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Krypto-Communist
10th October 2005, 21:42
I know I'm preaching to the choir here but didn't this Marine have a pretty naive concept of "bravery"? What exactly is so "brave" about taking direct orders to murder on behalf of your imperial government?

Oh well, another dumb, alpha-male dead: BOO-HOO.



Marine who inspired sister to enlist dies
Saturday, October 08, 2005

By Milan Simonich, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


John Beale, Post-Gazette

Lance Cpl. Patrick Kenny looked and acted like he belonged on a Marine Corps recruiting poster. So able and enthusiastic was Cpl. Kenny that he inspired his younger sister, Katy, to follow his example and join the Marines.

Katy Kenny, back home in Emsworth after completing 13 weeks of boot camp, learned yesterday that her hero was dead -- killed in a roadside bombing in Iraq.

Cpl. Kenny, 20, and three other Marines died Thursday when the explosion tore through their Humvee in Karmah, about 40 miles west of Baghdad.

Three Marines in green uniforms banged on the Kenny family's front door at 1:23 a.m. yesterday to break the news. Chuck Kenny said he knew as soon as he opened the door that his only son was dead.

"Now the family name won't go on. That's it," Chuck Kenny said yesterday afternoon between hugs with friends and family members who streamed into his home.

Katy Kenny, 19, had spent the week in Pittsburgh-area high schools, recruiting young women for the Marine Corps. But yesterday, she said, all she could think about was being brave for her father and her mother, Tricia. Cpl. Kenny would have expected that of her.

"I looked up to my brother," said Ms. Kenny, who became a Marine private after completing boot camp in Parris Island, S.C., on Sept. 23. "In high school, I became the water girl for the football team because he was a football player."

Cpl. Kenny started at tackle for three years at Avonworth High School, where flags flew at half staff yesterday in his honor. The team captain as a senior, he made a lasting impression by showing interest in players nobody else seemed to notice.


Tyler Frew, a freshman when Cpl. Kenny was a senior, said he broke down and cried behind the bleachers after his first grueling practice. In a two-page letter delivered yesterday to the Kenny family, Tyler remembered how Cpl. Kenny sought him out and reassured him, telling him the practice had not been so bad and that he could make it if he tried.

Tyler said he never forgot those words of encouragement, or the fact that the bruising 230-pound senior tackle had cared enough to worry about the feelings of a timid freshman.

"I'm a better person for meeting him," Tyler, now a senior wide receiver and the Avonworth team captain, said in an interview.

Avonworth football coach Jason Kekseo said Cpl. Kenny had the talent to play Division II or III college football but never seriously considered the idea.

"He was a tough kid, very strong, and he had a good work ethic," Coach Kekseo said. "But he was so committed to joining the military that I don't think he ever really thought about college."

Cpl. Kenny graduated from Avonworth High in 2003 but missed the commencement ceremony. School administrators handed him his diploma a few days early so he could leave for Marine boot camp as soon as he finished his last class. He was that gung-ho about becoming an infantryman in wartime.

Katy Kenny said her brother had a lifelong interest in military service. He read about the Civil War with a scholar's passion and loved GI Joe action figures. He became so obsessive about the military that he even wore GI Joe briefs, relatives said.

Cpl. Kenny was in his second tour in Iraq. The first brought him to the city of Fallujah, not far from the spot where he died. Though he worked in war zones where bombings and death are common, Cpl. Kenny told his family not to worry about him.

"He always told my mom he would come home and find a wife, and they would give her pretty grandchildren," Katy Kenny said. "That's all he really wanted."

Cpl. Kenny's body was still in Iraq yesterday, so funeral arrangements had not been made. In addition to his parents and Katy, he is survived by two other sisters, Molly, 21, and Maggie, 23.

Chuck Kenny said he supported both his son and daughter when they decided to join the Marines. But now, he said, he must insist that Katy serve her country some place besides a war zone.

"I told her she ain't goin' to Iraq," Mr. Kenny said.


Link to Story (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05281/584910.stm)

wet blanket
10th October 2005, 21:52
Chuck Kenny said he supported both his son and daughter when they decided to join the Marines. But now, he said, he must insist that Katy serve her country some place besides a war zone.

"I told her she ain't goin' to Iraq," Mr. Kenny said

:lol: ya ok buddy

Ownthink
10th October 2005, 22:12
Oh well. Good riddance, another murdering imperialist dead.



:) Good day, tis.

Commie Girl
10th October 2005, 23:49
1 more down, 149,999 to go!

Ownthink
10th October 2005, 23:59
Originally posted by Commie [email protected] 10 2005, 07:30 PM
1 more down, 149,999 to go!
Heh, was just thinking the same sentence!

Urban Guerrilla
11th October 2005, 00:23
Just like a good portion of the military females over there, they'll come back early due to being knocked up :che:

KC
11th October 2005, 00:49
That's just sad, for two reasons. First, that they died. Second, that they joined in the first place.

