Divestment from Israel

[Free Palestine]

"Students and teachers at British universities are working to revive the academic boycott against Israel. The British Committee for Universities of Palestine (BRICUP) recently began organizing an open forum of British university campuses in an effort to place the academic boycott against Israel. (http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/628610.html)"

It is time for us to do something similar here in the US.

[Free Palestine]

South Africa
(under Apartheid) until 1990

Israel
Now


-Whites forcibly remove Blacks from their land, pass laws making it illegal for non- whites to own certain lands

-Israel forcibly removes Palestinians from their land, passes laws making it illegal for non-Jews to own state land



-Blacks must carry ID cards at all times or face arrest and indefinite detention by white South African army

-Palestinians must carry ID cards at all times or face arrest and indefinite detention or deportation by Israeli army



-Blacks live in Bantustans surrounded by fences, they can not go in or come out without passing through ësecurityí checkpoints

-Palestinians live in refugee camps and towns under Israeli military occupation, they cannot go in or come out without pasing through Israeli ësecurityí checkpoints, there is currently a 20 foot wall being built up around them



-Black political prisoners tortured by South African authorities

-Palestinian political prisoners are tortured by Israeli authorities



-White-only beaches

-Israeli-only roads


Result:


-International community puts sanctions on South Arican regimes to pressure them to end Apartheid.

-Over $10,000,000 a day in U.S. aid goes to Israel to maintain its racist, illegal occupation.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by Free [email protected] 26 2005, 02:01 AM
"Students and teachers at British universities are working to revive the academic boycott against Israel. The British Committee for Universities of Palestine (BRICUP) recently began organizing an open forum of British university campuses in an effort to place the academic boycott against Israel. (http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/628610.html)"

It is time for us to do something similar here in the US.
This is already being done in the US. Al-Awda, the Palestinian Right to Return Coalition, is organizing divestment campaigns at many universities. We've already got several campaigns going on here in Wisconsin and I believe there are several more on East and West coasts. Do a google search for them.

[ChiComRed]

Wait a minute. You want to put a boycott on Israel? What about those no good motherfuckers who blow up innocent women and children on city busses? What happens to them? Or are they "freedom fighters" in your deluded mind, and therefore somehow noble?

Land for peace my ass. For as long as the PLO charter still calls for the destruction of the state of Israel, the so-called Palestinians are, and will remain the enemy of those who want to live free and happy lives. Now of course there are those Palestinians who also just want to live in peace with the Israelis, and that's fine and hunky dorey. I know a few. Nice folks. But those aren't the one's I'm talking about. Instead of boycotting Israel, how about putting sanctions on these terrorist assholes?

[eQuaLiTy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 08:43 PM
Instead of boycotting Israel, how about putting sanctions on these terrorist assholes?
That's gonna be a lot harder than it sounds.

[Intifada]

(ChiComRed)

What about those no good motherfuckers who blow up innocent women and children on city busses?

Compared to the daily suffering caused by the brutal Israeli occupation, those rare suicide bombings are nothing.

I tell you what, how about the West furnishes the Palestinians with the same kind of murderous weapons that they hand out to the Israelis without hesitation. Then there would be no need for those desperate Palestinians, who have nothing to live for, to blow themselves up.


Or are they "freedom fighters" in your deluded mind, and therefore somehow noble?


Those who target innocents are terrorists and not worthy of the name "freedom fighters", and nobody on this thread has stated otherwise.

One must, however, realise that the continuous killing and maiming, suffering and misery, caused by the illegal Israeli occupation of Palestinian land, is the root cause of the relatively new phenomenon of suicide bombings.

The first Palestinian suicide bombing was in 1994, after decades of oppression at the hands of their Zionist occupiers.

Do you think that the Palestinian people have not tried other ways of fighting the illegal occupation before resorting to such mindless violence?


Land for peace my ass. For as long as the PLO charter still calls for the destruction of the state of Israel, the so-called Palestinians are, and will remain the enemy of those who want to live free and happy lives.

The PLO recognised Israel's right to exist in 1988, and at the same time declared that they only wish for the remaining 22% of occupied historic Palestine to be given back to the Palestinian people.


Instead of boycotting Israel, how about putting sanctions on these terrorist assholes?

You are the deluded one.

[Free Palestine]

What about those no good motherfuckers who blow up innocent women and children on city busses?

The Israeli occupation started decades before pockets of the Palestinian resistance started using suicide bombings. They are used as merely an excuse to deny the Palestinians their right to an independant homeland, which Israel does not want. What's more, the reasons for suicide bombings are painfully obvious. Desperate acts of terror from the oppressed have always and always will thrive in enviroments like Israeli occupation. The occupation must end to ensure a better future for Palestinians, so they have something to look forward to other than an early death. In this way, justice for Israeli civilians murdered will come, as they too are victims of the occupation.


