A few easy things you could do

[Karl Marx's Camel]

Don't buy CD's or computer games
Download them instead. Not only do you save money, but you are not giving your money away to large corporations.
Lately, I have downloaded two games, Starcraft with the expansion pack, and Rise of Nations. Starcraft was a little blurry the first 20 seconds or so, but now it is fine. Rise of Nations, I downloaded it, and only slight, very slight problems with the sound once in a while. I've also downloaded some very good movies. You don't have to rent or buy a movie anymore. CD's.. I maybe buy one CD a year. Why waste money on a CD, when you can get it for free? Imagine how much money you could save. It's a reason why corporations are so much against file sharing.


Editing Wikipedia
Wikipedia is a very popular site. When you are searching for something, you are likely to see a link to Wikipedia on the first page. So do what you can, and edit, at least once in a while.


These are just a few things you could do in front of your computer.

Anyone else?

[Hegemonicretribution]

Switching to linux, get it online.
Turn off lights in the other rooms while you are on the computer.
Is this just things to do whilst on your ass? Or in general without much effort?

[Karl Marx's Camel]

In general.

[novemba]

is the switch from windows to linux hard? what will happen to all my programs? can it run window executables? what about the internet and other compatability issues?

[enigma2517]

Its not too bad. You can run some Windows stuff through an emulator, but otherwise its a whole nother ball game. Still worth the time to learn though :)

You can always put linux on dual boot and look into it while using windows for everyday stuff.

[novemba]

yeah. i got too much shit to just start over. otherwise, i would.

[Patchy]

Buy plain t-shirts, apply own designs.

Cheaper, better, personal. See Rioters Bloc's (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=40202) guide for more info and a quick, easy to use tutorial.

Don't support businesses just to wear something that looks cool, but most of you probably don't anyway.

This is hella fun too :D

[Rockfan]

My comps to slow to download aye, it suxs but as an young artist in a country where it's hard to make a living off music i don't mind buying CD's and most of the stuff I buy are on alternative lables.

[Hegemonicretribution]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2005, 10:47 PM
is the switch from windows to linux hard? what will happen to all my programs? can it run window executables? what about the internet and other compatability issues?
Lindows (sp?) is supposed to be similar and quite compatable, although I don't know anyone with it.

[Karl Marx's Camel]

So, I thought of getting this thread back on top, in order to get more people active at Wikipedia.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

how bout scribbling ideological graffiti on skool tables n stuff?

[danny android]

yeah i like putting hammer and sickle symbols all over school desks.

[Defiance]

buy cd - take it home - rip it onto computer - take it back - get refund.

[Che NJ]

if you ride a bus write graffiti on the back of the seats with a permanent marker. The busses near me go all over the state in a day and I usually write something everytime I ride. If you really have guts take down an ad poster, flip it over, write something on the back and put it back up. Guerilla advertising! :ph34r:

[Livetrueordie]

come on now starcraft and expansion are 7$ together.
yeah i usually burn CDs and DVDs
If you actually want to save money DL photoshop and all the adobe progs and the Macromedia... CS Source is to difficult to dl i've ehard. which sux.


Lindows (Now Linspire) is to corporate, don't buy that shit. they make you buy programs free for other distros.
Get Ubuntu.
if you have 56k don't bother getting linux you won't be able to use the net on the linux.

[which doctor]

Contribute to boards like this
Learn and teach.

Try to limit your consumption of fast food
or better yet cook your own food

Dont use Internet Explorer
Try using Mozilla Firefox or Opera

Do outdoorsy type things
and see nature before capitalism exploits that too

[Karl Marx's Camel]

Dont use Internet Explorer
Try using Mozilla Firefox or Opera

How is that contributing? I am not opposed to the idea, I just don't understand why it could be to our advantage if more people started using Mozilla Firefox or Opera.
I use Mozilla Firefox myself. Much better than Internet Explorer. Never had the virus problem ever again when I switched to mozilla.


But regarding Wikipedia. Look at the site now. Instead of reading "Cuba's economy sucks and Castro is gay and an evil dictator who has crushed Cuba's economy", you will read (first lines in the Economy section):

Cuba's socialist economy is based on state and communal ownership with some small scale private enterprise existing. Since the fall of Cuba's many trading partners, the island has focused on urban communal farms. "Last year alone we produced 27 kilograms of vegetables per square metre. When we first started this farm three years ago it stood at 18 kilograms. And we expect this year's harvest to yield no less than 30 kilograms. That's an increase of around 30% year on year.", says Senora Hernandes, in charge of one of hundreds of small urban farms dotted around Havana. "A recent report by the American agency for sustainable farming, Food First, said annual production of fruit and vegetables is growing at 250% a year." [9]
And I think those things make a big difference, because almost everyone is blaming socialism ("communism") for stagnation of the economy. I made the contribution. And I think those things are important. Maybe I am an idealist, but I think those things can help. Although crazy, Wikipedia as a source has even been used by Western politicians to back up their proof, or used as a so-called "evidence". So I think it has some value.

