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Shiva Star

1st October 2005, 01:36

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 12:29 AM
[COLOR=red][FONT=Impact] Shiva Star, just wondering, why do u detest capitalism so? Is it the economic system it's self, or do u find it confining?
I hate capitalism because it has killed billions of people, encourages prostitution, alcoholism, drug addiction and pornography, pushes "Gun Control", creates a social situation where rich white boys in BMWs exploit workers in China and India not to mention it creates monoculture (Ironically, they accuse us of the same thing).

EDIT: Yes, I do find capitalist culture confining.

Tekun

1st October 2005, 02:29

Greetings brotherz

Le People

1st October 2005, 03:19

Shiva, I am wondering, is Osama Bin Laden considered right or left? I have no fucking clue.

Tekun

1st October 2005, 03:57

Originally posted by Le [email protected] 1 2005, 02:50 AM
Shiva, I am wondering, is Osama Bin Laden considered right or left? I have no fucking clue.
Just a noob, but IMO, Bin Laden is an extension of Bush
Both are religious zealots who impose their dogma upon the people
^And thats just scratching the surface

Shiva Star

1st October 2005, 04:37

Originally posted by Le [email protected] 1 2005, 02:50 AM
Shiva, I am wondering, is Osama Bin Laden considered right or left? I have no fucking clue.
I don't know, but whatever his leanings (Probably right-wing, like most islamists), he is one thing to me: Reactionary

rioters bloc

1st October 2005, 07:22

yo yo

i'm muslim too ;)

i dunno whether bin laden's right or left, but he seems fascist to me. like all islamists.

Palmares

1st October 2005, 07:45

Bin Laden is comparable to zionists (afterall, the first modern terrorists were zionists in the 50's).

He is a fundamentalist religious zealot who calls for an anti-imperialist (which is not neccessarily left-wing, e.g. nationalist movements) war against the West in order to create a Muslim state (or empire?), in accordance with Sharia law.

Irrespective of even his religious beliefs (of the Wahabi variety), he is most definitely ring-wing.

Lord Testicles

1st October 2005, 09:35

alcoholism, drug addiction and pornography,

Whats wrong with drugs, alchohol and pornoghraphy?

Shiva Star

1st October 2005, 15:58

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 09:06 AM

alcoholism, drug addiction and pornography,

Whats wrong with drugs, alchohol and pornoghraphy?
What have pornography, drugs and alcohol contributed to civilisation? Absolutly nothing. Let me tell you something about pornography,most of the women you see on it are Sex Slaves from Eastern Europe or Latin America. Not to mention its just plain stupid shit. Alcohol and drugs produce nothing but pain and suffering.

slim

1st October 2005, 17:10

Rioters Bloc,

How can you truly say that all Islamists are fascists? Thats a bit of a bold statement if you ask me. It has no real backing and sounds like something Bush would say. Its like someone saying all communists are authoritarian which is utter bull but history remembers it. In fact the early arab states in the 8th century were built on a creed of freedom and peace. Those of Islamic faith were even banned from fighting in the army on religious grounds. Tell me what you know of Islam if you know so much as to judge one billion people as fascists.

Cthenthar,

The first modern "terrorists" were the IRA in 1918.

Shiva Star,

Alcohol in moderation is actually good for your body as it cleans out the kidneys in lay man terms. Nor is alcohol a product of capitalism, in some part of eastern europe they had communal vineyards for wine at christmas time.

As for drugs, ever heard of the Beatles? Why do you think they could keep up the fast tour rate?

Shiva Star

1st October 2005, 17:49

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 04:41 PM
Rioters Bloc,

How can you truly say that all Islamists are fascists? Thats a bit of a bold statement if you ask me. It has no real backing and sounds like something Bush would say. Its like someone saying all communists are authoritarian which is utter bull but history remembers it. In fact the early arab states in the 8th century were built on a creed of freedom and peace. Those of Islamic faith were even banned from fighting in the army on religious grounds. Tell me what you know of Islam if you know so much as to judge one billion people as fascists.

Let me tell you the difference between Islamists and Muslims. Islamists are Theocrats, they belive that Religion should influence and even take control of the government. Muslims belive in Islam, they can be Fascists, Social-Democrats,Commumists, etc.

Shiva Star,

Alcohol in moderation is actually good for your body as it cleans out the kidneys in lay man terms. Nor is alcohol a product of capitalism, in some part of eastern europe they had communal vineyards for wine at christmas time.

