The church: why r dey not showing d revolutionary

[cpjames_elsocialista]

Christ said that the rich should sell their riches and give it to the poor. He was crucified because he dared to change the system. why is the church not telling us to change the system that is so rotten already?

[rioters bloc]

partly because the church profits from the system, big time

[cpjames_elsocialista]

Do you know any book that focuses on the revolutionary work of Christ? somebody told me he saw one. the front cover was Jesus in half, one side holding a gun.

[Ian]

Sounds like a pretty crappy book. The followers have Jesus have been the most counter-revolutionary group for centuries

[Zingu]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2005, 08:14 AM
Christ said that the rich should sell their riches and give it to the poor. He was crucified because he dared to change the system. why is the church not telling us to change the system that is so rotten already?
Thats not revolutionary....thats reformist. Any 'Communism' would have been impossible back in that nuthead's time, since of the structure of class society.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Yeshua was a reforming Rabbi, not a revolutionary. He saw the Greek influences in the teachings of the Rabbis that lived in the big town, and resented that. In a way he was a Jewish fundamentalist.

[Bugalu Shrimp]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2005, 08:33 AM
Do you know any book that focuses on the revolutionary work of Christ? somebody told me he saw one. the front cover was Jesus in half, one side holding a gun.
Ah yes, you would be refferring to "Jesus - the guerilla years". As the title suggests this book focuses on the lesser known aspects of Jesus' illustrious career.
Most notably his brief hiatus from peaceful protest and the arming of the disciples who he took into deep Botswanian jungle to wage guerilla war against Hitlers Luftwaffe.

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by Bugalu [email protected] 17 2005, 05:13 PM
Most notably his brief hiatus from peaceful protest and the arming of the disciples who he took into deep Botswanian jungle to wage guerilla war against Hitlers Luftwaffe.
OMF I've never laughed so hard. Tell me thats a real book!

[Xvall]

Because Jesus was a *****.

[Ownthink]

That asshole's dead, and I'm glad.

[GiveITall]

Many Christian churches do not advocate change to the system because of their interpretation of the bible. There are many passages in the new testament that support the argument that Jesus was working towards radical social and political change. However many churches in western democracies choose not to see that interpretation of the bible rather picking out passages that support there own, often neo-liberal, worldview.

There is a revolutionary Christian ideology in Latin America called Liberation Theology. It advocates empowerment of the poor and criticises social, political and imperialist structures that help create and sustain poverty in many Latin American countries. If you would like to read about Liberation Theology I would suggest picking up a book written by Gustavo Gutierrez, he is an important contributor to this ideology

[Monty Cantsin]

Their’s a funny section of Godard’s 1967 film “weekend” in which someone say “As Marx’s said we’re all brothers” and then latter on this guy goes “it wasn’t Marx who said that is was some other communist. Jesus said it”.

You should look into liberation theology but also Marx’s ‘Introduction to A Contribution to the Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right’.

[TheReadMenace]

Read anything by John Dominic Crossan. Agree with him or not, he presents a pretty strong case against modern Christianity, and puts Jesus in different shoes, so to speak.


The followers have Jesus have been the most counter-revolutionary group for centuries.

The more recent ones, yes. But within the first hundred years or so, groups like the Jewish Zealots and the Sicarii were closely linked with Jesus' message. The Zealots constantly raided and destroyed Roman settlements in Judea, trying to force the Romans out. The Sicarii performed assassinations against Jewish leaders who sided with Rome and Roman officials.

There are quite a few books out there on the historical Jesus. Some of them suck, and some of them are amazing. You just have to look for them.

Andrew