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Viva Fidel
13th October 2005, 18:11
He is a socialist candidate for the Bolivian presidency. The popular vote looks good for him, but according to Bolivia's constitution he has to be voted in by 51% of the Congress. Election day is December 4th i believe.

Anyone for him? against him? know anything else about him or the Bolivian situation?

Matty_UK
13th October 2005, 19:37
I'm for him, and I reckon if he gets the popular vote but not the congress vote then he will get in away; the Bolivians have shown they take no shit, and if congress blocks him they'll get him in power by force.

bolshevik butcher
13th October 2005, 19:41
Well im for him. We should support him critically, he's a bit wishy washy, but so was chavez when he was elected.

Matty_UK
13th October 2005, 20:41
Originally posted by Clenched [email protected] 13 2005, 07:22 PM
Well im for him. We should support him critically, he's a bit wishy washy, but so was chavez when he was elected.
Wishy washy, but I'd rather wishy washy than a brutal dictator and it beats having an outright capitalist.

American_Trotskyist
14th October 2005, 07:18
Morales is the Kerinsky of Bolivia. He is a reformer, not a revolutionary. This is the man who told the striking people, the revolution in the streets of La Paz and else where to go home and let the politicans take care of it. He is no Chavez and sure as hell not a revolutionary.

Red Flag
14th October 2005, 11:40
No Eva Morales. Workers, peasants, and Indians power in Bolivia!

Bolivia: A Revolution Betrayed, Again (http://www.freepeoplesmovement.org/fp13e.html)

Matty_UK
14th October 2005, 21:44
Come on guys, be realistic. If you condemn every single left wing leader that doesn't fit a specific line of thought, all you're going to do is cause division and weaken the movement. The aim should primarily be defeating neoliberal policies imposed on Latin America, so poor people can actually live decent lives and the subcontinent can be free. Morales is an ally of Chavez over the US, and intends to begin some sort of reform for the better; the more this happens over Latin America, the more secure individual countries are and the further the revolution can be taken. If you aren't willing to support Evo Morales, then who do you think should get in? There isn't anyone better right now.

bolshevik butcher
14th October 2005, 22:32
Matty's right on that. We should support him critically. We should keep our own opinions, yet agree he is the best on offer jsut now. If he dails to deliver the bolivians wil probably overthrow him anywy. They dont seem to take any shit.

Tekun
17th October 2005, 10:50
Yep, mos definitely Matty

If we don't unite against capitalism, our movement will be fragmented and will eventually crumble

Im all for Morales, he's native Bolivian and believes firmly in socialist reforms
If he wins, we'll have 2 south american countries under socialist reforms
^With the US involved in Iraq and Afghanistan, therez no way they would be able to stop our movement

chebol
18th October 2005, 10:24
The problem with the history of the left in Bolivia (like much of the left in the West too) is a tendency to ultra-left sectarianism and over-the-top programism. No. Morales is not perfect. Can he be pushed? Yes. Is he the advocate of a text-book revolutionary strategy or program? No.
His problem is that he is not necessarily a revolutionary- but is willing, and able, to play that role if the masses force him to.
Very different to Kerensky.
Also, Bolivia has no "Lenin". Deal with it.

Tekun
19th October 2005, 11:45
The best Evo Morales quote I've heard:

None of the candidates of Bolivia's mainstream parties wanted to debate Morales, dismissing MAS as a "minor party"

Finally, Morales told the media that he wasn't interested in a public discussion with them either: "The one who I want to debate is Ambassador Rocha — I prefer to argue with the owner of the circus, not the clowns."

:lol: