allow them to invest and establish their business in China, thereby putting the working-class under the boot of the bourgeois parasites. There was much maney to be made for the USA and its allies in their new friend. After the Tiananmen Square Massacre the United States made no steps to cancel the investments made their which Deng Xiaoping and co were profiting from. Bush Sr. organized no international boycott against China for the massacre, but only condemned it with words as did the British. Meanwhile American companies still continued to opperate in China, and still profiting as was the Chinese leadership, leeching of the labor of the workers. The only reason it was condemned is that the official label for China is "Communist". But had the workers achieved and gone back to the traditional system of Mao, the imperialists would once again lose their profits and investments. This is why the West took no real action.

This technique however, should have happened in Eastern Europe in 1989. It would've stopped the malignant US capitalist system from infecting and killing the workers.

For more information read this article China, 1989: The Days of Defiance (http://rwor.org/a/v21/1005-009/1009/tsq.htm)

Look at picture number 5 on this article. You will see that the portrait being waved by the students doesn't look much like Ronald Reagan.

Dhul Fiqar
15th October 2005, 20:56
I have a friend named Sung who was there, he fled the country afterwards and lived in Iceland for a while before going back. He told me no one he knew at that concert (an it basically was a rock concert) had any clear idea of what democracy was, let alone did they want to bring down the government to get it.

They were marching for improved living conditions and whatever reforms required to bring them - he said televisions and refrigerators were what people really wanted.

--- G.

Red Leader
18th October 2005, 21:37
I've been reading a lot about Chinese history for a politics project and from what ive read, the majority of the students actualy wanted socialism, it was the corruption of thier country and of the CCP that they were demonstrating against, for a more equal social democracy, like what was intended with the people's republic, against the corruption that Deng instilled that was worse then the Dynasty rule, not capitalist american style "democracy"

CrazyModerate
18th October 2005, 22:02
Most of the people striking were striking for real socialism, not the neo-fascist state capitalist brand used by China back then and being modified so that capitalists outside the country can also benefit.

Guerrilla22
20th October 2005, 05:02
Yeah, I love the way the US government and the state run media here spun that thing into something it wasn't.

CrazyModerate
20th October 2005, 23:32
And how is the US responing? Oh, yes, they reward the Chinese government and corporate elite by increasing free(yet, not fair) trade with China. They are simply doing Tiananmen square over and over again, but this time for profit.

Chuck
23rd October 2005, 04:46
Yes, well.

The United States loves its money. Blood is nothing if they can make a profit.

Freedom Works
23rd October 2005, 12:35
The United States loves its money. Blood is nothing if they can make a profit.

Comparing a State to Capitalism is idiotic.

visceroid
24th October 2005, 12:14
Originally posted by Freedom [email protected] 23 2005, 12:19 PM

The United States loves its money. Blood is nothing if they can make a profit.

Comparing a State to Capitalism is idiotic.
no one did

DisIllusion
26th October 2005, 06:17
True, the capitalist media is all trying to make it look like some squashed fight for democracy. At one point I actually believed it, until I dug deeper and found there was more to what was going on in the world than CNN. :lol:

Comrade Hector
15th November 2005, 07:38
Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 05:22 AM
True, the capitalist media is all trying to make it look like some squashed fight for democracy. At one point I actually believed it, until I dug deeper and found there was more to what was going on in the world than CNN. :lol:
Very true! I too believed it was an action against Socialism at one point, and I was supportive of the Chinese military action until I found the other side of the story.