As for drugs, ever heard of the Beatles? Why do you think they could keep up the fast tour rate?

The horrors of drugs and alcohol outweigh the benefits.

ÑóẊîöŉ

1st October 2005, 19:48

What have pornography, drugs and alcohol contributed to civilisation? Absolutly nothing.

Wrong actually. They have given pleasure to millions.

Let me tell you something about pornography,most of the women you see on it are Sex Slaves from Eastern Europe or Latin America.

What, even in drawings and stories? :wacko: and if they are from east europe or latin america, I must say they fake their accents well.

Not to mention its just plain stupid shit.

Well that's your opinion. Does your mother add bromide to your tea?

Alcohol and drugs produce nothing but pain and suffering.

Do I look like I'm in pain to you?

bunk

1st October 2005, 20:15

Do I look like I'm in pain to you?

can't see, it's a possibility :o

Lord Testicles

1st October 2005, 22:19

Originally posted by Shiva [email protected] 1 2005, 03:29 PM
Alcohol and drugs produce nothing but pain and suffering.
Alcohol and drugs make peoples boring lifes more to interesting if anything drugs have made me less hot headed, more calm, more liberal and has enlightened my life i myself have never seen someone who has messed up their lifes because of drugs let alone seen them in pain or suffering.

Tekun

1st October 2005, 22:26

So so right Shiva! :)
The negatives of alcohol and drugs far outweigh the benefits or pleasure
Ever heard of alcoholism, spousal abuse, homelessness?

In addition, drugs cause much of the pain and suffering in the world (not to mention in the ghetto/barrio)

But its up to every person to decide for themselves
As far as Im concerned, I don't touch that poison

ÑóẊîöŉ

1st October 2005, 23:59

So so right Shiva! smile.gif
The negatives of alcohol and drugs far outweigh the benefits or pleasure
Ever heard of alcoholism, spousal abuse, homelessness?

Alcoholism is not responsible use of alcohol any more than speeding is responsible use of a motor vehicle.
Alcoholism is also a symptom of spousal abuse, not a cause.
Homelessness is caused by many factors apart from alcohol abuse, and I fail to see how responsible drinking will lead to homelessness

Most people are not alcoholics anyway.

In addition, drugs cause much of the pain and suffering in the world (not to mention in the ghetto/barrio)

Really? or is it the social and legal consquences of drug use that cause suffering?
When someone is brutalised by the police for having marijuana on their person, was it the marijuana that caused it or the stupid laws we have now?

Organic Revolution

2nd October 2005, 00:49

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 03:50 PM
i myself have never seen someone who has messed up their lifes because of drugs let alone seen them in pain or suffering.
i have. i have had 4 freinds die and countless put in jail or sent away because of drugs.

ÑóẊîöŉ

2nd October 2005, 01:36

i have. i have had 4 freinds die and countless put in jail or sent away because of drugs.

This illustrates my point about how the war on drugs is more harmful than the drugs themselves.

rioters bloc

2nd October 2005, 01:43

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2005, 02:41 AM
Rioters Bloc,

How can you truly say that all Islamists are fascists? Thats a bit of a bold statement if you ask me. It has no real backing and sounds like something Bush would say. Its like someone saying all communists are authoritarian which is utter bull but history remembers it. In fact the early arab states in the 8th century were built on a creed of freedom and peace. Those of Islamic faith were even banned from fighting in the army on religious grounds. Tell me what you know of Islam if you know so much as to judge one billion people as fascists.
slim,

not all muslims are islamists. i happen to be one of the one billion muslims in the world. i am in no way an islamist. an islamist is someone who wants to establish an islamic, theocratic world government. they want states to run under shariah law, which i disagree with on so many different levels. islamists promote the torture and execution of homosexuals, many support the oppression of women by misinterpreting the qu'ran, and a bunch of other things which severely limit the freedoms of individuals. this is exactly what fascism is. it is authoritarian. is is not just an issue i have with islamists, but anyone who wants to or does establish a theocracy, no matter what religion it may be.

and also, i know plenty about islam. i have grown up surrounded in it. i have read the qu'ran both in arabic and english [i learnt arabic just to read it]. i've read hadith. i've read numerous texts on it written by both muslims and non-muslims. and i've written critiques on it in respect to women.

i think you may just have misunderstood me - an islamist is not someone who believes in islam, but believes in forcing it upon the entire world.

Organic Revolution

2nd October 2005, 01:57

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 07:07 PM

i have. i have had 4 freinds die and countless put in jail or sent away because of drugs.