[Karl Marx's Camel]

It has been reverted now, but I ask someone here to revert it back. I have used 3 reverts the past 24 hours, the maximum limit. In order to change back, go to "history", check my username, and it should say, on the same line, the date of the post (for example, my latest post; 19:09, 13 October 2005). Click on the date, you will see a new version of the page pop up. Press "edit the page", and you push the "submit" button.

[which doctor]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2005, 02:15 PM

Dont use Internet Explorer
Try using Mozilla Firefox or Opera

How is that contributing? I am not opposed to the idea, I just don't understand why it could be to our advantage if more people started using Mozilla Firefox or Opera.
I use Mozilla Firefox myself. Much better than Internet Explorer. Never had the virus problem ever again when I switched to mozilla.
Well a few things, one Mozilla is safer to use, it has fewer holes in it. And its contributing in the same way editing wikipedia is and switching to linux is.

[novemba]

start a study group or a learning group

post propaganda with stickers, ink, or posters and wheatpastes

help feed the homeless and help the poor all the while exposing why capitalism is PHUCKED UP

[codyvo]

Start a group with friends where you all chip in, it will cut down the costs on everything, share a computer,house, and anything else, it will help build community and save money.

[farleft]

Lindows is now called Linspire not sure why they changed name though I think it was something to do with microsoft sueing them because of the similarity of the name with windows.

[Chuck]

I feel fine about ripping CD's from artists that are signed to major labels; however, more independed artists, I will not steal from.

Education is by far the greatest tool you can use. Reform in society, where capitalism and consumerism are not the largest issues would be great.

And, of course, civil disobedience.

[rioters bloc]

i download music when trying to get a feel of an artist, or when trying to broaden my musical knowledge [go teh www.musicplasma.com]

if i like an artist i'll buy their album.

not necessarily to 'support' them even, its just a thing i have.

[Commie Rat]

Mozilla Firefox
easy to use, easy to intsall, and is 100% compaitable with Micsoft

and its FREEE

[rioters bloc]

i love mozilla

and i hate my work for not having it or letting me download it >=(

[farleft]

I use Mozilla Firefox as well, seems more reliable than IE6

[Commie Rat]

defiantly
IE is a peice of poo poo

[which doctor]

Anyone use Opera?

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Originally posted by danny [email protected] 9 2005, 08:15 PM
yeah i like putting hammer and sickle symbols all over school desks.
Dunno if you were being sarcastic, but I sure do enjoy that when I'm bored :)

[farleft]

Originally posted by RedFaction+Oct 23 2005, 06:04 PM--> (RedFaction @ Oct 23 2005, 06:04 PM)
danny [email protected] 9 2005, 08:15 PM
yeah i like putting hammer and sickle symbols all over school desks.
Dunno if you were being sarcastic, but I sure do enjoy that when I'm bored :) [/b]
I do that at my work place. Passes the time when im bored.

[danny android]

Originally posted by RedFaction+Oct 23 2005, 06:04 PM--> (RedFaction @ Oct 23 2005, 06:04 PM)
danny [email protected] 9 2005, 08:15 PM
yeah i like putting hammer and sickle symbols all over school desks.
Dunno if you were being sarcastic, but I sure do enjoy that when I'm bored :) [/b]
No I was serious. I do it all of the time when I get board. Or I'll write down the names of revolutionaries like, Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Marx just to inspire some interest in people.

[ack]

Originally posted by Fist of [email protected] 10 2005, 03:09 AM
Dont use Internet Explorer
Try using Mozilla Firefox or Opera

Or if you have a Mac, use Safari.

[Arca]

Try and use open software as much as possible, for example, MSN can be replaced with aMSN: http://amsn.sf.net/

Find other open-source software at sourceforge

http://www.sourceforge.net/
or http://www.sf.net/

[Livetrueordie]

Or if you have a Mac, use Safari.
Using firefox supports open source, Using safari just supports apple- the runner up to microsoft. plus steve jobs is a bigger deuche bag than bill gates

[farleft]

Thanks for the link, I am now using aMSN instead of MSN :lol:

[Arca]

Heh no problem. Sourceforge is awesome :D

[Red Leader]

I hardly ever rip CD's. personally i find it easier to just go to a cheap used record store and purchase decent artists for a couple of bucks. There is something about owning the actual album an artist put out as opposed to a couple of songs or a copy. For example, the songs on most classic albums, like Pink Floyd's The Wall, flow together as one big song, you cant get that by burning or downloading. As well, by buying from used record stores, you arn't paying full price, so you as a consumer arn't getting ripped of by record labels, but you also arent ripping off the musicians and workers who made the album.
I know it sounds like the same excuse that cappies use about deserving something for your work, but in this kind of society, ther isnt much you can do about. I would never buy an album from an artist or a group who only do it for the cash. I will continue to support music and musicians who love music, not the capitalization of it.