Che NJ
11th October 2005, 03:04
It's so sad that they are willing to die for a country that doesn't care about them. and worse that they are even more willing to murder thousands for that country.

Commandante_Ant
11th October 2005, 22:10
They are willing to die because they believe that it is a just war they are fighting, they really believe that Saddam was a threat to the US. Its been admitted time and time again that he didnt have WMD's, that he even if he had missiles, he was too far away to attack the US.

It is sad whenever a soldier dies in this "war" as it is unnecessary...however i dont want to tar every soldier with the same brush. Some US soldiers are barbaric animals, some are workers doing their jobs.

Orthodox Marxist
12th October 2005, 00:17
I say good riddance one more republican scum gone

Free Palestine
12th October 2005, 00:23
Originally posted by Commandante_Ant
They are willing to die because they believe that it is a just war they are fighting, they really believe that Saddam was a threat to the US.

So? Many German soldiers in World War II thought it was a just war they were fighting too. People aren't innocent because they possess a belief in their mission.

TC
12th October 2005, 00:31
It is sad whenever a soldier dies in this "war" as it is unnecessary...however i dont want to tar every soldier with the same brush. Some US soldiers are barbaric animals, some are workers doing their jobs.


I wouldn't paint every soldier with the same brush.

Some soldiers are fighting to defend their personal freedom, families, state and national dignity from an invader that murders civilians on the streets at will, bombs and occupies hospitals and schools, rapes and tortures 'detainees' most of whom are civilians, uses illigal firebomb on both military and urban civilian targets, assassinates journalists and kidnaps family members of civilian government officials, slaughters peaceful protesters, breaks into civilian homes to harrass and kidnap innocent people, imposes a persian style islamic law and complete privitization on what had been a secular, progressive country with gender equality and a state managed society that protected workers...

And some soldiers are those invaders.

Orthodox Marxist
12th October 2005, 00:40
I wouldn't paint every soldier with the same brush.

Screw them their all guilty they knew it was an illegal war from the start Comrade the fact that they allowed themselves to be brainwashed so easily only makes me feel less sympathy for them

KC
12th October 2005, 02:02
So? Many German soldiers in World War II thought it was a just war they were fighting too. People aren't innocent because they possess a belief in their mission.

They aren't innocent. But they aren't inherently bad. They're no less human than you.

Free Palestine
12th October 2005, 02:43
Nobody said they were inherently evil or not human. I just reminded you that those supposed "innocents" are voluntarily serving in an army of occupation and oppression, which engages in daily humiliations, indignities, and human rights abuses. They are from from innocent. So what if they're human? That doesn't absolve anyone. The German soldiers in World War II who cost tens of millions of lives, lead death camps and devastated the continent of Europe were also not inherently evil nor were they unhuman. What's your point?

TC
12th October 2005, 09:50
They aren't innocent. But they aren't inherently bad. They're no less human than you.


If they weren't human or they were somehow inherently bad, like a virus, then they wouldn't be responsible for there actions.

Its percisely because they are human and they choose to do horrible things that makes them as close to 'evil' as you can get without religion.

VietMinH
12th October 2005, 21:01
Many of the german soldiers in WWII weren't at all SS. Many Americans in the war aren't just cold blooded killers, they are just doing their jobs much like we back home do our jobs...

Noah
12th October 2005, 21:13
It's true I don't feel sorry for the Imperialist/Nationalist racist Americans who hate Iraqis. But some had to join the army in order to earn money and survive in this Capitalist society, the worst thing is I dont think Mr Bush gives a shite about the dying people in the Iraqi conflict.

Ownthink
12th October 2005, 21:19
I'm sick of hearing these same 2 arguments, and having to refute them.


Many of the german soldiers in WWII weren't at all SS. Many Americans in the war aren't just cold blooded killers, they are just doing their jobs much like we back home do our jobs...
Except our job doesn't include killing innocent people. I absolutely can't believe the stupidity of this statement.


It's true I don't feel sorry for the Imperialist/Nationalist racist Americans who hate Iraqis. But some had to join the army in order to earn money and survive in this Capitalist society, the worst thing is I dont think Mr Bush gives a shite about the dying people in the Iraqi conflict

Work at McDonalds or kill innocents for cash? I'll take the fast food work, thanks.

KC
12th October 2005, 22:11
Except our job doesn't include killing innocent people. I absolutely can't believe the stupidity of this statement.

You're correct in your assertion that they are guilty of their crimes. However, this doesn't mean that they are "scum", as Red Marxist Army has claimed. They are just people. The only difference between you and them are the ideas that you hold. The ideas are the problem; the belief that what they are doing is good. That is what is sick.

Noah
12th October 2005, 22:54
Work at McDonalds or kill innocents for cash? I'll take the fast food work, thanks.