For as long as the PLO charter still calls for the destruction of the state of Israel, the so-called Palestinians are, and will remain the enemy of those who want to live free and happy lives.

Your ignorance really shows here. The mainstream PLO for a very long time recognized Israel's existence.

Let's see, 38 years of brutal occupation, an illegal apartheid wall, hundreds of thousands of illegal settlers on stolen lands, IDF shooting Palesintians at random, 800,000+ disposessed refugees, Shin Bet posing as terrorists to justify further military actions by Israel, and the Palestinians are the enemies of peace and happiness? :rolleyes:


Instead of boycotting Israel, how about putting sanctions on these terrorist assholes?

Divestment from Israel is about regular people using their right to choose what to buy in order to not cooperate with this evil Zionist entity and end oppression and apartheid in Palestine. It is a peaceful method of putting international pressure on a racist, apartheid state and parallels to the footsteps of the boycott against South African racist apartheid.

Lets make a comparison between South Africa and Israel/Palestine. For one, look at the historical colonialist foundation of the two conflicts. White settlers in South Africa, like Zionist pioneers, colonised a land already inhabited. As in South Africa, the settlers in Palestine expelled the indigenous population, some two-thirds of the Palestinians in the land that became Israel in 1948, took possession of their properties and legally segregated those who remained. If you have ever seen the humiliation of the Palestinians at checkpoints and roadblocks alone, suffering like South Africans when young white police officers prevented them from moving about, the parallels would be obvious to you.

That's a good start. I dont have enough time or desire to give you a history lesson. Also, from your comments it is clear you only listen to what you want to learn, to back up your probably already biased slant on the Middle East. You are wasting my time. Someone ban this Zionism-loving stooge.

[ChiComRed]

Unfortunately, don't have much time right now to respond to each and every criticism of my commentary.
You guys do make a point. But I have one question. How many of you have actually gone out, and bene in Israel, or the "occupied territories?"
I have been there, and seen both sides of this, more times than I can count.

And to you -FreePalestine-, Yes I am a hardcore zionist. As far as I knew, this was a forum for Communists. Why would being a Zionist get me banned?
And here, I thought the point of liberalism was acceptance of the opinions of others. Unless of course you distort it to mean "accept everyone's opinions, as long as they agree with me."

[RedAnarchist]

We are not liberals. Liberals accept Capitalism. We do not, as we see it's rotten core within - and wish to destroy it.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 02:43 PM
Land for peace my ass. For as long as the PLO charter still calls for the destruction of the state of Israel, the so-called Palestinians are, and will remain the enemy of those who want to live free and happy lives.
As long as there exists an ethnic state that excludes and occupies the Palestinian people, there can be no peace. There should not be a "Jewish" state, there should be a multiethnic state representing all the peoples of the region. Both sides want free and happy lives and that cannot be achieved in the current political situation.

[La Comédie Noire]

Ummm the guy who called Palestinians "No Good Terrorist Assholes" you do realize the Israel Army guns down Innocent people everyday and than have their murder's covered up for them by the American Media.

[Intifada]

But I have one question. How many of you have actually gone out, and bene in Israel, or the "occupied territories?"


I am hopefully going to visit the Occupied Palestinian Territories with the Scottish Palestine Solidarity Campaign, and I know that Free Palestine is a Palestinian himself, living in the US.

That no Palestinian supports the illegal Zionist occupation of their land, whilst many Israelis themselves are against the occupation, surely shows that the Palestinian struggle is a just one, worthy of the support of any person on this Earth who believes in equality and justice for all.

[viva le revolution]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 10:47 PM


And to you -FreePalestine-, Yes I am a hardcore zionist. As far as I knew, this was a forum for Communists. Why would being a Zionist get me banned?

Umm... Because Zionism is Israeli nationalism, meant to perpetuate the state of Israel which is founded on the principle of a land for Jews and ONLY jews. While excluding all other peop;e on religious grounds. and since we communists view religion as superflous and not as legitimate principle for any movement nor do we recognize religious arguiements that are superstition and cannot even be proven.
That's why i hate Zionism and view it from the same angle as islamic fundamentalism. You claim that the Palestinian terrorist should be destroyed because they are religious fundamentalists, how is Zionism any different, except that it is religious fundamentalism for Jews. Why should i support it or give you any weight in your arguements just because you merely state that you are a proud Zionist. That's the same as saying that you are islamic fundamentalist.

[viva le revolution]

I just love these little daddy's little sweethearts posting from the Hamptons! :rolleyes: