"George" clothing

[RedStarMilitia]

George clothing (this is pirmarily in the UK) has presented new adverts on tv. There are children advertising clothes and using marxism as a form of sales propaganda.
one girl is standing on the arm of Lenin, another girl is holding a hammer and sicle and a third is standing on a red star.
this is unacceptable and a complete mockery, using marxism to advertise means that they are exploiting marxism, using it to sell clothes thus marxism loses it's meaning.
i suggest that we protest in order to stop this humilation.

[h&s]

Isn't it Cherokee that has these adverts, not George?
I don't really care about them - I find them quite hilarious and I think that they should continue.
Besides, the hammer and sickle is an outdated symbol (I just use it here because I like the look of it), so people can do with it what they like!

[bluerev002]

Originally posted by h&[email protected] 22 2005, 02:15 PM
Isn't it Cherokee that has these adverts, not George?
I don't really care about them - I find them quite hilarious and I think that they should continue.
Besides, the hammer and sickle is an outdated symbol (I just use it here because I like the look of it), so people can do with it what they like!
How can you sport the Hammer and Sickle and have no Idea as to what it symbolizes? Putting women around it takes away its meaning. It's the equivilant to people wearing those Che shirts that make him look like a monkey. It is a symbol for something and sporting a shirt with such an image of women around Lennon takes away the meaning. It's almost the same as wearing those shirts that make fun of George Bush. Both make fun of the subject. It's a good form of protest against Bush, and it is a good form of protest against Communism.

Hence, make more shirts that make fun of Bush
Dont support shirts that make fun of Communism, Che, Lennon, Marx, Castro, etc.

[bcbm]

Its spelled Lenin and all ideas and idols should be ridiculed and challenged as often as possible.

[bluerev002]

Originally posted by black banner black [email protected] 22 2005, 05:03 PM
Its spelled Lenin and all ideas and idols should be ridiculed and challenged as often as possible.
elaborate on your point if you will, please.

[h&s]

bluerev002:
The hammer and Sickle symbolizes nothing good anymore. In its day it represented the unique nature of the Russian Revolution, and was specific to that.
Once the revolution was taken over and the hammer and sickle was used to represent to oppression of millions, it lost any value it ever had.


It's the equivilant to people wearing those Che shirts that make him look like a monkey.
Which I like as I completly disagree with his theory! :P


and it is a good form of protest against Communism.
These things (apart from Lenin, but his statues do count) do not represent communism, so they are not protesting against it.

[Dark Exodus]

They are clearly not political at all, just a 'style' of clothing that has been around for ages, popular among young people.

Just try and dissacociate youeself from it, for example, don't wear the clothes in question. You shoulden't need clothing to remind yourself or others of your alignment anyway.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by bluerev002+Sep 22 2005, 11:51 PM--> (bluerev002 @ Sep 22 2005, 11:51 PM)
black banner black [email protected] 22 2005, 05:03 PM
Its spelled Lenin and all ideas and idols should be ridiculed and challenged as often as possible.
elaborate on your point if you will, please. [/b]
We need to be continually challenging our own ideas and others, as well as those of so-called idols. Otherwise we became stagnant at best and crippingly dogmatic at worst. Ridicule should also be used, just to keep everyone on their toes.

[bolshevik butcher]

Those adverts are so bad they make me laugh. Yeh, its bad, but i dont think its the alst or first time this has happened.

[citizen_snips]

"all ideas and idols should be ridiculed and challenged as often as possible."

Alright, lets all mock that idiot Proudhon then! :P

Everyone has someone from history they think has at the very least been on the right side, though I do agree the motives of anyone in power should be questioned.

Back on the subject: I also think its really funny that Cherokee, the clothing of TESCOS no less, should be using the imagery they do to advertise clothes. It doesn't make me angry or upset in the slightest, despite the blatant hypocrisy. The words "bourgeoisie" and "own gravedigger" spring to mind...

[bcbm]

Alright, lets all mock that idiot Proudhon then!