[Defiance]

I agree 100%

[FidelCastro]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2005, 06:42 PM
Don't buy CD's or computer games
Download them instead. Not only do you save money, but you are not giving your money away to large corporations.
Lately, I have downloaded two games, Starcraft with the expansion pack, and Rise of Nations. Starcraft was a little blurry the first 20 seconds or so, but now it is fine. Rise of Nations, I downloaded it, and only slight, very slight problems with the sound once in a while. I've also downloaded some very good movies. You don't have to rent or buy a movie anymore. CD's.. I maybe buy one CD a year. Why waste money on a CD, when you can get it for free? Imagine how much money you could save. It's a reason why corporations are so much against file sharing.


Editing Wikipedia
Wikipedia is a very popular site. When you are searching for something, you are likely to see a link to Wikipedia on the first page. So do what you can, and edit, at least once in a while.


These are just a few things you could do in front of your computer.

Anyone else?
Woah, We need to support these corporations so that they can give us more. What we should do, is to not pay for public books and music.

[Hiero]

Grow your hair really long.

[Wanted Man]

Hell yeah.

Travel, see the world, understand geography, history and culture to broaden your worldview.

[bunk]

travel the world using up untold amounts of resources and increasing the burden on our eco-system?

[Simotix]

Originally posted by Fist of [email protected] 10 2005, 02:30 AM
Dont use Internet Explorer
Try using Mozilla Firefox or Opera
While I agree IE is trash and I use Firefox, using Firefox causes Microsoft to put more work and money into IE. Would that be counter-productive?

[Organic Revolution]

i dont know how using firefox is revolutionary... am i missing something?

[Simotix]

Originally posted by Organic [email protected] 27 2005, 07:35 PM
i dont know how using firefox is revolutionary... am i missing something?
Some believe that using Firefox is "sticking it" to the "man"(Microsoft).

[BattleOfTheCowshed]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2005, 11:28 AM
travel the world using up untold amounts of resources and increasing the burden on our eco-system?
Well people can also travel in ways that dont waste that many resources, like say walking or backpacking, and making sure to do their best to respect the environment. I agree with those that advocate using Wikipedia, we could definitely use more comrades around Wiki to try and fight the anti-Left bias that exists on there. As far as everyday things people can do, fall in love, have an adventure, don't let "the man" get you down :)

"Your happiness is being bought. Steal it."

[TheLegionnaire]

I think the original topic of this pose is completely rediculous. I think people try to make a good purpose that are just easier. I highly doubt you download shit to take down big corporations, more because you dont want to pay for something, and you made up an excuse.

What the hell kind of music do you people listen to anyway? I dont listen to any music on a major record label; therefore no matter what i buy music wise, i'm helping out a little guy.

And fuck video games man, that shit eats your brain.

[Global_Justice]

i think the best thing we can all do is gain knowledge, and help others gain that knowledge. that will be far more useful.

also, about IE/firefox. i use IE because i haven't downloaded firefox, and although Bill Gates is a wanker i don't see how using IE gives him any money.

[Red Leader]

And fuck video games man, that shit eats your brain.

No shit, man. Pisses me off how people are all, "dont buy music, dude your selling out to corporate labels, music should be free for the masses, blah blah" when most who think like that are playing thier bloddy xboxes or sonys playing games that cost like fifty bucks a pop. Its retarded. Whose the real sellout? Games contribute nothing to your life, they waste your braincells and are just mor capitalist propaganda to get you buying more usless shit and teach you that killing and stealing and money money money is where its at. Video games are for tools

At least music makes you smarter, and doesnt waste your life. I would rather sell out to the music industry then the video game industry any day.

[HoorayForTheRedBlackandGreen]

"No shit, man. Pisses me off how people are all, "dont buy music, dude your selling out to corporate labels, music should be free for the masses, blah blah" when most who think like that are playing thier bloddy xboxes or sonys playing games that cost like fifty bucks a pop. Its retarded. Whose the real sellout? Games contribute nothing to your life, they waste your braincells and are just mor capitalist propaganda to get you buying more usless shit and teach you that killing and stealing and money money money is where its at. Video games are for tools"

There is music in video games. Also, there is strategy, science, story-telling, computer art, theatre, and a plethora of other things. Video games should not be played for simple fun, but appreciated as art. In MUDs (text-based MMORPGS), you use a combination of reading, strategy, and theatre constantly.

I agree most games aren't intellectualy stimulating. However games like RPGs, strategy games, and any games with good stories are definitely worthy of respect.

