French Guiana

[Reds]

French Guiana is the last colony of Europe in the americas does anyone know of an anti colonial movement there.

[Regicidal Insomniac]

There is the French Guiana Liberation Movement and Tam-Tam Front for the Liberation of Guiana. However, it isn't the only European colony left in the Americas; the Netherlands, France, and the UK still hold several islands in the Carribean. For future reference, check this page here to find out about autonomist movements around the world: Wikipedia Reference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_autonomist_and_secessionist_movemen ts)

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

It's not the last colony of Europe in the Americas.

Falkland Islands, Montserrat, Guadeloupe, Turks & Caicos Islands, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Bermuda, Anguilla, Martinique, St Martiin.

[Tupac-Amaru]

Who cares if they are still colonized!!! It suits them to be under the control of the Dutch, British, French, etc....those islands have no industry...no way of prospering on their own. The native people arent being mistreated...they have some degree of autonomy....SO WHO CARES!!

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Me, the colonized people, communists and freedom fighters everwhere.

[fernando]

they might care, but the local population does not seek independence, they still want to remain part of the country they "belong" to. After Surinam for example received their independence a very great number of the local population fled to The Netherlands. Currently the Nederlandse Antillen want to remain part of Holland and not seek to obtain independence, why? Because if they did reach independence they would be too poor and too weak to sustain themselves.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

I don't want to get into this argument right now, but it is the right of all colonized people to struggle for independence - and this is a fight communists fully back.

You can't use the colonized mind frame of a large chunk of the population or the fact that the imperialist dominated world isn't friendly to small colonies that seek independence as an argument against it. Otherwise, you'd have to reject the fight for Puerto Rican independence as well.

Most people think they "need" capitalism. Do they?

Besides, Grenada has shown that a small country can break away from colonialism and neocolonialism and surpass other small colonized countries in all social measures.

[ComradeOm]

Remember that these colonies (or at least the French ones) are classed as EU members with all the trade benefits that that entails. So the pro-colonial groups on those islands/colonies can claim that they'd suffer terribly if the European connection was cut. It may be bullshit but preying on people's fears is a proven tactic.

If these people are struggling for independence then I give them my full support. Self determination is the right of all peoples. But I doubt any European colonial power is going to crack down hard on such a movement. Why go to the effort of forcefully maintaining a troublesome colony when you can make economic slaves of them?

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

I'm not familiar enough with most of the colonies in the Americas, but I do know for a fact that there is a very strong independence movement brewing on one of the U.S. Virgin Islands.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Why go to the effort of forcefully maintaining a troublesome colony when you can make economic slaves of them?

Right on.

"Protests by those calling for more autonmy from France have become increasingly vocal. Protests in 1996, 1997 and 2000 all ended in violence. While many Guianese wish to see more autonomy, support for complete independence is very low due to large economic support from France. Many are angry at the lack of oppurtunities and high unemployment figures."

[Tupac-Amaru]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2005, 02:07 PM


If these people are struggling for independence then I give them my full support.
So do I.

BUT that is not the case in most of the Carribean colonies. Most people there are perfectly happy cose they get subsidies and other forms of support from the mother country.

And remember that its not the 17th century anymore...so the natives arent being brutalized and put into slavery...quite the opposite.

Therefore, it would be stupid for Aruba, to claim independence for the Netherlands because most of its money would be gone...

However, if the local people do feel they are being exploited and oppressed then by all means they should revolt. But that's not the case the in the Carribean colonies....so once again: WHO CARES!

[Sabocat]

Originally posted by Tupac-Amaru+Oct 21 2005, 04:14 PM--> (Tupac-Amaru @ Oct 21 2005, 04:14 PM)
[email protected] 20 2005, 02:07 PM


If these people are struggling for independence then I give them my full support.
So do I.

BUT that is not the case in most of the Carribean colonies. Most people there are perfectly happy cose they get subsidies and other forms of support from the mother country.

And remember that its not the 17th century anymore...so the natives arent being brutalized and put into slavery...quite the opposite.

Therefore, it would be stupid for Aruba, to claim independence for the Netherlands because most of its money would be gone...

However, if the local people do feel they are being exploited and oppressed then by all means they should revolt. But that's not the case the in the Carribean colonies....so once again: WHO CARES! [/b]
They get subsidies because most of the income from the multitudes of tourists goes back to the foreign companies that own the resorts.

If for example the islanders of Aruba were to get independence, than I'm reasonably sure that the tourism trade would be sufficient if it were nationalized.

The islanders themselves are a hyper exploited class of workers. They get paid relatively little in comparison to the owners and bosses. Most work 2 or 3 or more jobs just to survive. On top of that, they are treated poorly by most of the non indigenous population.