It's not that easy to just 'go and work for a fast food store'.

And plus, Mcdonalds kills the environment which in time under capitalism, will kill us all.

I am in no way advocating the terrible things the army has done but how will you raise a family working at a fast food store? Some of the men are simply forced to join the army because they are poor and their parents/children/wives need someone to depend on, not all of them join the army to kill people.

But I see where you are coming from comrade, it's not a good situation.

Morpheus
13th October 2005, 00:41
Some of the men are simply forced to join the army because they are poor and their parents/children/wives need someone to depend on, not all of them join the army to kill people.

Some people join the mafia for the same reason. Any worker who finds himself in an armed force has the duty to desert or otherwise rebel when ordered to do unethical things like take part in an imperialist invasion. If you don't your'e a class traitor and a legitimate target by resistance forces. It is not okay to murder fellow workers just to support your family. Those who do are no different from mafia hitmen.

Ownthink
13th October 2005, 01:10
Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2005, 08:22 PM

Some of the men are simply forced to join the army because they are poor and their parents/children/wives need someone to depend on, not all of them join the army to kill people.

Some people join the mafia for the same reason. Any worker who finds himself in an armed force has the duty to desert or otherwise rebel when ordered to do unethical things like take part in an imperialist invasion. If you don't your'e a class traitor and a legitimate target by resistance forces. It is not okay to murder fellow workers just to support your family. Those who do are no different from mafia hitmen.
Actually, that was a pretty good comparison. Nice, Comrade.

Xvall
13th October 2005, 01:51
I agree.

TC
13th October 2005, 09:16
Actually i think mafia hitmen are morally superior to imperialist soldiers because hitmen (for the most part) only kill other mafiosos not innocent members of the general public, and they don't kill many...whereas imperialist soldiers kill innocent civilians on a mass scale. I don't think mafia hitmen have ever just started shooting scores of innocent people the way American soldiers in Iraqi 'free fire' zones like Fallujah during the seiges did...nor do i think they commonly abduct their victims hold them in captivity for long periods of time and torture their with perverted sexual humiliation and physical abuse. And how many children have been killed by mafia hitmen, probably in the single digits, compared to the number killed by American soldiers, probably tens of thousands.

In these regards, American soldiers are less like mafia hitmen and more like serial killers.

Xvall
13th October 2005, 22:43
That is a good point. Mafia hitmen also have a tendancy to dress better.

Free Palestine
13th October 2005, 23:55
U.S. soldiers may just as well start wearing the company logos of Chevron-Texaco and Exxon-Mobil on their uniforms in place of the US flag because this is who they really are fighting for, as well as the weapons manufacturers and companies like Halliburton and Bechtel.

Ownthink
14th October 2005, 02:05
Originally posted by Free [email protected] 13 2005, 07:36 PM
U.S. soldiers may just as well start wearing the company logos of Chevron-Texaco and Exxon-Mobil on their uniforms in place of the US flag because this is who they really are fighting for, as well as the weapons manufacturers and companies like Halliburton and Bechtel.
Agreed.

On another note, there is a very large corporation/facotry type building in Detroit here, it has a large Abrams tank as it's trademark and it says "Defense [and something else]" underneath it. I believe they manufacture weapons. Bastards.

Krypto-Communist
16th October 2005, 00:43
Some of the men are simply forced to join the army because they are poor and their parents/children/wives need someone to depend on, not all of them join the army to kill people.

Fuck em', let them starve and die....won't bother me. One less asshole male to worry about and odds are his kids will be assholes as well. Let the guy starve, and have the government subsidize the stay-at home mom. Problem solved.


Knowing that corporations, militaries, and governments have enormous power in the world, I've come to the conclusion that there is no God.

Seriously, how can people believe in a "supreme divine being who embodies all that is good and well" while these particular institutions exist? Did God fuck up or did man?

Urban Guerrilla
16th October 2005, 00:53
Originally posted by Krypto-[email protected] 16 2005, 12:24 AM
Did God fuck up or did man?
Some will argue that it was God that gave man "free will" and that is what went wrong from there :che:

Tekun
17th October 2005, 10:30
Its ridiculous how easy these simpletons are brainwashed by America

Oh well, they're looking for it
They know invading a country is wrong
Iraqi's are doing what any other person might do if they're invaded, rebel against the usurpers

They're imperialistic agents oppressing the ppl through military force
They deserve whatever the Iraqis do to them
Iraqis fight for sovereignty, US soldiers fight for imperialism

Xvall
18th October 2005, 01:26
Originally posted by Urban Guerilla+Oct 16 2005, 12:37 AM--> (Urban Guerilla @ Oct 16 2005, 12:37 AM)
Krypto-[email protected] 16 2005, 12:24 AM
Did God fuck up or did man?
Some will argue that it was God that gave man "free will" and that is what went wrong from there :che: [/b]
"Free Will" is a joke.