[dannie]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 11:20 PM
i think the best thing we can all do is gain knowledge, and help others gain that knowledge. that will be far more useful.

also, about IE/firefox. i use IE because i haven't downloaded firefox, and although Bill Gates is a wanker i don't see how using IE gives him any money.
i don't think using IE wil give bill gates more money directly but it will help his monopoly -position wich shouldn't be supported at all (tough at the moment you can't go without IE cause certain things won't work in other browsers, they don't handle w3c)

[beatlesjiliang]

Oh,every software that I am using is free !I never go to buy software .

[Red Leader]

Oh yeah, one good quick thing you can do to stick it to the man:
Key some rich guys fancy sports car. They will never know who did it, but will have to pay a lot of bucks to repair it.

[Simotix]

Originally posted by Red [email protected] 8 2005, 12:41 AM
Oh yeah, one good quick thing you can do to stick it to the man:
Key some rich guys fancy sports car. They will never know who did it, but will have to pay a lot of bucks to repair it.
Comprehension (part of insurance) covers that, and you know they have insurance.

[dannie]

you could translate indymedia articles to your own language

[1984]

Two things to add -

- If you buy a new CD, you will be feeding the record label's swine.
- If you download music, you will be feeding the telephone company's swine (if you are on dial-up) or whoever you paid for your broadband connection swine. Sure, if you happen to access the net for free (minority of cases), you'll still have to pay for the means to listen to the music - HD, i-pod's, or whatever.

Unfortunally, there aren't many ways to "get away with it" today.

Buying used CD's and LP's are a good alternative, but people tend NOT to sell good music. Actually LP's are wonderful these days - you can find some "preetee good" stuff really cheap.

I love music, and I won't stop buying it, used or new. Sure, I download, but mostly bootlegs. And it's not the same thing, you know... you can't tell the difference on headphones or desktop speakers, but when you burn a CDR and play it on the stereo...

Too bad there aren't public MUSIC libraries... any graduation student knows it's a blessing to have access to excellent text books for free. Imagine an analogous for music?

About video-games, well I played a LOT when I was younger. I still play EMULATED systems when I'm bored (it's free, so why such a big deal on this?). It didn't stop ME to continue to improve my intelectual activities, you know. It can hurt your social skills though...

An idea about the fancy sports car - if you drive and find one behind you, try do to the best NOT letting them pass you on the streets like paralleling your car (the older the better - it will make them more pissed off) with another one. It's not the fancy car that really makes me mad, it's the "I'm better than these skunks" attitude that really "begs" these pigs to be shot down.

[Aurora]

Originally posted by FidelCastro+Nov 27 2005, 03:49 AM--> (FidelCastro @ Nov 27 2005, 03:49 AM)
[email protected] 28 2005, 06:42 PM
Don't buy CD's or computer games
Download them instead. Not only do you save money, but you are not giving your money away to large corporations.
Lately, I have downloaded two games, Starcraft with the expansion pack, and Rise of Nations. Starcraft was a little blurry the first 20 seconds or so, but now it is fine. Rise of Nations, I downloaded it, and only slight, very slight problems with the sound once in a while. I've also downloaded some very good movies. You don't have to rent or buy a movie anymore. CD's.. I maybe buy one CD a year. Why waste money on a CD, when you can get it for free? Imagine how much money you could save. It's a reason why corporations are so much against file sharing.


Editing Wikipedia
Wikipedia is a very popular site. When you are searching for something, you are likely to see a link to Wikipedia on the first page. So do what you can, and edit, at least once in a while.


These are just a few things you could do in front of your computer.

Anyone else?
Woah, We need to support these corporations so that they can give us more. What we should do, is to not pay for public books and music. [/b]
Support the corporations so they can give us more???That sounds very cappie to me :huh:

[Zingu]

Use the Gaim client instead of AIM client, its better, and it can be used to IRC, AIM, ICQ, and MSN all in one. And is made by free developers.

[Red Leader]

about that whole buying music thing, here's a cool place to buy USED cd's:

The Beat Goes On (http://www.beatgoeson.com/)

[Vladislav]

Fuck buying shit I just get it off my commi friends who stole it.

[fpeppett]

If you really have time on your hands send all your junkmail back to the sender, as the postage is already paid for.

Usually add something to the post which will try and put them off sending you anything again ;)

Don't be enlsaved by cappie advertising!!!!

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Thanks for the aMSN! :)

If you're into online gaming, you can download SteamDown instead of Steam. It's a hacked version of the Valve client Steam, which has all available games accesses- for free! The official site was www.steamdown.org , but it's going to be closed soon and the download has been disabled.

[Vladislav]

Cracked Steam :) (http://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewforum.php?f=10)

You can get it from that site as well.^^^^

be sure to read how to use it.