This illustrates my point about how the war on drugs is more harmful than the drugs themselves.
the war on drugs is going so well... i cant even by drugs any more.... :unsure:

rioters bloc

2nd October 2005, 02:13

ahhh just noticed that shiva already replied to slim

but yeah, three of my friends have died due to drug overdoses in the past year. one was only 15 years old. not that any age is a good age to die [unless you want to], but fuck dude.

i don't drink, but i don't look down on people who do, nor would i try and stop any of my friends from drinking. i've smoked pot but done no other drugs, just out of personal choice. if other people want to, i say go for it, but fucking be careful. the criminalisation of drug use and the following stigmatisation of drug users makes it a lot more dangerous.

Palmares

2nd October 2005, 02:36

In regards to drugs, I agree with NoXion - the legal ramifications.

But to add to that, the effect drugs have on people really depends on their knowledge about the drug and how responsibly they take it. Most bad effects are a result of them not knowing enough about the drug and not using it responsibly.

For example, in Australia there has been an ad campaign depicting the ill effects of certain drugs. One I will make the point of is the ad about ectasy, which shows two things, someone at the dentist being told their teeth have been grinded back and someone in a nightclub ODed.

For one, the teeth grinding thing is a given, and someone who knows anything about the drug would either have the drug in moderation (actually, everyone should stick by this), or have something like bubblegum to prevent the grinding. And in relation to the ODing in the nightclub, that has to do with the fact that ectasy dehydrates you, so it is important to either drink alot of water, or simply not to do too much dancing (or whatever other activity you get upto).

Essentially, drugs are poisons to your body, and that is why they give the "interesting" feeling they do. Indeed they alter one's experience of existence, but one should be cautious.

rioters bloc

2nd October 2005, 02:54

i found those ads pretty funny for some reason. particularly the pot one.

really off topic [but then this whole thread is!] but woah i totally didn't recognise you with your hair tied back cthenthar :P

Palmares

2nd October 2005, 03:08

Yeah, I rarely do it. Thought I might look a bit cleaner for court. But I didn't even bother wearing a suit.

And most annoying, when I was in court I didn't even need to present myself as the defendant. Hell, I almost didn't even need to be there!

rioters bloc

2nd October 2005, 03:16

yeah, that's what i thought.. i was a bit surprised to see you cos i thought that your lawyer could represent you and stuff and you only needed to be there if you needed to provide a witness statement or whatever.. and since it was only the first hearing i figured they wouldn't need you at all.

i went looking for footage from forbes with michael h the other day, we got a video but i haven't seen any of it yet.

enigma2517

2nd October 2005, 04:17

Capitalism hurts people way more than the drug does.

As long as a person doesn't intrude on others' freedoms (which legalized drug use would almost exclusively prevent) then its not an issue.

A lot of people think abortion is wrong. It still doesn't give them a right to dictate and coercively enforce their morals on others.

Drugs, alcohol and pornography all give humans the ability to release bottled up feelings. No, you shouldn't sit home and smoke pot all day, there are other many beautiful things to do out there in the world. But...likewise one of those things happens to be pot.

People will do what you tell them not to. Its almost an automatic reaction. Instead of teaching our children that drugs are the devil and that we should stay away from them, we can provide them with the facts, that drugs are a part of reality just like everything else and that they exist for a REASON. Its an escape

And whats so bad about that really? You go on vacation to escape work (work doesn't have to be a bad thing but nobody wants to work 24/7). You ride your bike to escape boredom. The problem is that people who don't realize this and just blindly walk into drugs are more likely to get "addicted".

I say that in quotes because its largely subjective/emotional. Yes, some drugs have physical dependencies, some do not. But the emotional link is sometimes just as strong.

Not only should we not ban drugs/alcohol/pornography (escapes), we CAN'T. It's impossible. Nobody in a communist society will want to go around a bust people for growing dope! And if they didn't, they sure as hell couldn't find it all!

Our job is to educate people about drugs and how to use them properly, if at all. We need to socialize drug use, only then can its potentially devestating side effects subside.

Shiva Star

2nd October 2005, 04:22

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2005, 03:48 AM
Capitalism hurts people way more than the drug does.

As long as a person doesn't intrude on others' freedoms (which legalized drug use would almost exclusively prevent) then its not an issue.

A lot of people think abortion is wrong. It still doesn't give them a right to dictate and coercively enforce their morals on others.

