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Hegemonicretribution
6th October 2005, 17:02
I am looking for arguments that refute as much as possible, Satre's role in existentialism. I was looking to do this from his use of the cogito, rather than the almost blank slate style arguments against human nature.

I was looking towards Kant, or possibly Russell on limitations of philosophy, can anyone recommend good, relevant reading?

TC
7th October 2005, 19:50
What do you mean refute Sartre role in existentialism...you mean refute Sartre's positions or what? What specifically do you want to argue...


I don't think Kant has anything relevant...keep in mind that Sartre read Kant and Kant hadn't read Sartre...way older work.

Bertrand Russell and Jean-Paul Sartre worked in totally different philosophical traditions (the Anglo-American and Continental respectively)...i don't think their views can be seen as in direct competition with each other. Russel and Sartre were both New Left Marxists who participated in the anti-vietnam war movement in Europe.

And in any case, Sartre was brilliant, read Being and Nothingness.

The Feral Underclass
7th October 2005, 20:43
Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2005, 08:31 PM
And in any case, Sartre was brilliant
But not as brilliant as Albert Camus.

Monty Cantsin
7th October 2005, 22:47
Originally posted by The Anarchist Tension+Oct 7 2005, 08:24 PM--> (The Anarchist Tension @ Oct 7 2005, 08:24 PM)
[email protected] 7 2005, 08:31 PM
And in any case, Sartre was brilliant
But not as brilliant as Albert Camus. [/b]
lol.

Hegemonicretribution
8th October 2005, 14:37
Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2005, 07:31 PM
What do you mean refute Sartre role in existentialism...you mean refute Sartre's positions or what? What specifically do you want to argue...


I don't think Kant has anything relevant...keep in mind that Sartre read Kant and Kant hadn't read Sartre...way older work.

Bertrand Russell and Jean-Paul Sartre worked in totally different philosophical traditions (the Anglo-American and Continental respectively)...i don't think their views can be seen as in direct competition with each other. Russel and Sartre were both New Left Marxists who participated in the anti-vietnam war movement in Europe.

And in any case, Sartre was brilliant, read Being and Nothingness.
Sorry I wasn't very clear about what I meant. I am doing a very limited piece criticising Satre. As much as I would prefer dealing with later Satre, or a more definite work such as Being and Nothingness, I am confined to talk about him with relation to Existentialism and Humanism only. This is an introductory college piece, and that does not give me a lot of scope.

I have to argue against Satre either in terms of his Stance on Goad, human nature or the cogito. I chose the latter.

I realise that Kant could not of read Satre, and Satre did read Kant, it is for this reason I thought it would be interesting to see if their was a specific area of Kantian philosophy I could utilise. I want to create an original piece.

Russell I kind of knew where I wanted to go with, but that is second choice. Basically I have an idea of what to do, but am just looking for a specific piece of text to work with.