I've no problem with people mocking sexists with ugly haircuts. :lol:

[violencia.Proletariat]

they sell sweaters in target ( a store like walmart but a bit more expensive and what they would say "classier") here in america with the hammer and sickle (well its a hammer and sickle but they are making an x, they are one on top of the other) and cccp on them. :lol:

[Hegemonicretribution]

It may be annoying, but so is misuse of term communsm itself, will it make it stop by simply complaining? Probably not. If people want to wear this counter-culture "uniform" then so be it, you don't have to have anything more to do with a few disillusioned teenagers, than you do with Pol Pot.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I don't really mind at all, I think it's rather cool actually. I've got a black T-shirt with a hammer & sickle on it with "Republic of Mancunia" across the symbol in a Russian style font. (Yes I am a Man U fan, I have to be)

[workersunity]

Originally posted by h&[email protected] 22 2005, 04:15 PM
Isn't it Cherokee that has these adverts, not George?
I don't really care about them - I find them quite hilarious and I think that they should continue.
Besides, the hammer and sickle is an outdated symbol (I just use it here because I like the look of it), so people can do with it what they like!
your a disgrace to communism

[ZACKist]

The Hammer and Sickle still is a rather neat symbol. I don't think just because of a repressive country used it to logo-ise its "revolution" --a revolution against the revolution, perhaps-- but rather that it still means a lot to some. I still believe it's a symbol of the peasentry and proletariat.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2005, 03:10 PM
they sell sweaters in target ( a store like walmart but a bit more expensive and what they would say "classier") here in america with the hammer and sickle (well its a hammer and sickle but they are making an x, they are one on top of the other) and cccp on them. :lol:
I "acquired" one of those. ;)

[mo7amEd]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2005, 05:45 PM
I don't really mind at all, I think it's rather cool actually. I've got a black T-shirt with a hammer & sickle on it with "Republic of Mancunia" across the symbol in a Russian style font. (Yes I am a Man U fan, I have to be)
the only bad thing i find in this thread is that NoXion is a ManU fan... did you enjoy the defeat against blackburn today? :P

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Originally posted by mo7amEd+Sep 24 2005, 10:56 PM--> (mo7amEd @ Sep 24 2005, 10:56 PM)
[email protected] 24 2005, 05:45 PM
I don't really mind at all, I think it's rather cool actually. I've got a black T-shirt with a hammer & sickle on it with "Republic of Mancunia" across the symbol in a Russian style font. (Yes I am a Man U fan, I have to be)
the only bad thing i find in this thread is that NoXion is a ManU fan... did you enjoy the defeat against blackburn today? :P [/b]
Up yours. I had to comfort my girlfriend today (THAT'S why I have to be a Man U fan)

[mo7amEd]

Originally posted by NoXion+Sep 24 2005, 11:29 PM--> (NoXion @ Sep 24 2005, 11:29 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2005, 10:56 PM

[email protected] 24 2005, 05:45 PM
I don't really mind at all, I think it's rather cool actually. I've got a black T-shirt with a hammer & sickle on it with "Republic of Mancunia" across the symbol in a Russian style font. (Yes I am a Man U fan, I have to be)
the only bad thing i find in this thread is that NoXion is a ManU fan... did you enjoy the defeat against blackburn today? :P
Up yours. I had to comfort my girlfriend today (THAT'S why I have to be a Man U fan) [/b]
haha okay...

anyhow, everybody knows that AC Milan is the best team in the world

[bolshevik butcher]

Yeh that might well be true. But still go hibs! Support your local team!

[h&s]

Originally posted by workersunity+Sep 24 2005, 06:39 PM--> (workersunity @ Sep 24 2005, 06:39 PM)
h&[email protected] 22 2005, 04:15 PM
Isn't it Cherokee that has these adverts, not George?
I don't really care about them - I find them quite hilarious and I think that they should continue.
Besides, the hammer and sickle is an outdated symbol (I just use it here because I like the look of it), so people can do with it what they like!
your a disgrace to communism [/b]
Fuck off!
Who the fuck are you to tell me that when I'm just slagging off an out-dated symbol? If you think that a little symbol actually means so much to communism that it is a disgrace to go against it, you have serious problems with your politics.