Drugs, alcohol and pornography all give humans the ability to release bottled up feelings. No, you shouldn't sit home and smoke pot all day, there are other many beautiful things to do out there in the world. But...likewise one of those things happens to be pot.

People will do what you tell them not to. Its almost an automatic reaction. Instead of teaching our children that drugs are the devil and that we should stay away from them, we can provide them with the facts, that drugs are a part of reality just like everything else and that they exist for a REASON. Its an escape

And whats so bad about that really? You go on vacation to escape work (work doesn't have to be a bad thing but nobody wants to work 24/7). You ride your bike to escape boredom. The problem is that people who don't realize this and just blindly walk into drugs are more likely to get "addicted".

I say that in quotes because its largely subjective/emotional. Yes, some drugs have physical dependencies, some do not. But the emotional link is sometimes just as strong.

Not only should we not ban drugs/alcohol/pornography (escapes), we CAN'T. It's impossible. Nobody in a communist society will want to go around a bust people for growing dope! And if they didn't, they sure as hell couldn't find it all!

Our job is to educate people about drugs and how to use them properly, if at all. We need to socialize drug use, only then can its potentially devestating side effects subside.
Ah, I see where you're getting at. Anyway, I concede that Pr0n and Drugs have some benefits.

ÑóẊîöŉ

2nd October 2005, 05:01

Originally posted by Shiva [email protected] 2 2005, 03:53 AM
Ah, I see where you're getting at. Anyway, I concede that Pr0n and Drugs have some benefits.
However, nobody's forcing you to do them :)

Amusing Scrotum

2nd October 2005, 18:30

But to add to that, the effect drugs have on people really depends on their knowledge about the drug and how responsibly they take it. Most bad effects are a result of them not knowing enough about the drug and not using it responsibly.

For example, in Australia there has been an ad campaign depicting the ill effects of certain drugs. One I will make the point of is the ad about ectasy, which shows two things, someone at the dentist being told their teeth have been grinded back and someone in a nightclub ODed.

For one, the teeth grinding thing is a given, and someone who knows anything about the drug would either have the drug in moderation (actually, everyone should stick by this), or have something like bubblegum to prevent the grinding. And in relation to the ODing in the nightclub, that has to do with the fact that ectasy dehydrates you, so it is important to either drink alot of water, or simply not to do too much dancing (or whatever other activity you get upto).

Quoted for truth. :lol:

Seriously though, the perception people have of some drugs, Ecstasy especially, is based on ignorance. As Cthenthar rightly pointed out, if you have chewing gum when you grind your teeth, the negative effects on your teeth are stopped and as long as you keep your body hydrated, there is little chance you will OD. That is of course dependant on the fact you are not being an idiot and trying to show off by taking handfuls of pills.

Basically, good drug education would solve problems of drug misuse. Its like sex education. Places where teenagers have good sex education, have low teenage pregnancy rates. Compared to places where all they say is that "sex is bad and abstinence is good", the teenage pregnancy rates are very high.

FleasTheLemur

2nd October 2005, 19:59

I hate to come out here and look like an arse, but the nature of drugs, alcohol and to some extent, pornography is holding the working class back to keep them from revoluting against the powers that be. There's a reason one can easily link alcohol and drug usage to poverty; It takes the sting out of something he or she has yet to understand.

...and this addictive behavior doesn't stop at booze and bongs. The D&D player spends his days dreaming of an alternate world, the sports fan who becomes absorbed in his passtime, the obese woman who can only find happiness inside of her refrigerator, the gamer spending his nights accoplishing things he could not do otherwise, the furry who is so disgusted with humanity she spends her time drooling over anything anthropomorphized---everyone of either intelligence and/or poverty seems to be escapists trapped by their addictions and unable to surpass them and develop a sense that it's not totally their fault. It's primarily the fault of the capitalist..

Am I totally against these things? No. If I spent all my time raging against the machine, I'd probably die from high blood pressure. However, we cannot take these addictions in such a casual nature or we'll soon become them. Our job is to enlighten the masses so that they may liberate themselves, not to become one of the masses by popping pills in a dimly lit factory.

------

And welcome to the board, Shiva! It's good to some muslims on this board. Excuse me for judging, but are you from the Middle East..? I'm curious.

Lord Testicles

2nd October 2005, 20:06

I hate to come out here and look like an arse, but the nature of drugs, alcohol and to some extent, pornography is holding the working class back to keep them from revoluting against the powers that be. There's a reason one can easily link alcohol and drug usage to poverty; It takes the sting out of something he or she has yet to understand.

...and this addictive behavior doesn't stop at booze and bongs. The D&D player spends his days dreaming of an alternate world, the sports fan who becomes absorbed in his passtime, the obese woman who can only find happiness inside of her refrigerator, the gamer spending his nights accoplishing things he could not do otherwise, the furry who is so disgusted with humanity she spends her time drooling over anything anthropomorphized---everyone of either intelligence and/or poverty seems to be escapists trapped by their addictions and unable to surpass them and develop a sense that it's not totally their fault. It's primarily the fault of the capitalist..

Am I totally against these things? No. If I spent all my time raging against the machine, I'd probably die from high blood pressure. However, we cannot take these addictions in such a casual nature or we'll soon become them. Our job is to enlighten the masses so that they may liberate themselves, not to become one of the masses by popping pills in a dimly lit factory.

I think most of us who do drink and take drugs know that The Man wants us a bit pissed and a bit stoned.

Amusing Scrotum

2nd October 2005, 20:46

FleasTheLemur, you made a good argument against the use of substances. However, I would suggest you think about probably the most revolutionary decade of the last century. The 60's. There you had a whole generation getting stoned and fighting the man. The 60's could never have been so politically motivated had it not been for the stoners.

Also this comment -

Our job is to enlighten the masses so that they may liberate themselves, not to become one of the masses by popping pills in a dimly lit factory.

I find somewhat annoying. It implies we are above the masses in some way. We are part of the masses and if we cannot relate with our comrades. We end up dictating to them. Which is not what I believe Communism is about.

Also, this thread has been somewhat derailed, maybe a mod could move it to another forum?

Tekun

2nd October 2005, 23:21

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 11:30 PM
Alcoholism is not responsible use of alcohol any more than speeding is responsible use of a motor vehicle.
Alcoholism is also a symptom of spousal abuse, not a cause.
Homelessness is caused by many factors apart from alcohol abuse, and I fail to see how responsible drinking will lead to homelessness

Most people are not alcoholics anyway.

Really? or is it the social and legal consquences of drug use that cause suffering?
When someone is brutalised by the police for having marijuana on their person, was it the marijuana that caused it or the stupid laws we have now?
Exactly, alcoholism is not responsible use of alcohol; but alcohol abuse has far more severe consequences than speeding
In theory, alcoholism is a symptom of spousal abuse
But reality has shown me that many times alcohol directly causes spousal abuse
When a man drinks to an excess and as a result he beats up his wife bkuz she told him to cut down on the drinking.....drinking = spousal abuse

One of main cause of homelessness is drinking, ask any homelesss
I'd say about half of those on livin on the streets will tell ya that drinking led them to a life of vagrancy
I see it all the time in Los Angeles, I always see them with a bottle and whatnot...
Their drinking alienated them from their family and responsibilites, which as a result put them out on the street
Now, responsible drinking is okay if its in moderation
But, what Im talking about is irresponsible drinking

As far as Im concerned; if u gotta drink at every party that you go to, then ur an alcoholic...IMO

Legal consequences of druge use causes suffering; but I don't think that crack/meth heads or crack/meth babies would agree with u
Its easy to say somethin in theory, but reality is different
Those who use crack, meth, or acid and don't get caught by the authorities live in a world of pain and suffering as a result of the drug
They're slaves heading directly to their grave

Police brutality is will occur whether u have drugs or not
Police brutality is based more on race then anything else

ÑóẊîöŉ

3rd October 2005, 05:24

Exactly, alcoholism is not responsible use of alcohol; but alcohol abuse has far more severe consequences than speeding

It's possible to recover from alcohol addiction... However it's not possible to recover from death and paralysis, which is the usual consequence of speeding.

In theory, alcoholism is a symptom of spousal abuse
But reality has shown me that many times alcohol directly causes spousal abuse
When a man drinks to an excess and as a result he beats up his wife bkuz she told him to cut down on the drinking.....drinking = spousal abuse

If a man beats his wife because he was told by her to stop drinking, there's already a problem and drink is not to blame. Although drink doesn't help.

As far as Im concerned; if u gotta drink at every party that you go to, then ur an alcoholic...IMO

In that case I'm an alcoholic.

Legal consequences of druge use causes suffering; but I don't think that crack/meth heads or crack/meth babies would agree with u
Its easy to say somethin in theory, but reality is different
Those who use crack, meth, or acid and don't get caught by the authorities live in a world of pain and suffering as a result of the drug
They're slaves heading directly to their grave

Drinking during pregnancy can also cause complications. But thanks to education, the majority of pregnant women don't drink during pregnancy.
In what way does acid, meth and crack cause suffering for the user?

And for FlesTheLemur...

Our job is to enlighten the masses so that they may liberate themselves, not to become one of the masses by popping pills in a dimly lit factory.

Why do people continually confuse recreational drugs with medicinal antidepressants?

Palmares

3rd October 2005, 07:01

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 05:30 AM
I hate to come out here and look like an arse, but the nature of drugs, alcohol and to some extent, pornography is holding the working class back to keep them from revoluting against the powers that be. There's a reason one can easily link alcohol and drug usage to poverty; It takes the sting out of something he or she has yet to understand.
Never heard of lawyer grade cocaine then? :lol:

I understand what you mean though. The poorer someone is, the more likely they will want to escape reality in one form or another.

Religion is on the out, so the spectacle and escapism in other forms is ever stronger.

My question is, you say you are not against escapism, yet you say they hold the "working class" back. Do you say then that they use escapisms too much, and must use it in moderation? Or do you mean instead in use it minimally? Or even do you mean for it to, in Marxist terminlogy, no longer be neccessary and "wither away"?

FleasTheLemur

3rd October 2005, 20:29

Originally posted by Cthenthar+Oct 3 2005, 06:32 AM--> (Cthenthar @ Oct 3 2005, 06:32 AM)
[email protected] 3 2005, 05:30 AM
I hate to come out here and look like an arse, but the nature of drugs, alcohol and to some extent, pornography is holding the working class back to keep them from revoluting against the powers that be. There's a reason one can easily link alcohol and drug usage to poverty; It takes the sting out of something he or she has yet to understand.
Never heard of lawyer grade cocaine then? :lol:

I understand what you mean though. The poorer someone is, the more likely they will want to escape reality in one form or another.

Religion is on the out, so the spectacle and escapism in other forms is ever stronger.

My question is, you say you are not against escapism, yet you say they hold the "working class" back. Do you say then that they use escapisms too much, and must use it in moderation? Or do you mean instead in use it minimally? Or even do you mean for it to, in Marxist terminlogy, no longer be neccessary and "wither away"? [/b]
I hate to continue to debate in this thread as I established Another Thread (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=41123) on this same subject. However, I don't think I answered that question in my post.

I'm for the 'as small as possible' mindset. We must actively confront these tools of escapism, using them to keep us from going insane, then go back out and fight the good fight.

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Before I was the total communist I am today, I was a full-blown furry. I'd download the yiff, I'd Roleplay on Furcadia, debate on the nature of anthropomorphized cartoons, etc. In the latter stages, I was so deep into the ideas into the realm of furries, it was my grades at college and peroidically sending me into depression. Then, I discovered www.altruists.org. While not communists, it did expose me to the idea that something was wrong in the world and we must do our humanitarian doing to end all of the wrongs that exists. My process of self discovery slowly evolved... my views slowly evolved for libertarianism to communism. "How could one be in control when the market has control?" I found myself asking. "How could one be compassionate in a system that damn-near villifies compassion?"

My evolution continued onward and slowly I realized that escapism kept me from realizing this fact earlier. Because of this, I keep my fetish/sub-culture a little farther away from me than I did before. A person would masturbate two or three times a day now masturbates about one every two to three days. I don't think I can ever fully drop it; the problem of the worlds still exists and I can't fight them all off. But I am aware of my situation now and I do need to keep from falling into those same trappings as I did before.

Funny comment about the lawyer grade cocaine though. :lol:

anarchy

3rd October 2005, 23:24

Originally posted by Shiva Star+Oct 1 2005, 01:07 AM--> (Shiva Star @ Oct 1 2005, 01:07 AM)
[email protected] 1 2005, 12:29 AM
[COLOR=red][FONT=Impact] Shiva Star, just wondering, why do u detest capitalism so? Is it the economic system it's self, or do u find it confining?
I hate capitalism because it has killed billions of people, encourages prostitution, alcoholism, drug addiction and pornography, pushes "Gun Control", creates a social situation where rich white boys in BMWs exploit workers in China and India not to mention it creates monoculture (Ironically, they accuse us of the same thing).

EDIT: Yes, I do find capitalist culture confining. [/b]
thank you ver much for informing me, i had NO idea the severity, and hope I did not offend you in any way.